Water cooling

[mikebik]

i have a amd 3870k fm1 socket and want to overclock it and decided to get into water cooling because of the looks and it keeps it cooler than a fan i hear. i would also want to use a water cool on my vga it is a sapphire 6850 1 gb. i'm a complete noob at what kind of kit that would be good i have a small budget around $200. thank you

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Check the Wc sticky out, its full of useful starter info,
With that kind of budget you can probably add a Gpu block to an Xspc kit for now, and you'll add more later because you are hooked
Moto

 

[mikebik]

would this be good? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14188/ex-wat-183/Thermaltake_BigWater_760_Plus_2U_Bay_Drive_Liquid_Cooling_System_CLW0211.html?tl=g30c321s1514

 

[Motopsychojdn]

I'm on the phone at work but as soon as I saw your link said thermaltake I cancelled
Thermaltake watercooling kits are awful, please avoid them like the plague
I can draw up a custom loop once I get home in the morning but I can't tab browse on the mobile to paste links sorry
Moto

 

[mikebik]

I'm on the phone at work but as soon as I saw your link said thermaltake I cancelled
Thermaltake watercooling kits are awful, please avoid them like the plague
I can draw up a custom loop once I get home in the morning but I can't tab browse on the mobile to paste links sorry
Moto

LMAO... i see good reviews but i will trust you because you have more experience at this and thank you for helping me!

 

[Motopsychojdn]

No probs man, general rules in Wc,
Avoid thermaltake and zalman
Avoid aluminium
Ask before spending if in doubt
Check the sticky though, I'll post some bits in the morning, your US based I assume?
Moto

 

[mikebik]

yes i live in the usa... i was looking at this http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=581559&sku=C13-2180&SRCCODE=WEM3140C&cm_mmc=email-_-Main-_-WEM3140-_-tigeremail3140&utm_source=EML&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=WEM3140 could i mod it to make it into a cpu and vga cooler?

 

[greenrider02]

It's certainly possible to mod it, but definitely not advised. The system is designed to be close loop, so there isn't really a way of getting in without making a mess. The pump also may not be designed to handle more than the current load. Also, you would have to add another radiator in to handle the thermal requirements of both CPU and GPU.

Motopsychojdn suggested looking at the Watercooling sticky. I concur +1

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Speak to Lutfij about modding those
he modded one a while back and ended up going for real water hehe,
if you post a budget maximum for us we can see what the best solution is going to be
Moto

 

[mikebik]

the max i can do on a complete set up is $200 us i have seen a h100 for $116

 

[rubix_1011]

I'd highly advise reading the watercooling sticky before you browse around much more...this will help give you an idea of what you are looking at.

 

[mikebik]

i have looked at ek and they are over my budget... i have considered the XSPC Rasa 450 RX120. i want something cheap and simple to do that's why i asked about the h100.... i have read this and found it a lot of help http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265776-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky

 

[rubix_1011]

Not sure I would consider the the Rasa 450 RX120, but I suppose if you were going the route of CPU-only, that's a really cheap way to go. Pretty poor pump- even weaker than the X20 used in the 750 kits.

For a small bump in cost, you should really look at one of the better XSPC kits starting around $130 or so...otherwise, maybe sticking to an air cooler is the best choice for you, as I really can't recommend anything less than a Rasa RS240 kit, which would be the lowest rung of the XSPC kits (and lowest cost) that I can say would be a decent buy.

 

[Motopsychojdn]

I'd agree with rubix, the X20 750L pumps are fine but the 450 is underpowered for anything more than a single block loop
if you cheap out on W/c you will be underwhelmed and wonder why you bothered, but with good investment you will have a fine loop capable of expansion further down the line,
240 rad minimum to start with and if you go Xspc on the pump then the X20 750L is the pump you want
or consider this with a 240 rad,
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=34384
Moto

 

[mikebik]

i have noticed they are out of stock... is their another company good in the $200 range i can go up to 250 if i have to

 

[Motopsychojdn]

What site did you look on?
Theres a few sources on the net in most countries
Moto

 

[mikebik]

http://shop.xs-pc.com/d/Pumps_669.html

 

[mikebik]

i found some here http://www.xoxide.com/xspc-rasa750rs240-watercoolingkit.html

 

[mikebik]

looks like i would only need to buy tubing or am i wrong?

 

[rubix_1011]

XSPC kits come with tubing. I think it's 7/16"ID unless that has changed.

 

[Motopsychojdn]

+1, it decent enough stuff, no point in buying a branded tubing until you expand later, just use what comes with,
Moto

 

[mikebik]

i have ordered the XSPC Rasa 750 RX240 for $169 it is the only one available i hope i can oc the cpu a bit i'm currently at 28c at max load on the stock settings and stock fan

 

[mikebik]

also thank you guys!

 

[rubix_1011]

i'm currently at 28c at max load on the stock settings and stock fan

I doubt you are seeing load temps of 28C...most people only see high 20's to low 30's Celsius at idle. (depending on ambient room temp)

 

[Motopsychojdn]

RX series rad, good move, albeit inadvertantly, great rad and don't worry about performance, I had my 975be at 4.5GHz on mine until I went crazy
Moto