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December 16, 2009 4:13:39 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: around christmas.. making use of the on-sale if any

BUDGET RANGE: $5000 - $7000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: heavy gaming.., heavy video and audio too. just for benchmark.. i'm looking for sick score.


PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: dont matter

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: U.S

PARTS PREFERENCES: atleast 40" LCD and also need Boss speaker system

OVERCLOCKING: Yes and i'm good at it

MONITOR RESOLUTION: up to you guys

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: as long as it doesn't make my room HOT like summer...

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December 16, 2009 4:51:06 AM

$7000 Budget PC.

Haha.
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December 16, 2009 4:58:36 AM

misenlai said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: around christmas.. making use of the on-sale if any

BUDGET RANGE: $5000 - $7000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: heavy gaming.., heavy video and audio too. just for benchmark.. i'm looking for sick score.


PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: dont matter

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: U.S

PARTS PREFERENCES: atleast 40" LCD and also need Boss speaker system

OVERCLOCKING: Yes and i'm good at it

MONITOR RESOLUTION: up to you guys

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: as long as it doesn't make my room HOT like summer...


Go to Newegg and open a tab for each component, like cpu, cases, monitors, and so on. Then click on the link that says "see all (items)" Then go to the upper right hand corner and open the box that says best match. Then click on the option called "Highest First." Then, once you you found the most expensive stuff that you like or that you think looks cool, come back here and we'll tell you if its all compatible or not. Cheers!
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December 16, 2009 5:11:16 AM

You want to spend up to 7000 and are looking for Christmas specials? Please. if you are thinking of saving money you should seriously drop the budget to 1500 bucks and realize that in 8-12 months your 7000 pc will be 2nd best, tops. It doesn't take long at all for components to become obsolete so your sick gaming pc will be a waste of money.

I can't take this serious when you want to spend that type of money on hardware that will be 2nd best in 6 months and you want to try and save money.

If you really want to make a difference, take the other 5500 bucks you would've wasted and make a difference in a foster home for kids that wont have a Christmas this year.

I love trying to help people when they make reasonable posts here but this one doesn't make sense at all...
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December 16, 2009 4:01:38 PM

www.alienware.com


Go make yourself an Area 51 ALX because anything over 3k on a gaming computer in most peoples eye is just a waste due to the fact of every 6 months their is something better. So what better place to waste money then on a dell..i mean alienware.


I mean seriously dude your going to get flamed if you want to spend more then 4k on a computer in these forums; Its economically unintelligent. So you might as well throw your money away at an Alienware; Hell that way you don't even have to worry about building it!!!

I mean hey..at least you get a pretty rad case; you know what i mean?
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December 16, 2009 8:10:08 PM

go to falconnorthwest.com and waste your money there
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December 16, 2009 8:28:28 PM

sabot00 said:
Why flame him?
He's asking on what best to get a high score with a $7000 PC.
Treat it as you would otherwise, does the budget really change how you look at people?


Combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

Try that with some SSD's thrown in.


Man, I was just about to put together a real build that probably would have looked similar to that but you beat me to it. Oh well.

Or, he can get 194 Sempron 140s with $7000. You could like, build a litttle mini castle with the packaging or something.
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December 16, 2009 8:44:40 PM

A person can spend what they want on what they want. I just call it like it is when its senseless spending. Most people like that have no idea their system will need to be updated every 6-12 months with new hardware releases if they intend to keep that mindset.

The 7000.00 becomes 15000~20000 in 3-5 years. It just doesn't make sense to me so someone else can recommend the build.

My 2 corn kernels
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December 16, 2009 8:52:13 PM

Budget is overkill, but why not spend $1500-2000 on a rig that you can OC under LN2 or DIce? Use the rest of the $ for a nice gaming rig ($2000-3000), use the reast of the money for future upgrades. Like englander753 said, your $7k PC will be history in 5-6 months esp. when i9 comes out.
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December 16, 2009 9:30:46 PM

Yea, if you really want the best of the best now, get something similar to the supreme combo level 10 posted above, but get an i7 920 instead and maybe a 5970 instead of 2 5870s, this'll save you prob like 1k. Buy a nice 30" monitor with that 1k and then some nice speakers. What ever money you save you can spend down the road on upgrades.
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December 16, 2009 10:04:00 PM

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: X2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: X3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL: ~5800 without shipping, without monitor. Can't get much more expensive than that! Unless I overlooked something, which is entirely possible as I don't like Intel, everything should work. I warn you, however, that, as pretty much everyone has already said, this build is a total waste of money. Hope this helps!

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December 16, 2009 10:26:09 PM

need to overclock this gig to 8 GHZ. I might make an icebox..... if not any suggested cooling methods? thermal cooling?
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December 16, 2009 10:41:11 PM

put it in the fridge.

obviously, this guy is just stupid or just trying to get something that he doesn't really have.
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December 17, 2009 12:15:43 AM

^Agreed, There is NO WAY you can get an (current gen) i7 to 8Ghz.

@OP:

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December 17, 2009 12:30:16 AM

Good advice from most - regardless of the fact that you can spend however much you want on this, the guys on this forum typically know their way around components. I'd listen.

Assuming you choose to ignore said advice, this is a bad place to ask about anything that will run you more than $3k.

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December 17, 2009 1:01:06 AM

ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer "Ultimate Gamer" 3Way SLI + PhysX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-975 Extreme Edition Bloomfield 3.33GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(2) CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(2) Antec 761345-75020-2 80mm Blue LED Optional Case Fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Signature SG-850 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(2) Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M160G2 in RAID 0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(4) Western Digital Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB 7200 RPM RAID of your choice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PLEXTOR Black 4MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner Blu-ray Disc Burner Model PX-B940SA SW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Prolimatech Megashadow w/ IC Diamond Karat 7 Thermal Compound
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9655/cpu-pro-05/Proli...

(2) Emermax Apolish 120 x 25mm CPU HS Fans
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9694/fan-615/Enermax_...

AFT XM-35U BLACK USB 2.0 Kiosk Card Reader (3.5")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(2) XFX HD-597A-CNB9 Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition 2GB 512
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(1) XFX GX260XAWFC GeForce GTX 260 896MB dedicated PhysX card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HT | OMEGA Claro Halo XT 24-bit 192KHz Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(3) Dell U2410
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/pr...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Logitech G9 Black 9 Buttons Tilt Wheel USB Wired Laser 3200 dpi Gaming Mouse

Logitech G19 Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Win7-64 Ultimate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ok, does it all fit, I dunno....it's not my money :) 
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December 18, 2009 12:38:35 PM

What you can do is spend the 2000 for your PC and give the 5000 to charity.
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December 18, 2009 12:40:51 PM

*** that
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December 21, 2009 12:44:34 AM

misenlai said:
need to overclock this gig to 8 GHZ. I might make an icebox..... if not any suggested cooling methods? thermal cooling?


Wow so I presume you will placing your computer in here then


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
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December 22, 2009 12:42:57 PM

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I know it's a little bit over your budget, but it'll get you all the chicos if you know what i mean


Chicas, not Chicos. Chicos = male. ;) 
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December 22, 2009 12:57:39 PM

aiight all the parts ordered. I need a frig for an icebox tho. Any suggestion?
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December 22, 2009 3:24:52 PM

$7000 on a rig that is truly over the top. Think of all of the stuff you could do instead of burning it on a rig that will be out of date within two years. But hey your money
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December 22, 2009 7:48:58 PM

Shadow703793 said:
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I know it's a little bit over your budget, but it'll get you all the chicos if you know what i mean


Chicas, not Chicos. Chicos = male. ;) 


LOL and that is why i failed spanish in grade 10 :D 
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March 22, 2010 3:20:33 PM

I'm in about the same boat as you, $5k to $7k budget and a lack of good advice for this price range. Some of the things I'm considering:

boot drive
OCZ Z-Drive, PCIe
Crucial RealSSD C300 x2, RAID-0, SATA 6GB/s
Intel X25-M G2 x2, RAID-0

data drive
Western Digital Caviar Black, 64MB cache, SATA 6GB/s, RAID-1 or RAID-5, 1TB

motherboard
EVGA Classified SR-2, dual cpu, 7x PCIe, SATA 6GB/s, USB 3.0
Asus Rampage III Extreme, SATA 6GB/s, USB 3.0
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7, SATA 6GB/s, USB 3.0

cpu
core i7 920
core i7 980X
gulftown xeon 32nm 6-core x2

power supply
Corsair 1000HX
Silverstone Strider ST1500

memory
12 GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz DDR3
6 GB Corsair Dominator GT, 2000MHz DDR3
6 GB G.Skill DDR3

video cards
Radeon HD 5970 x2, 2GB
Radeon HD 5970, 4GB
Radeon HD 5870 x3 or x4
Nvidia Fermi 480GTX x2 or x3 or x4

optical drive
LG Blu-Ray burner
Panasonic Blu-Ray burner

operating system
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

sleeving
MDPC-X black and grand bleu

case
Corsair 800D
Lian Li PC-343B
Mountain Mods Extended Ascension
Murdermod TJ07

pumps, radiators, tubing, fans, fittings, reservoirs, cpu cooler, gpu cooler, chipset cooler as needed for water cooling. In other words, I have some plans for those but don't have my notes with me for the exact brands, LOL.

monitors
NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK-R x3
Dell 3007WFP-HC
Dell 3008WFP
Samsung Eyefinity
LG W3000H

I've already ordered the three monitors and I got a steal on them, so I still have $5k left in my budget for the computer. I'm stoked, three 30" 2560 x 1600 monitors in portrait Eyefinity is going to rock. I'm tempted to get three more of them, but I don't think they'd fit on my desk and I know my wife would have a conniption if I got that instead of a new laptop for her.

If you have a $7k budget, spend about $2k on monitor(s) and then the rest on the computer is what I would do. Heck, who am I kidding, it's what I did do. Monitors are due to arrive this week, they shipped out Thursday of last week. Now I have to put together a system to run them.

Another possibility for monitors if you aren't as crazy about resolution is to go with three of the 3D capable monitors, like the Dell Alienware 120Hz monitors. That would set you back about $1500 total. Or the Samsung 6 monitor Eyefinity setup, for about $2500.

I guess what I'm saying is that if everyone's giving you crap and saying you don't "need" to spend $5k to $7k on a computer... don't overlook the possibility of spending a big chunk of your budget on the monitors and the boot drive, luxuries that will improve your computer experience but which would not be a serious consideration for someone with a $4K or under budget.
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March 29, 2010 11:19:12 AM

Best answer selected by r_manic.
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April 3, 2010 2:51:45 AM

Bolas said:
I'm building a $7k+ system. Here's the buildlog.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24...


A little piece of my soul just died.

Please, I tend to be a little mean, so don't take it that way. It's just when I see things like this I can only shake my head. Please view this as constructive criticism and hopefully you can RMA away some of the major issues.

You should have just air cooled it. Seriously. 4x120 is going to run hotter on this build than any aftermarket HSF. i7+5970+Full board block is going to require at a minimum 6x120. With the money you're throwing around and the amount of space in the 800D this was an easy 2 loop build. You can fit 2x MCR320s in the 800D.

EK 5970 block, Say bye-bye to your VRMs. When you start to getting temps that encroach 80c on your 5970 you'll know why. The original 5970 blocks like the one you've purchased didn't take into account all of the VRMs on the 5970 and offer virtually no coverage of them making these blocks worse than stock cooling, which is fine on the 5970 btw. They tend to not run all that hot.

WD 1TB. Uses older 320GB platters. Either Samsung F3 or Seagate 7200.12 easily surpass it in performance. If reliability was your major concern the 2TB WD Black is based on the faster 500 GB platters.

12 GB Dominators... You've spent $400 in RAM that's going to show no advantage over a single 3x2GB kit G.Skill ripjaws for $140.

Desk is the reason you didn't go with a 5970 Eyefinity 6? How about the microstuttering that you're going to face with a regular 5970? Trying to push 4800x2560 (12.2 megapixels) with only 1 GB of accessible RAM isn't going to be a happy place. Research micro-stuttering and then reconsider your choice. Seriously. Here's where your power of RMA comes into play.

1500w PSU. Did I miss the part where you were installing 3 or 4 TECs? Were you also planning on running your dryer off this thing? The monitors have their own psus, so unless you plan on upgrading to tri-5970's you kind of went overkill here, by about 700 watts.

Don't feel too bad when as you're in the middle of playing a game and your adaptered monitor drops out. It's a pretty well known issue and one that we all face when not using natural dp monitors. Of course if I had just dropped 4-6k on monitors it'd still piss me off. Hell I only dropped 700$ in monitors and it pisses me off. 5x Dell U2410 = $2600 @ 6000 x 1920 for surround gaming goodness, plus you'd have native dp support, not to mention they'd be brand new. With that being said, those NEC's are nice. You don't know the envy that bubbles through me thinking of them, just not the price tag.

980x... well you already know.

Cute kid btw, your wife looks somewhat shell-shocked. Best of luck with your build, this wasn't shots at you personally. I'd definitely look into replacing the 5970 and reconsider using the EK block on it.
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April 3, 2010 9:55:47 PM

a4mula said:
It's just when I see things like this I can only shake my head. Please view this as constructive criticism and hopefully you can RMA away some of the major issues.


I've been asking for advice on various forums and planning this build for six months now... your advice is a bit late.

a4mula said:
You should have just air cooled it. Seriously. 4x120 is going to run hotter on this build than any aftermarket HSF. i7+5970+Full board block is going to require at a minimum 6x120. With the money you're throwing around and the amount of space in the 800D this was an easy 2 loop build. You can fit 2x MCR320s in the 800D.


I want it to be quiet, I want it to look cool, and I want to learn how to do water cooling, so I decided not to air cool it. This is a learning build for me, so I'm going with a fairly simple case and only one loop until I get the basics down. Next build will probably be a bit more ambitious. Got to learn to crawl before walk, and walk before run.

If it's too hot, I can mod the case and add a double 120 rad in the bottom of the case, or hang a large radiator off the back of the unit, for minimal additional cost. I thought about trying to do it all with just the triple in the top, but the advice I got was don't do that, it's not enough cooling. I have heard of people doing cpu + one graphics card with a single quad radiator before, so I thought a triple plus a single is roughly the same as a quad and I'd give it a shot.

I thought about two loops, but decided just to start with a single loop at first, mainly because I wanted more than just a 120 on my cpu and the three plus one didn't divide up good into two loops.

Where can you fit the second MCR320 into the 800D? I haven't seen that done before, link to a build log showing a second 320 inside a Corsair 800D please, so I can check out how they did it. I'd love to have a second triple in the case if it's reasonable to do and not too ugly. I can also switch to a double loop easy enough, just get a second pump and reservoir and buy some more tubing. Just a matter of wanting to do so. For now, I"ll try out the single loop and see what kind of results (temps, aesthetics) I get from that.


a4mula said:
EK 5970 block, Say bye-bye to your VRMs. When you start to getting temps that encroach 80c on your 5970 you'll know why. The original 5970 blocks like the one you've purchased didn't take into account all of the VRMs on the 5970 and offer virtually no coverage of them making these blocks worse than stock cooling, which is fine on the 5970 btw. They tend to not run all that hot.


Can't I just stick a few more thermal pads on the water block and solve that problem? I purchased what they had in stock at performance-pcs.com. I hadn't heard of any design issues with the EK blocks. I'm surprised they haven't fixed design issues with the EK blocks after the problems were discovered, it's been out for at least three months now, should have been fixed by now. I thought about leaving the stock cooling on the 5970 and just cooling the cpu and motherboard. That's still an option, btw, I don't have to use the water block for the 5970. Or I could add in a second loop just for the gpu, who knows.

a4mula said:
WD 1TB. Uses older 320GB platters. Either Samsung F3 or Seagate 7200.12 easily surpass it in performance. If reliability was your major concern the 2TB WD Black is based on the faster 500 GB platters.


I wanted a hard drive with 64MB cache, minimum 1TB of space, 7200 rpm, and SATA III. I didn't particularly care about platter size or block size. This WD 1TB caviar black fit the bill. I won't be using it all that much, just to store maybe 100MB of photos, music, and short video clips, so I don't think it'll be that big of a deal. I like the 5 year warranty on the WD hard drive. Cache size does make a difference in performance, so for the stuff I store and the limited amount of times I use that storage, it should be a nice improvement from my 5400 rpm 16mb cache laptop drive, which I am sure isn't built on 500gb platters because it's only a 120 gb hard disk drive.

a4mula said:
12 GB Dominators... You've spent $400 in RAM that's going to show no advantage over a single 3x2GB kit G.Skill ripjaws for $140.


The advantage is the additional amount of RAM. I was deciding between 6GB of mushkin redline 6-7-6-18 1600MHz, 6 gb of corsair dominator gt 7-8-7-20 2000MHz, 12 gb of G.Skill 7-8-7-24 1600MHz, and 12 GB of Corsair Dominator 8-8-8-24 1600MHz. I picked the muskin, then changed my mind, cancelled the order, and picked the corsair dominator 12 GB. I decided I liked 12 GB more than 6 GB, the 2000 MHz wasn't all that important to me, I liked the looks of the blue and black corsair better than the blue and black G. Skills, and I liked that I could unscrew the heat sinks on the top of the corsair in case I wanted to water cool it for aesthetic reasons.

a4mula said:
Desk is the reason you didn't go with a 5970 Eyefinity 6? How about the microstuttering that you're going to face with a regular 5970? Trying to push 4800x2560 (12.2 megapixels) with only 1 GB of accessible RAM isn't going to be a happy place. Research micro-stuttering and then reconsider your choice. Seriously. Here's where your power of RMA comes into play.


The number one reason I didn't go with the 5970 Eyefinity 6? It isn't out yet. Also, my monitors don't have display port and I didn't relish the thought of spending $375 on adapters for it. There are no water blocks for the 4GB editions, and not likely to be any, because it's a limited edition board. So I'll get the 5970 for now, and if it can't do everything I want to do with it, I'll either add a second one or sell it off and buy an air cooled 4GB card, depending on the exact nature of the problem that I have with it.

I mostly play 2D games, like Starcraft, Warcraft III, and Civilization IV. I also play some older titles of 3D games that aren't too challenging graphicallly, like Everquest and the occasional Team Fortress II game. So I really only needed a single 5870 card and not a 5970, but the advice that I got was I should go with a minimum of a 5970 and leave the option open to add a second one if needed, so that's the route I went.

There's always new technology coming out down the road. I would love to have an Asus Rampage III Extreme motherboard with a pair of Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 4GB graphics cards... but I can't buy those yet, they aren't for sale. Worse, they don't even have an announced release date. I don't care to wait indefinitely. I've been saving up for two years for this build, and seriously planning it with what little advice was available on the boards from people that actually tried to help instead of just making fun of the budget, for at least six months now. I waited for gulftown to come out, and bought a gulftown chip, because the core i7 975 just isn't worth it and can't be justified over the 920. Yes, I could have bought a 930 and had more room in the budget for other things, but I didn't.

I also waited for fermi to come out, and that was a huge disappointment. Noisy, hot, and power hungry. And support for triple monitors not available yet. So I went with a single 5970 and plan to upgrade to fermi gen2 or cypress gen2 either at Christmas or some later date. Basically whenever the technology is out and when I can't do everything I want to do with the existing card.

a4mula said:
1500w PSU. Did I miss the part where you were installing 3 or 4 TECs? Were you also planning on running your dryer off this thing? The monitors have their own psus, so unless you plan on upgrading to tri-5970's you kind of went overkill here, by about 700 watts.


I planned to have enough power to power up to four single gpu cards when I bought the power supply. Four fermi or four 5870's. I also like it that the sweet spot for efficiency is around the 50% mark on the power supply, so I'll be operating at the most efficient point of the power supply's power curve and thus getting the most efficient use of my electric bill money.

I planned to keep this power supply for a long time. Five or ten years or so. I could have bought a 1000W Corsair, and almost did. But the one I picked runs quiet, got good reviews from jonnyguru.com, and is 100% modular, something that's important for me for sleeving everything and for being able to remove the psu without re-routing all my cables.

So yes, it's more than I need for this particular build. But it would be less than I need for a Classified SR-2 dual gulftown system with quad fermi 480GTX's in a Mountain Mods Extended Ascension case. Something I also considered until I decided I would rather have monitor glory instead of additional cores and memory that I probably wouldn't use all that much. That, plus the current build is much more affordable, LOL.

a4mula said:
Don't feel too bad when as you're in the middle of playing a game and your adaptered monitor drops out. It's a pretty well known issue and one that we all face when not using natural dp monitors. Of course if I had just dropped 4-6k on monitors it'd still piss me off. Hell I only dropped 700$ in monitors and it pisses me off. 5x Dell U2410 = $2600 @ 6000 x 1920 for surround gaming goodness, plus you'd have native dp support, not to mention they'd be brand new. With that being said, those NEC's are nice. You don't know the envy that bubbles through me thinking of them, just not the price tag.


I researched the adapters and made sure to get an eyefinity validated dongle that would support my chosen resolution.

http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-don...

Perhaps you are using a non-validated dongle?

Also... I researched the monitors thoroughly too. The envy should come from the price I paid for the three nice NEC monitors. I spent $2206.25 for the three of them, including shipping. I chose these because of the price, the ratings, and the fact that they have built in pivot, tilt, and height adjustment.

Since I mostly want portrait setup and something close to 16:10 aspect ratio, I didn't really care to add two more monitors, but I did leave that option open. If I decide I want additional screen real estate, I can always add in two more monitors and switch to an Eyefinity 6 5970 4GB card at some point down the road. But for now I suspect I'll be pretty happy with these, the Eyefinity 6 card isn't out yet, I don't play that many 3D first person games, and I don't particularly want to buy a new desk.

a4mula said:
980x... well you already know.


I seriously thought about returning this, but Microcenter's return policy on cpu's sucks, even unopened ones. I think I'll just have to make due with the most powerful single processor on the planet for a while, even if it is a bit too luxurious.

a4mula said:
Cute kid btw, your wife looks somewhat shell-shocked. Best of luck with your build, this wasn't shots at you personally. I'd definitely look into replacing the 5970 and reconsider using the EK block on it.


I can't get an RMA on my wife, already tried. Nice idea though.

I'm crazy about my daughter, she's wonderful.

What block would you recommend?

I obviously can't replace the 5970 with something that isn't out yet. And this should get me by just fine until the next gen of boards comes out, at which point I can ebay this one with the blocks and get something else.

I appreciate the advice, but next time it would be better to give it before I place the orders!! :) 
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April 3, 2010 10:19:03 PM

Just build a normal $1500 or so system and buy one of these:

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April 4, 2010 12:14:50 AM

LOL. I checked on those, not really what I wanted. I like the portrait mode better than the landscape one. Crazy monitor, though.
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April 4, 2010 1:53:08 AM

@_@ Another over $2000 build? Ppl are getting rich somehow. Can someone tell me how to get rich so that I can build a $1000 computer and use the rest of the money to invest properly?

Anyway, even if you get top-of-the-line parts, you should have enough money left over for liquid cooling system. I suggest that, as well as an AWESOME monitor like the one Draconian suggested.
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April 4, 2010 1:58:11 AM

kageryu said:
@_@ Another over $2000 build? Ppl are getting rich somehow. Can someone tell me how to get rich so that I can build a $1000 computer and use the rest of the money to invest properly?

Anyway, even if you get top-of-the-line parts, you should have enough money left over for liquid cooling system. I suggest that, as well as an AWESOME monitor like the one Draconian suggested.


Well... I got a bachelor's degree in engineering, some work experience, and then a master's degree in engineering from a top ten school.

Then, I saved up five years gross salary (not net) for retirement, so that I would be covered when I'm old instead of eating cat food and living off the non-existent social security.

Then I saved for two years to get a dream computer system.

So basically, if you are in high school, it'll be a while. But that's how you do it. Cover your long term investments first, have money to spend by getting a good education and a good job. It takes hard work and patience.

Oh, I also forgot to say.... make sure your wife's wishes are covered first, or you'll get too much heartache when you spend that kind of money on yourself. We've spent about four times that much on her stuff -- vacations, decorating the house, and so on. My turn now.

The quicker way to do it is to start a business and work hard at it for about ten years. You have to love what you do, work long hours for next to nothing for several years, hire the right people, and have a solid business plan, but at the end, you will be rich if you did it right and you could potentially get a dream system in five to ten years after school instead of 20 or more years.

Hope that helped.

-Bolas
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April 4, 2010 8:26:59 AM

Bolas said:
Well... I got a bachelor's degree in engineering, some work experience, and then a master's degree in engineering from a top ten school.

Then, I saved up five years gross salary (not net) for retirement, so that I would be covered when I'm old instead of eating cat food and living off the non-existent social security.

Then I saved for two years to get a dream computer system.

So basically, if you are in high school, it'll be a while. But that's how you do it. Cover your long term investments first, have money to spend by getting a good education and a good job. It takes hard work and patience.

Oh, I also forgot to say.... make sure your wife's wishes are covered first, or you'll get too much heartache when you spend that kind of money on yourself. We've spent about four times that much on her stuff -- vacations, decorating the house, and so on. My turn now.

The quicker way to do it is to start a business and work hard at it for about ten years. You have to love what you do, work long hours for next to nothing for several years, hire the right people, and have a solid business plan, but at the end, you will be rich if you did it right and you could potentially get a dream system in five to ten years after school instead of 20 or more years.

Hope that helped.

-Bolas



Or you could be 19, with a GED, and still be able to afford a $3000 computer every two years! The trick is to not be married.
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April 4, 2010 2:57:26 PM

LOL so true!! I could be buying a $20k computer if I wasn't married. I lived a very frugal lifestyle when I was single. I always had a roommate instead of renting my own apartment. Typically I would just rent a room out of someone else's house. I was paying $500 a month for rent when others were paying $1600 a month for their own 2BR apartment with no roommate.

If I was single, I would not have such a nice house. I would still be renting something cheap and sharing the expenses of the rent with a roommate or two. Which would leave me with a huge amount of discretionary cash.
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April 4, 2010 3:18:02 PM

It's true marriage will make you fat and poor. The child makes your finances even worse :) . But I wouldn't change it for the world.


And honestly if you need help with a $7,000 build then put the keyboard down and walk away. Besides recommendations on which specific monitors or speaker sets you should know what you pretty much want.

But if it were me I would never spend that much. a $7,000 system would be out dated in a year because you'd simply want more as soon as the latest cpu or HD comes out.
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April 4, 2010 9:42:50 PM

Bolas, Where did you score the NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK-R at such a great price? Thanks, Mark
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April 4, 2010 11:40:56 PM

fastx21 said:
It's true marriage will make you fat and poor. The child makes your finances even worse :) . But I wouldn't change it for the world.


And honestly if you need help with a $7,000 build then put the keyboard down and walk away. Besides recommendations on which specific monitors or speaker sets you should know what you pretty much want.

But if it were me I would never spend that much. a $7,000 system would be out dated in a year because you'd simply want more as soon as the latest cpu or HD comes out.



Well if you spent say $5000, and then saved the rest for when new graphics cards came out, you'd stay at the top for a while. I don't see the i7 980X getting surpassed any time soon, so the graphics card is all you would have to upgrade.
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April 5, 2010 3:08:50 AM

DraconianGamer said:
Well if you spent say $5000, and then saved the rest for when new graphics cards came out, you'd stay at the top for a while. I don't see the i7 980X getting surpassed any time soon, so the graphics card is all you would have to upgrade.


I spent $2000 on the monitors, $5000 on the computer, including one graphics card. I didn't go crazy on graphics cards this time (no triple or quad processor action), with the idea to upgrade the cards in a year or so.

Computer purchases add up FAST!! I thought I would have some more wiggle room with a $7k budget, but really I should have spent even more time planning, I think.

I also cut back on what I wanted for the motherboard, processor(s), boot drive, and case.

If I had more money in the budget, I would have gone for possibly the EVGA Classified SR-2 with dual 6-core gulftown Xeon cpu's, but that money added up quite fast and I would not have been able to get much in the way of monitors.

I wanted to get a pair of SSD's in RAID-0, and probably the SATA 6Gb/s variety, but the next gen of SSD's should provide much more storage at about the same price, so I'll wait to upgrade until Christmas or later, and then move this SSD to my old laptop to speed it up a bit.

Case, I wanted to get a Murdermod case for $1500, but no way I could fit that in the budget. I would have had to sacrifice the cpu and a bunch of the other stuff as well. I splurged a bit on the power supply so that I would have one that would last through my next couple builds, I probably should have cut back on that and gone with a bigger case, I'm having trouble fitting in all the water cooling that I want. Maybe some mods or an external radiator will do the trick *shrug*.
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April 5, 2010 3:09:53 AM

uebamakoto said:
Bolas, Where did you score the NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK-R at such a great price? Thanks, Mark


I got them from NEC directly, from their web site http://www.necdisplay.com/
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April 10, 2010 2:28:16 PM

Bolas said:
I got them from NEC directly, from their web site http://www.necdisplay.com/


Thanks for the info. They don't seem to have them for sale right now. They look like great monitors, I'll watch for them.
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April 11, 2010 5:49:18 AM

MothMusic said:
Man, I was just about to put together a real build that probably would have looked similar to that but you beat me to it. Oh well.

Or, he can get 194 Sempron 140s with $7000. You could like, build a litttle mini castle with the packaging or something.




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