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June 11, 2012 8:45:54 PM

i have a amd 3870k fm1 socket and want to overclock it and decided to get into water cooling because of the looks and it keeps it cooler than a fan i hear. i would also want to use a water cool on my vga it is a sapphire 6850 1 gb. i'm a complete noob at what kind of kit that would be good i have a small budget around $200. thank you

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a c 190 K Overclocking
June 11, 2012 9:27:39 PM

Check the Wc sticky out, its full of useful starter info,
With that kind of budget you can probably add a Gpu block to an Xspc kit for now, and you'll add more later because you are hooked :-)
Moto
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a c 190 K Overclocking
June 11, 2012 10:31:52 PM

I'm on the phone at work but as soon as I saw your link said thermaltake I cancelled :-)
Thermaltake watercooling kits are awful, please avoid them like the plague
I can draw up a custom loop once I get home in the morning but I can't tab browse on the mobile to paste links sorry
Moto
June 11, 2012 11:57:55 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
I'm on the phone at work but as soon as I saw your link said thermaltake I cancelled :-)
Thermaltake watercooling kits are awful, please avoid them like the plague
I can draw up a custom loop once I get home in the morning but I can't tab browse on the mobile to paste links sorry
Moto

LMAO... i see good reviews but i will trust you because you have more experience at this and thank you for helping me!
a c 190 K Overclocking
June 12, 2012 12:30:13 AM

No probs man, general rules in Wc,
Avoid thermaltake and zalman
Avoid aluminium
Ask before spending if in doubt :-)
Check the sticky though, I'll post some bits in the morning, your US based I assume?
Moto
June 13, 2012 1:33:15 PM

It's certainly possible to mod it, but definitely not advised. The system is designed to be close loop, so there isn't really a way of getting in without making a mess. The pump also may not be designed to handle more than the current load. Also, you would have to add another radiator in to handle the thermal requirements of both CPU and GPU.

Motopsychojdn suggested looking at the Watercooling sticky. I concur +1
a c 190 K Overclocking
June 13, 2012 2:56:41 PM

Speak to Lutfij about modding those :) 
he modded one a while back and ended up going for real water hehe,
if you post a budget maximum for us we can see what the best solution is going to be
Moto
June 13, 2012 7:48:17 PM

the max i can do on a complete set up is $200 us i have seen a h100 for $116
a c 324 K Overclocking
June 13, 2012 9:25:37 PM

I'd highly advise reading the watercooling sticky before you browse around much more...this will help give you an idea of what you are looking at.

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a c 324 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 2:18:52 PM
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Not sure I would consider the the Rasa 450 RX120, but I suppose if you were going the route of CPU-only, that's a really cheap way to go. Pretty poor pump- even weaker than the X20 used in the 750 kits.

For a small bump in cost, you should really look at one of the better XSPC kits starting around $130 or so...otherwise, maybe sticking to an air cooler is the best choice for you, as I really can't recommend anything less than a Rasa RS240 kit, which would be the lowest rung of the XSPC kits (and lowest cost) that I can say would be a decent buy.
a c 190 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 3:37:19 PM

I'd agree with rubix, the X20 750L pumps are fine but the 450 is underpowered for anything more than a single block loop
if you cheap out on W/c you will be underwhelmed and wonder why you bothered, but with good investment you will have a fine loop capable of expansion further down the line,
240 rad minimum to start with and if you go Xspc on the pump then the X20 750L is the pump you want
or consider this with a 240 rad,
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
Moto
June 14, 2012 8:55:50 PM

i have noticed they are out of stock... is their another company good in the $200 range i can go up to 250 if i have to
a c 190 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 8:59:09 PM

What site did you look on?
Theres a few sources on the net in most countries
Moto
June 14, 2012 9:07:23 PM

looks like i would only need to buy tubing or am i wrong?
a c 324 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 9:22:44 PM

XSPC kits come with tubing. I think it's 7/16"ID unless that has changed.
a c 190 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 9:48:33 PM

+1, it decent enough stuff, no point in buying a branded tubing until you expand later, just use what comes with,
Moto
June 14, 2012 10:13:24 PM

i have ordered the XSPC Rasa 750 RX240 for $169 it is the only one available i hope i can oc the cpu a bit i'm currently at 28c at max load on the stock settings and stock fan
June 14, 2012 10:14:38 PM

also thank you guys!
a c 324 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 10:42:07 PM

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i'm currently at 28c at max load on the stock settings and stock fan


I doubt you are seeing load temps of 28C...most people only see high 20's to low 30's Celsius at idle. (depending on ambient room temp)
a c 190 K Overclocking
June 14, 2012 10:48:52 PM

RX series rad, good move, albeit inadvertantly, great rad and don't worry about performance, I had my 975be at 4.5GHz on mine until I went crazy :-)
Moto
a c 76 K Overclocking
June 15, 2012 11:05:05 PM

well, i just noticed OP mentioning he'd like to clock the FM1 socketed quad core, if my mem serves me well on this, the FM1 is feeble against an intel counterpart. in fact all it does is produce heat and no clock worthy performance. So a this point, OP needs to understand if watercooling is in fact the route to go...?

Edit: already purchased, too late to warn before the fallout :/ 
June 16, 2012 12:14:50 AM

i aso am going to be building a rig off the FX-8150 i a couple months... if it' not worth it on the 3870k than ill move it to the 8150
a c 76 K Overclocking
June 16, 2012 4:17:06 AM

dya have the 8150 ? if not then save that cash and shoot for intel then and yeah you'll understand where the money went :)  plus you can crank the intel setup nicely... :D 

Edit:i just found the time to re-read the entire thread. Thanks to modo for the mention :)  wouldn't advise anyone to mod a closed loop cooler...rather save yourself the burden and go full on custom or just look at an entry level kit.

@ OP - might want to look at my AMS prjkt to understand what I'm moving out of and moving into in terms of a watercooling loop.
June 16, 2012 7:19:49 AM

i have been happy with amd forever but i could go with the i5-2500K i hear good things about it.... i like the set up in your Spedo.... thank you for the info it's very helpful
a c 76 K Overclocking
June 16, 2012 7:29:17 AM

only here to help, mate+your welcome.
June 19, 2012 10:20:17 PM

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