I5 750 build - RAM & Mobo unsure

Hi guys, this is my build at the moment. I've already purchased the case (CM Storm Scout), OS (Win7-64), DVD Drive (Lite-On w/lightscribe) & the PSU (Corsair 650HX). I need help choosing the Mobo & RAM.


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Some parts already purchased, so now, or in the next week or so.

BUDGET RANGE: $1,000-$1,200 with a monitor

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming mostly.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: currently a keyboard, mouse, & speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, ZIpZoomfly, Amazon, Tiger, etc. they're all good

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Boston - USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: i5 750, a 23-24" LCD (must have an HDMI port), either an HD 5770 (with a 2nd card down the road) or a budget busting HD 5850. I am open to all else.


OVERCLOCKING: Most likely yes. CROSSFIRE if I go with the 5770.

MONITOR RESOLUTION:1920x1080 or 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: As I said above, I've already purchased some of the parts. Here is what I purchased so far.

CPU: Intel i5 750 @ Microcenter $149.99

PSU: Corsair 650HX

Case: CM Storm Scout

OS: Windows 7 64-bit

DVD: Lite-ON DVD burner with Lightscribe

Hard Drive: Samsung F3


Here is what I need:

Motherboard: I'm leaning toward the Asrock Extreme p55 as it's $140, and can crossfire at x8. It's gotten terrific reviews so far.

Asrock Extreme P55 - $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157172

I'm also considering these 3 pricier boards:


EVGA P55 SLI 132-LF-E655-KR - $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188055

GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P - $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128400

ASUS P7P55D-E Pro - $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131621


RAM: I'm clueless, please help! There are so many options my mind is numb.


Monitor:

Acer 23" - $199
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179

ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI - $179
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI - $189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


Graphics:

HD 5770 or an HD 5850, depending on my budget. Most likely a single 5770 for now, with a second later.


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Comments: Please let me know what you guys think. My main concern at the moment, or the area where I'm most confused, is with the RAM and Mobo.

The RAM is confusing because there are so many different choices on Newegg. They all look the same to me, and in every thread someone recommends a different model RipJaw, or Corsair. Someone mentioned the new ECO Ram too. This will be my first ever build, so talk to me like I'm a newb. I know the RAM can't be higher than 1.65v, and some people say that the difference in performance between the different types suggested is minimal anyway. I could really use this to be explained to me like I'm a 4 year old. Again, all advice is appreciated!

Thanks in advance! :hello:

Hope I didn't forget anything.
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  1. I personally went for the P55-UD4P just because I like Gigabyte so much. I don't have any experience with Asrock though, so I can't really comment on them. That board looks nice on first glance.

    Alright, I'll try to help on the ram choice:

    Requirements:
    Dual Channel DDR3 1.65V or less.

    Preferences:
    CL7
    1333MHz if not OCing processor
    1600MHz if OCing processor
    1.5V or less.

    Recently, GSkill has put out some excellent and cheap ram, so I see no reason why not to get ram with 7-7-7-21 or the like latency. After that, at stock processor clocks the ram runs at 1333MHz. If you buy 1600MHz ram, it will merely downclock to 1333MHz (so buying too fast is fine). If OCing, 1600MHz will give you a little more performance. And finally, less voltage = less heat and possibly longer life. If certainly can't hurt, so go as low as you can find/afford on voltage.
  2. Was looking at deals while surfing and came across this "advertised in the the NY times"
    ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 ATX Xtreme 144.00
    Free ups shipping
    J + R------Thats about the cheapest I've seen a 2x 16.0 board its 170.00 at newegg
    http://www.jr.com/asus/pe/ASU_P7P55D/
  3. real world said:
    Hi guys, this is my build at the moment. I've already purchased the case (CM Storm Scout), OS (Win7-64), DVD Drive (Lite-On w/lightscribe) & the PSU (Corsair 650HX). I need help choosing the Mobo & RAM.


    APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Some parts already purchased, so now, or in the next week or so.

    BUDGET RANGE: $1,000-$1,200 with a monitor

    SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming mostly.

    PARTS NOT REQUIRED: currently a keyboard, mouse, & speakers

    PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, ZIpZoomfly, Amazon, Tiger, etc. they're all good

    COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Boston - USA

    PARTS PREFERENCES: i5 750, a 23-24" LCD (must have an HDMI port), either an HD 5770 (with a 2nd card down the road) or a budget busting HD 5850. I am open to all else.


    OVERCLOCKING: Most likely yes. CROSSFIRE if I go with the 5770.

    MONITOR RESOLUTION:1920x1080 or 1920x1200

    ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: As I said above, I've already purchased some of the parts. Here is what I purchased so far.

    CPU: Intel i5 750 @ Microcenter $149.99

    PSU: Corsair 650HX

    Case: CM Storm Scout

    OS: Windows 7 64-bit

    DVD: Lite-ON DVD burner with Lightscribe

    Hard Drive: Samsung F3


    Here is what I need:

    Motherboard: I'm leaning toward the Asrock Extreme p55 as it's $140, and can crossfire at x8. It's gotten terrific reviews so far.

    Asrock Extreme P55 - $139.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157172

    I'm also considering these 3 pricier boards:


    EVGA P55 SLI 132-LF-E655-KR - $179.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188055

    GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P - $169.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128400

    ASUS P7P55D-E Pro - $189.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131621


    RAM: I'm clueless, please help! There are so many options my mind is numb.


    Monitor:

    Acer 23" - $199
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009179

    ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI - $179
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

    ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI - $189
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


    Graphics:

    HD 5770 or an HD 5850, depending on my budget. Most likely a single 5770 for now, with a second later.


    ----------------------------------------

    Comments: Please let me know what you guys think. My main concern at the moment, or the area where I'm most confused, is with the RAM and Mobo.

    The RAM is confusing because there are so many different choices on Newegg. They all look the same to me, and in every thread someone recommends a different model RipJaw, or Corsair. Someone mentioned the new ECO Ram too. This will be my first ever build, so talk to me like I'm a newb. I know the RAM can't be higher than 1.65v, and some people say that the difference in performance between the different types suggested is minimal anyway. I could really use this to be explained to me like I'm a 4 year old. Again, all advice is appreciated!

    Thanks in advance! :hello:

    Hope I didn't forget anything.


    This is excellent ram for an i5 build:


    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318
    $98 -Free Shipping
  4. MothMusic said:
    This is excellent ram for an i5 build:

    http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/20-231-318-TS?$S180W$
    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318
    $98 -Free Shipping



    Thanks for the replies everyone. I've seen the ECO series recommended elsewhere. Anyone else think that it would be a good choice?
  5. I second, though I have not personally used it, it looks very promising. I am still waiting to hear back from users to see if it is really as good as claimed (it is very new).
  6. notty22 said:
    Was looking at deals while surfing and came across this "advertised in the the NY times"
    ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 ATX Xtreme 144.00
    Free ups shipping
    J + R------Thats about the cheapest I've seen a 2x 16.0 board its 170.00 at newegg
    http://www.jr.com/asus/pe/ASU_P7P55D/


    ^what are you talking about..it's only x16 x4..
    proof from ur link "Expansion Slots: 2 PCIe X16 slots support (Single graphic card @ X16 (blue), dual graphic card @ X16 and X4 (blue and block)); 1 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (x4 mode), 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x1, 2 PCI (3.3V/5V) "

    actually it's 149.99 on newegg.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131404&cm_re=ASUS_P7P55D-_-13-131-404-_-Product
  7. real world said:
    Thanks for the replies everyone. I've seen the ECO series recommended elsewhere. Anyone else think that it would be a good choice?


    It's cheap and it's at a good speed and have low latencies, go for it.
  8. Hi guys, I'm back again. I've waited for the after Christmas sales to buy the remaining parts I need, and as a result I've decided to buy the ASUS P7P55D EVO Motherboard since it's on sale with a $40 off promo.

    Any comments on this choice before I buy? Good choice, bad choice? I was leaning toward the Asrock as it was a better value at $140, but this looks too good to pass up.

    ASUS P7P55D EVO Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131407&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL122609&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL122609-_-MotherboardsIntel-_-LC1D-_-13131407

    I've decided on this Graphics card as well. The HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit. Good, bad? It's $10 off with a promo.

    HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161317&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL122609&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL122609-_-VideoCards-_-LC6B-_-14161317


    That leaves me with the RAM. Grrr.... I'm confused on this one. These are some of the choices I've narrowed it down to.

    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $104.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1687&Manufactory=11776&Manufactory=1183&Manufactory=1666&Manufactory=1504&Manufactory=1459&Manufactory=1550&Manufactory=1455&Manufactory=2204&Manufactory=8476&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A29233&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A15794&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29371&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49137&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50618&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29232&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A42331&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49219&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A44350&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50763&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29464&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A45657&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29402

    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $94.99


    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $95.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

    CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $89.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260

    Then there are a number of Ripjaws frm Gskill that rate extremely high. Does anyone recommend a specific RAM that goes well with this Mobo, and set up? Thanks in advance everyone!

    Here is a Power Search of the DDR3 /1600 RAM from Newegg.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1687&Manufactory=11776&Manufactory=1183&Manufactory=1666&Manufactory=1504&Manufactory=1459&Manufactory=1550&Manufactory=1455&Manufactory=2204&Manufactory=8476&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A29233&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A15794&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29371&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49137&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50618&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29232&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A42331&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49219&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A44350&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50763&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29464&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A45657&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29402
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  10. real world said:
    Hi guys, I'm back again. I've waited for the after Christmas sales to buy the remaining parts I need, and as a result I've decided to buy the ASUS P7P55D EVO Motherboard since it's on sale with a $40 off promo.

    Any comments on this choice before I buy? Good choice, bad choice? I was leaning toward the Asrock as it was a better value at $140, but this looks too good to pass up.

    ASUS P7P55D EVO Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131407&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL122609&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL122609-_-MotherboardsIntel-_-LC1D-_-13131407

    I've decided on this Graphics card as well. The HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit. Good, bad? It's $10 off with a promo.

    HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161317&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL122609&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL122609-_-VideoCards-_-LC6B-_-14161317


    That leaves me with the RAM. Grrr.... I'm confused on this one. These are some of the choices I've narrowed it down to.

    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $104.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1687&Manufactory=11776&Manufactory=1183&Manufactory=1666&Manufactory=1504&Manufactory=1459&Manufactory=1550&Manufactory=1455&Manufactory=2204&Manufactory=8476&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A29233&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A15794&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29371&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49137&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50618&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29232&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A42331&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49219&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A44350&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50763&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29464&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A45657&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29402

    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $94.99


    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $95.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

    CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $89.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260

    Then there are a number of Ripjaws frm Gskill that rate extremely high. Does anyone recommend a specific RAM that goes well with this Mobo, and set up? Thanks in advance everyone!

    Here is a Power Search of the DDR3 /1600 RAM from Newegg.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1687&Manufactory=11776&Manufactory=1183&Manufactory=1666&Manufactory=1504&Manufactory=1459&Manufactory=1550&Manufactory=1455&Manufactory=2204&Manufactory=8476&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A29233&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A15794&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29371&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49137&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50618&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29232&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A42331&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49219&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A44350&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50763&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29464&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A45657&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29402


    This MSi mobo supports two pci 2.0 slots running at 16x and is cheaper, this 5770 is cheaper, and this ram has a lat of 7 which is pretty good for DDR3 ram.

    $S180W$
    SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102864&cm_re=5770-_-14-102-864-_-Product
    $155 -Free Shipping


    MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    HARD|OCP Gold Editor’s Choice Award
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130239
    $160 -Free Shipping


    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275
    $92 -Free Shipping
  11. Here's where you can read further about that ASUS P7P55D EVO Motherboard

    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/asus_p7p55d_evo_p55_motherboard_-_performance_revealed/12

    Enter this promo code further at the Egg and get another 15 off bringing it down to $154.99 with free shipping. This clenched the deal for me and I just bought one.

    Promo Code: EMCMNNT64
  12. MothMusic said:
    This MSi mobo supports two pci 2.0 slots running at 16x and is cheaper, this 5770 is cheaper, and this ram has a lat of 7 which is pretty good for DDR3 ram.

    http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-102-864-TS?$S180W$$S180W$
    SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102864&cm_re=5770-_-14-102-864-_-Product
    $155 -Free Shipping

    http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-130-239-Z09?$S180W$
    MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    HARD|OCP Gold Editor’s Choice Award
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130239
    $160 -Free Shipping

    http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/20-231-275-TS?$S180W$
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275
    $92 -Free Shipping



    Moth, thanks for the advice. I already pulled the trigger on the ASUS Evo Mobo. At $154 I just couldn't resist. I have two questions about your post.

    1) Is the SAPPHIRE 5770 better than the HIS 5770? I've always wondered if one manufacturer is better than the other when it comes to similar model cards. Anyone have an opinion here?

    2) If I plan on OC'ing, doesn't the RAM need to be 1600, as opposed to 1333?


    Thanks in advance.
  13. bleu said:
    Here's where you can read further about that ASUS P7P55D EVO Motherboard

    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/asus_p7p55d_evo_p55_motherboard_-_performance_revealed/12

    Enter this promo code further at the Egg and get another 15 off bringing it down to $154.99 with free shipping. This clenched the deal for me and I just bought one.

    Promo Code: EMCMNNT64


    Hey Bleu, I ordered mine last night. The $40 off with the promo sealed it for me too. Too good a board to pass up at that price. What RAM & GPU are you using with this MOBO? I've got everything except my RAM, GPU, and a monitor. The monitor is the least important at this point, and the GPU is going to be a 5770.
  14. Hey RW, I'm still undecided on the ram. I'm very much like you in the respect of buying the right components and researching. I'm still taking my time because the Spinpoint HD's aren't due until tomorrow.

    I chose an expensive GPU because I not only want it to last, but I've never had a decent card before.

    I ended up ordering:

    Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 1GB PCIe DDR5 w/HDMI & DVI

    Had to grab it from TigerDirect because the Egg ran out moments before I was lined up for the purchase.

    Presently I'm still deciding on RAM and a Tower but I still need to order a HD, CPU Cooler and a DVD burner.

    I'm waffling on the Cool Master Storm Sniper or the CM HAF 922.

    I'm not trying to take over this thread but any help in these areas would be genuinely appreciated.
  15. Hey dude, no way, post away. The more questions people ask in here, the better off we all are.

    I did most of my buying on Black Friday. I actually had set myself up to build an i7 920, until one of my huge combo orders on Newegg was rejected by my CC company, cuz they thought it was fraud. I didn't find out until after the fact, and lost the order. In the end it worked out, cuz I opted for the cheaper i5 instead. On BF, I bought my case (CM Storm Scout), OS (Win7 64-bit), Drive (Lite-on w/Lightscribe), and PSU (Corsair 650HX). There were some amazing deals on BF too. The case cost me $49.99 in the end. I had purchased the Antec 902 (maybe 900, I can't remember, blue LEDS on the one I bought) for $60, but it was in that rejected sale so I lost out on the rebate savings, and opted for the Storm Scout instead. I'm stoked about the ASUS Mobo coming down in price though. By all accounts, it's a terrific board. I had settled on buying the Asrock Extreme for $139 if nothing better went on sale after Christmas, which rates real well, but I'm happier I got the EVO.

    The RAM is where I'm having a confusing time. I might go with the 1600 Gskill ECO RAM, as a lot of people seem to recommend it. There are so many options it's confusing. I want something stable, cuz I'm not really looking to play with timings too much. I'm ok with spending a few bucks more for something a little more stable.

    ECO
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231319&cm_re=ECO_Ram-_-20-231-319-_-Product


    I need a HD as well. I want the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB, but it's sold out just about everywhere. I might opt for the 500GB version instead, and maybe add a second drive later on. Supposedly the Sammy's are the fastest drive going, or right at the top.

    I was set on buying a 5850 myself until the price went from $260, to up over $310. Now I'm going to go with a single 5770, with the idea of Crossfiring a second 5770 down the road. It saves me $150+ dollars that way, and according to most of the benchmarks, or articles I've read, the 5770 will do me good, while two would be superb. By the time I outlast two 5770's, it'll probably be time for a new rig altogether I bet. Still, that 5850 is a beast. Everyone that has one, seems to rave about it.
  16. real world said:
    Moth, thanks for the advice. I already pulled the trigger on the ASUS Evo Mobo. At $154 I just couldn't resist. I have two questions about your post.

    1) Is the SAPPHIRE 5770 better than the HIS 5770? I've always wondered if one manufacturer is better than the other when it comes to similar model cards. Anyone have an opinion here?

    2) If I plan on OC'ing, doesn't the RAM need to be 1600, as opposed to 1333?


    Thanks in advance.


    Get the cheapest ram you can with a lat of 7. The Eco ram uses less volts so it gives you more headroom to overclock. But either way, overclocking your ram will not make any noticeable impact on system performance. As you can see, "slow" ram makes no significant difference in games at all. In fact, you can see here that even $100+ 1600 ram is beaten by lower clocked, cheaper ram (1333). So don't worry about memory. Just make sure its compatiable with your mobo and pop it in.


    This ram is good for OC, as you have more headroom because its low voltage:

    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318
    $98 -Free Shipping

    This ram will give the same performance as the eco ram if you don't OC, but its cheaper:

    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275
    $92 -Free Shipping
  17. Well I'm spent, trying to figure out the best low latency stable RAM for the Asus P7P55D EVO board. Wherever I look I see some people burnt by flacky RAM.

    Anyone mind helping me pick here would be appreciated. I'm only assuming it's best to look for these timings (CL 7-7-7-21-2N ). If I'm wrong please let me know. Here's where I am right now

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=244

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=223

    A few dollars here or there isn't the importance. Finding RAM that doesn't need an antacid is ;)

    Thanks in advance.
  18. bleu said:
    Well I'm spent, trying to figure out the best low latency stable RAM for the Asus P7P55D EVO board. Wherever I look I see some people burnt by flacky RAM.

    Anyone mind helping me pick here would be appreciated. I'm only assuming it's best to look for these timings (CL 7-7-7-21-2N ). If I'm wrong please let me know. Here's where I am right now

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=244

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=223

    A few dollars here or there isn't the importance. Finding RAM that doesn't need an antacid is ;)

    Thanks in advance.


    Either ram is fine. If your talking about people on Newegg complaining about ram, ignore it. Newegg reviews are useless, because the people who comment are not professionals, and anyone can say anything. Just get the Eco ram, as it has a low voltage which gives you more headroom when OC.
  19. MothMusic said:
    Either ram is fine. If your talking about people on Newegg complaining about ram, ignore it. Newegg reviews are useless, because the people who comment are not professionals, and anyone can say anything. Just get the Eco ram, as it has a low voltage which gives you more headroom when OC.


    Thanks Moth...the ECO looked promising but there wasn't one single review on the Egg....
  20. bleu said:
    Thanks Moth...the ECO looked promising but there wasn't one single review on the Egg....


    Like I said, don't worry about customer reviews. A lot of people say their ram was DOA, but what really happened was that they transmitted static electricity to the ram when they touched it, damaging the ram/mobo. Like I said, Newegg reviews are not made by professionals.
  21. bleu said:
    Well I'm spent, trying to figure out the best low latency stable RAM for the Asus P7P55D EVO board. Wherever I look I see some people burnt by flacky RAM.

    Anyone mind helping me pick here would be appreciated. I'm only assuming it's best to look for these timings (CL 7-7-7-21-2N ). If I'm wrong please let me know. Here's where I am right now

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=244

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=223

    A few dollars here or there isn't the importance. Finding RAM that doesn't need an antacid is ;)

    Thanks in advance.



    I just noticed that the timing listed at Newegg, are different than those for this RAM at the Gskills site. Am I missing something, or is Newegg wrong? I would guess that the manufacturers site would be more accurate.

    Scroll down and see the ECO series timings.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=147&Description=&Type=&N=2010170147&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1687&Manufactory=11776&Manufactory=1183&Manufactory=1666&Manufactory=1504&Manufactory=1459&Manufactory=1550&Manufactory=1455&Manufactory=2204&Manufactory=8476&PropertyCodeValue=521%3A29233&PropertyCodeValue=523%3A15794&PropertyCodeValue=524%3A29371&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49137&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50618&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29232&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A42331&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A49219&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A44350&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A50763&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29464&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A45657&PropertyCodeValue=2599%3A29402
  22. real world said:


    The ram on Gskill.com and Newegg are exactly the same:


    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318&Tpk=F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO

    Model
    Brand G.SKILL
    Series ECO Series
    Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO
    Type 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
    Tech Spec
    Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
    Speed DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
    Cas Latency 7
    Timing 7-7-7-21-2N
    Voltage 1.35V
    ECC No
    Buffered/Registered Unbuffered
    Multi-channel Kit Dual Channel Kit
    Heat Spreader Yes
    Manufacturer Warranty
    Parts Lifetime limited
    Labor Lifetime limited

    =============================


    [ ECO ] F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO
    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=244
    Main Board intel
    System Desktop
    System Type DDR3
    M/B Chipset
    Intel P55
    CAS Latency 7-7-7-21-2N
    Capacity 4GB (2GBx2)
    Speed DDR3-1333 (PC3 10666)
    Test Voltage 1.35 Volts
    PCB
    Registered/Unbuffered Unbuffered
    Error Checking Non-ECC
    Type 240-pin DIMM
    Warranty Lifetime
  23. My bad, I was looking at these. I didn't realize they had so many different versions of the ECO series RAM.

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?c1=1&c2=3&c3=10
  24. real world said:
    My bad, I was looking at these. I didn't realize they had so many different versions of the ECO series RAM.

    http://www.gskill.com/products.php?c1=1&c2=3&c3=10


    Which one? This is just a list of all of there 12000 ram. You need to link to a specific set of ram.
  25. Hi everyone, I'm back again. I'm putting the final touches on my i5/HD 5850 gaming build, and am stuck on my choice for monitor. There are so many to choose from, that it's given me a headache. I just don't want to make a poor choice. Anyhow, I play a lot of FPS games, and I don't want to waste the $300+ investment toward the Radeon 5850 card. At the same time, my budget is stretched a little by my decision to go with a Radeon HD 5850 over the $160 Radeon HD 5770.

    I'd like a 24" display, but would settle for a 23" if it made the most sense. I'd like the monitor to have HDMI hook-up, and it should be Full 1080p HD. Res should be x 1080 or x 1200.

    So far I've narrowed it down to these choices. Which one would you choose, or is there something else you'd recommend? The Dell monitor is only on sale until 1/6/10 (tomorrow). Is it a good buy for gaming? I've read that it's tough to tell the difference between 2ms & 5ms, so please correct me if that's wrong.

    Dell ST2410 24” Full HD Widescreen Monitor - $179.99
    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-1070&dgc=CJ&cid=44075&lid=1318258#reviews


    ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - $199.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


    SAMSUNG 2494HM Glossy Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $239.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001337
  26. real world said:
    Hi everyone, I'm back again. I'm putting the final touches on my i5/HD 5850 gaming build, and am stuck on my choice for monitor. There are so many to choose from, that it's given me a headache. I just don't want to make a poor choice. Anyhow, I play a lot of FPS games, and I don't want to waste the $300+ investment toward the Radeon 5850 card. At the same time, my budget is stretched a little by my decision to go with a Radeon HD 5850 over the $160 Radeon HD 5770.

    I'd like a 24" display, but would settle for a 23" if it made the most sense. I'd like the monitor to have HDMI hook-up, and it should be Full 1080p HD. Res should be x 1080 or x 1200.

    So far I've narrowed it down to these choices. Which one would you choose, or is there something else you'd recommend? The Dell monitor is only on sale until 1/6/10 (tomorrow). Is it a good buy for gaming? I've read that it's tough to tell the difference between 2ms & 5ms, so please correct me if that's wrong.

    Dell ST2410 24” Full HD Widescreen Monitor - $179.99
    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-1070&dgc=CJ&cid=44075&lid=1318258#reviews


    ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - $199.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052


    SAMSUNG 2494HM Glossy Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $239.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001337


    There isn't any significant difference between the monitors features except their screen size and their price tag. The Dell would be a good choice as you get a 24" screen, 50,000 : 1 contrast ratio, hdmi, only for $180. Thats a pretty good deal for a good monitor, so I would recommend the Dell, but its your choice though.
  27. Thanks Moth. I was leaning toward that Dell too. It seems like a solid buy. Is it true that the Dell monitors are actually built by Samsung?


    Hey, check out this cool 2 monitor set up this dude has with his HD 5770.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-gfoeWfxOc&feature=fvw
  28. I just wanted to thank everyone for their help over the last few months. Be it by replying directly to a thread, or question I had, or by answering someone else's. I've been enjoying my i5 system for a month or so now, and it's kick ass. This was my first ever build, and without the things I learned at this website, in this forum, I never would have been able to make one. Thanks a million fellas!
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