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a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 1:39:03 PM

I plan on getting an ATI 5850 as soon as it will be available in my town. The possible problem is the stock speed of the quad CPU. I know it will bottleneck the card at my current resolution 1680x1050. I plan on getting a new 28" soon too. So, my question is : do you think I should OC the CPU? If yes, to what speed?
Another factor is that for the moment I play WOW. That game uses only 2 cores :( . I have all the current popular games installed, but WOW still is the most played. Before anyone tells me that a 5850 is an overkill for WOW, my current 4870 only manages 30 FPS in Dalaran (for those who know) with all details high, and occasionally the FPS drops below that in certain areas (and I know for sure my net is not the problem - under 20 ms latency).
So, do I OC the quad or the 5850 will be just fine with the stock at 1920x1080?

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December 14, 2009 1:58:15 PM

overclock for sure, I would say about 3.2Ghz, or any higher that you want allthough....
I don't think you're going to see a big difference between 3.2 Ghz and 3.8 Ghz. I do know, you will see a difference between 2.4 and 3.2 Ghz.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 2:02:31 PM

Ehsan w said:
overclock for sure, I would say about 3.2Ghz, or any higher that you want allthough....
I don't think you're going to see a big difference between 3.2 Ghz and 3.8 Ghz. I do know, you will see a difference between 2.4 and 3.2 Ghz.


Even at 1920x1080 with all details to very high + full AA? That will stress the card more than the CPU.
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a c 147 U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 2:20:21 PM

I would get the 5850 regardless. If you OC your CPU, of course you will most likely see some slight improvements. But the video upgrade alone will be a huge improvement.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 2:24:26 PM

jay2tall said:
I would get the 5850 regardless. If you OC your CPU, of course you will most likely see some slight improvements. But the video upgrade alone will be a huge improvement.


Don't worry :D  I get the GPU no matter what :) ), as soon as I can find it in stores.I would have gotten the 5870 but I don't want to change the case too for that monster.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 2:39:59 PM

jay2tall said:
Not sure about the 5870 on that PSU. Especially if you start OCing your CPU. The 5850 would be good to go.

Where are you located? If you are in the US, just grab one off Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Romania so no access to Newegg. Currently I am in England on business so maybe I will check here. From johnnyguru, this PSU is pretty decent so I think it can handle a 5870, but the length of the GPU and my current case restrict my choices to the 5850. I would buy a new full tower case if I didn't think my fiance would kill me :D  (already stretching it with the 5850 and the new 28" monitor :D )
a c 147 U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 2:44:21 PM

I tend to be a little conservative with what a PSU can handle. That PSU can handle about 35A on the 12V rails and the 5870 requirement is 40A. With an OCed Cpu that will suck up some juice as well. I like to play it a little safe.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 2:47:30 PM

jay2tall said:
I tend to be a little conservative with what a PSU can handle. That PSU can handle about 35A on the 12V rails and the 5870 requirement is 40A. With an OCed Cpu that will suck up some juice as well. I like to play it a little safe.


Hmm. I think you are right. For the 5870 that is a little on the unsafe side. Well, knowing me next year in autumn I will be wanting to buy the 6850-6870. Then I will get to search for a new PSU too :D .
a c 147 U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 3:17:15 PM

I tend to upgrade my graphics every year. I had a 4870 and attempted to crossfire another 4870, but has all sorts of heat issues and didn't want to deal with them. I sold both cards on eBay and got the 5870. The single card runs with a pair of 4870's CFed and sucks FAR less power.

You may be surprised. If you get a 5850 now, the next gen may double performance and still consume the same amount of power.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 3:24:17 PM

jay2tall said:
I tend to upgrade my graphics every year. I had a 4870 and attempted to crossfire another 4870, but has all sorts of heat issues and didn't want to deal with them. I sold both cards on eBay and got the 5870. The single card runs with a pair of 4870's CFed and sucks FAR less power.

You may be surprised. If you get a 5850 now, the next gen may double performance and still consume the same amount of power.


I try to upgrade often also. Seeing the latest generations from ATI I expect the 68xx series to be something completely new. (something in line with a 6890x2 - 6890 being a 'core 2' product). Well, we will see that won't we :D 
a c 147 U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 3:43:15 PM

GPU's are a little different than CPU's. They already have tons of stream processors and ROP units. I am hoping that forking over $400 for a GPU this time will be me a little over a year this go around. haha.
a b U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 6:39:28 PM

Being a former Q6600 owner, I'd say overclock it. At the stock 2.4Ghz you won't get full potential out of the 5850 I don't think. Overclock to like 3.2Ghz or higher if you can.

I recently replaced my Q6600 which ran @ 3.2Ghz with an i5-750 @ 4Ghz. With my GTX 260 SLI setup I actually saw marked improvements in 3dMark scores for GPU SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores. And that's even after switching from a 16x/16x motherboard to an 8x/8x board. I still saw an improvement.

If you want the ATI 5850 I'd still say get it. But realize that you may get 90% of it's peak, rather than 100%. It's all about having the right expectations. :) 
a c 147 U Graphics card
December 14, 2009 7:13:28 PM

^I try to rely on game benchmarks. 3Dmark tends to favor certain component and doesn't really give an accurate assessment of what you really have. I like running some game benches or just play the game with an FPS OSD and aim at sticking 60FPS constantly. Because that is you real goal, isn't it?
a b U Graphics card
December 15, 2009 7:01:46 AM

jay2tall said:
^I try to rely on game benchmarks. 3Dmark tends to favor certain component and doesn't really give an accurate assessment of what you really have. I like running some game benches or just play the game with an FPS OSD and aim at sticking 60FPS constantly. Because that is you real goal, isn't it?


My real goal is to play any game at high-very high settings without any noticeable drops in FPS. From my experience I don't notice anything different above 35-40 FPS so that is my expected goal. And I think that the 5850 at 1920x1080 will fulfill that goal in any game, even on Crysis (high-very high settings).
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
December 15, 2009 7:14:06 AM

You should OC the processor no matter what. Why not? Pretty much all core2duo/quads are great for OCing, usually to between 3.3 and 4 ghz without much difficulty.
February 9, 2010 7:33:20 PM

Hi
I have a q6600 as well and I just bought a 5850.

If I leave it at stock speed, do you think it is still good for gaming?

Thanks everyone,
!