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hello guys i have a serious problem..
gigabyte p35-ds3l , gainward 8800gt , thermaltake psu 450watt , cpu intel e6750 2.66 ghz
when i bought this system all works fine how do i know? the answer" when i turn pc on the graphic fan work at full rpm and then it slow down and then all works fine and great windows load ....etc from here i know that the computer work great and all fine .
the problem is , sometime when i turn pc "on" i hear that graphic fan works all time at full rpm not like usual condition ->"5 seconds at full speed and then slow down and windows boot" so the graphic card stay at full rpm and no signal to the monitor .
another problem is when i put the pc into sleep mode it does the same thing and stay at full rpm with no signal to the monitor
help me please i am dead to know whats that damn problem i am sure its not a driver issues mybe its or the mobo or psu ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

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Try pulling and reseating the vidcard...
Also, pull and reseat the vidcard's power connector, especially if you're using the peculiar little power adapter that came with it...
On the offhand theory that perhaps you have an actual temperature problem, or perhaps a failing temp sensor, try downloading and installing either:
GPU-Z
or
HWMonitor Pro 1.09 (32-bit)
HWMonitor Pro 1.09 (64-bit)
so you can monitor what kind of temps it 'thinks' it's 'seeing'...


 

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look when the problem begin i immediatly bring brand new graphic card 8400 gs and the same problem
mybe its mobo or psu ????????? i dont know how to attach file in this forum or mybe the psu not giving eounght power to the graphic card so its cant boot up or get into the sleep mode
its so wierd because iam playing command and conquer 3 for hours whithout crashing or bluescreen all goes smooth its so wierd what it could be (i have been chek the psu for blown capacitors all of them at good condition .
how do i attach a file in this forum gpu temp at 69 celsious
 

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GPU Core Clock GPU Memory Clock GPU Shader Clock GPU Temperature
2010-06-27 17:50:35 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 ,
PCB Temperature GPU Temperature PCB Temperature Fan Speed Memory Used [MB
53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3517 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:36 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3516 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:37 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3511 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:38 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3514 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:39 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3511 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:40 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3510 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:41 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3513 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:42 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3510 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:43 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3509 , 71 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:44 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3513 , 70 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:45 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3517 , 70 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:46 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3517 , 70 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:50:47 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.8 , 30 , 3512 , 70 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:54:54 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3516 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:54:55 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.3 , 30 , 3509 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:54:56 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3512 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:54:57 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3513 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:54:58 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3511 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:54:59 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3510 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:55:00 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3509 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

2010-06-27 17:55:01 , 601.7 , 900.0 , 1512.0 , 69.0 , 53.0 , 61.8 , 53.5 , 30 , 3509 , 64 , 0 , 0 , 0 ,

 

bilbat

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Temperatures do look pretty well stable - have a couple questions regarding power:

Please post the PSU model number - ThermalTake make at least three 450's that I couold quickly find, maybe more - want to look at 'rail' layout, to figure out some testing procedure(s);

Are you using a direct PSU-supplied vidcard power plug, (also, six or eight pin - maker's website is not clear on this...), or the manufacturer's peculiar little adapter? If PSU cable, do you still have the adapter? (My thought here is that maybe we can get the vidcard supply onto a different PSU rail by switching plugs, to see if there's maybe a failing rail...)

Might also want to supply a list of everything in the system - like to see how close to PSU peak rating we are - PSU's do 'age', as the electrolyte in the capacitors dry - lose some percentage of 'peak' in the process - if you have 30% 'headroom' (spare power rating) shouldn't be an issue; but if you're, say, withing ten percent of peak, might have become the problem...

 

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thermaltake tr2 rx-450pp there is one red port for graphic card and the rest of ports for hdd cd dvd etc
so what should i do how to figure out the problem give me a software to figure ou the problem
 

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iam using six pin cable from psu to the graphic card its red port on the psu .
what i heard from the past that gigabyte mobo have problems with sleep mode
 

bilbat

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...everything has problems with sleep mode - it is half 'art & science', and half 'skill & knack' to get it to work right - the more complex and powerful the machine, the bigger the difficulties... To minimize the possibility of troubles, go to "Power Management Setup" page of the BIOS, and set "ACPI Suspend Type" to "S1(POS)"...

Haven't had a look at the PSU docs yet - running slow today, as am bringing a new machine on-line for someone; just finished testing DIMMs, and have 'er 'in-the-box', prepping for XMP tests - once they're running, will have a bit of time [:isamuelson:8]
 

bilbat

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Well, I dug a while at the PSU documentation, but can't seem to make heads or tails of it... Looks like there are, indeed, two twelve volt rails, but from the docs, looks like one is dedicated to the ATX12x4 connector - which doesn't seem at all reasonable! Can't figure much else to try, on the hardware end, than to just give a try to the adapter that came with the card that 'converts' from a MOLEX.

I went through all my hardware monitoring software, and nothing shows either the slot PCIe 12V supply voltage, or the 'incoming' to the card edge x6 or x8 - HWMonitor pro shows the actual GPU voltage, but that's useless - just over a volt...

Have you tried the built-in dxdiag? I've found troubles before with it - but never hardware problems. If you'd like to try it, just type dxdiag into your start menu's search bar and hit enter...
 

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cpu intel e6750 2.66ghz without overclock
memory kingstone 2gb kit 800mhz
thermaltake tr2 rx-450pp 450watt
gigabyte p35ds3l
hitachi 160gb standard one
latest bios f9 with latest driver and dirext 11
tell me which part to test please i will take a reserve part and test it
 

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today when i turn pc on it gave me at windows 7 loading ---->nvlddmkm bluescreen then it restart and after the restart all fine
i am gonna be crazy
 

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update =look man i reset the memories(kingstone ) and all goes smothly fast!! in the startup and in sleep mode all converts to fast as hell what it should be should i test memory in memtest mybe they are issues or the motherboard
and i notice that when i turn the pc on after i did reseting the memory the startup was faster before i reseting the memories tell me what should i do i dont want the problem to come back help please !!!!!!!! i have alot of money $$$$$$ tell me what should i buy
 

bilbat

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memory instability can cause all manner og 'ill-behaviour'; there are comprehensive MemTest instructions in "Part IV - Tweaking and tuning", a thing I've been working on to 'sticky'... You want to read the middle, "Memtest Techniques:", for a couple paragraphs which will show you the download, and how to prepare a MemTest CD, USB stick, or floppy; then drop down to the next purple entry - Memtest Useage:, which will explain doing 'DIMM-at-a-time' testing to eliminate hardware problems as a cause...

Sorry - have a few more questions, and no real answers (yet):

What did you mean by "i reset the memories"?

Are you, by chance, using Win Xp? (have seen some similar issues - may give us a hint)

Do you have any experience with manually editing the registry?

How old is this system - i.e., how long has the PSU been in service? Do you run it a lot - say, sixteen hours a day? Or just turn it on when you want to use it? I assume you're in Europe - but that's a pretty big place - where are you, and what kind of climate extremes do you have? ("hot & dry" is probably the hardest on a PSU...)

As far as components go, I always recommend G.Skill F2-8500CL5D for socket 775 boards - I've used a lot of it, and have helped a number of people on the board here OC using it - never have had any kind of troubles with it; I can give you a 'mild', 'easy-on-the-hardware' overclock that will be pretty much a 'plug-in' operation - sample, here...
 

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reset means the i pull him off and put him back to the mobo
i dont want to overclock and i dont stress the system i just turn him on when i want to use it
my system is 3 years old iam in palastine middle east
tell me how come that when i pull the memory off and put him back all became faster and smooth ???????????
what should i test before psu or memory or mobo???????