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December 17, 2009 6:52:27 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: (Christmas) BUDGET RANGE: ($500)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Using Internet, multimedia

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Printer, Harddrive, PSU? (400w) Monitor Optical Drive

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, amazon.com

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: None

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe, Sli/Crossfire: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1600x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Please include the purchase of Windows 7 Home edition. I don't care about noise, but I want a case large enough to allow for some expansion including a TV Tuner. The games I plan to run Eve Online, and maybe some Battlefield on medium settings. I am not looking for Eye candy at this price, just a good quality PC. I am currently looking at the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , but I want to see if I can get a better one for the price.

More about : 500 gaming

December 17, 2009 7:05:36 PM

look at these two combos. they are 150$ over your budget, but it would totally be worth it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and if you dont feel like that, then get this instead of the first combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i think the first group is way more worth it than the second, and the 500 dollar budget is slightly hard to meet for a gaming computer, but those are some excellent choices.
December 17, 2009 8:15:21 PM


Everything about the build you were looking at was okay, but that pathetic little gpu, the G210, will probably choke playing modern games at a 1600 res. Plus, if that tv tuner requires a pci slot, I don't know how you would fit it in that case.


AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$57 -Freeshipping


ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$62


Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model CT25664BA1067 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$78 for two sticks


APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55 -Freeshipping


Palit NE3TS25NFHD52 GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110


LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDP118-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$18


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$110 -Free Shipping

Total = $515
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December 17, 2009 8:21:03 PM

not to be mean, but did you even read his question. he said he didn't need an optical drive, or hdd, but nice build anyway, guess that just makes it cheaper :)  but the 5750 would beat the 250 anyday
December 17, 2009 8:42:56 PM

ares1214 said:
not to be mean, but did you even read his question. he said he didn't need an optical drive, or hdd, but nice build anyway, guess that just makes it cheaper :)  but the 5750 would beat the 250 anyday


Crap, I didn't notice that. (I always do that!) Oh well...
December 17, 2009 8:51:58 PM

ares1214 said:
not to be mean, but did you even read his question. he said he didn't need an optical drive, or hdd, but nice build anyway, guess that just makes it cheaper :)  but the 5750 would beat the 250 anyday


Actually the 5750 isn't signifcantlly more powerful than a 250 at all. Your just paying $30 for %7 increase in performance. Plus a lot of games are "tuned" for nVidia gpus, you will actually get better performance from a 250, than a 5750 in a lot of games. And your build was $150 over budget! I guess it was you who didn't read his question! :kaola: 

December 17, 2009 9:12:24 PM

Great build by Moth. Going off his build's numbers, its $442 without the HD and opt. drive. From there, you can spend a bit more on your case

+$15 would give you some options:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now $457. You can opt for a better cpu or gpu from here:
This 5770 has a nice $10 off promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or a x2 550. Maybe the unlocked multiplier will change your overclocking preference from "maybe" to heck yes!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


EDIT: Just caught your PSU. What brand? May or may not be able to handle a 5770, even though it is energy efficient.
December 17, 2009 9:24:43 PM

first off, a 400 watt psu wont be able to handle a 250, but it will handle a 5750, or 5770. second of all, according to toms,

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/273859-33-5750

the 5750 is a way better buy as it is cheaper, and outperforms it, and uses less energy, and is more futureproof.
December 17, 2009 9:34:26 PM

ares1214 said:
first off, a 400 watt psu wont be able to handle a 250, but it will handle a 5750, or 5770. second of all, according to toms,

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/273859-33-5750

the 5750 is a way better buy as it is cheaper, and outperforms it, and uses less energy, and is more futureproof.


The cheapest 5750 on Newegg if $140, the 250 is $113. Both cards recommend a 450w or greater psu. And that forum was useless, and offered nothing but opinions from the posters on there.

5750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
450 Watt or greater power supply
$139.99

GTS 250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Minimum 450W or greater system power supply
$112.99
Green power saving edition, lower power consumption version

Like I said before, both cards are essentially the same, just that the 250 is cheaper.
December 17, 2009 9:45:30 PM

the card in my combo costs 124.99. the average cost of a 250 is 130-150. that card is bad made by a company that nobody has heard about, with pretty bad reviews. mine is cheaper, or about the same, faster by a little, takes up less power (go to the newegg wattage calculator if you dont believe me) is more futureproof, and well thats it :) 
December 17, 2009 9:50:40 PM

vznoobie12 said:
Great build by Moth. Going off his build's numbers, its $442 without the HD and opt. drive. From there, you can spend a bit more on your case

+$15 would give you some options:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now $457. You can opt for a better cpu or gpu from here:
This 5770 has a nice $10 off promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or a x2 550. Maybe the unlocked multiplier will change your overclocking preference from "maybe" to heck yes!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


EDIT: Just caught your PSU. What brand? May or may not be able to handle a 5770, even though it is energy efficient.


Well what do you think of a 424/5770 $520? Or a 550/250 for $484? Or 425/250 $465 and leave the rest for a new psu?
December 17, 2009 10:19:18 PM

ares1214 said:
the card in my combo costs 124.99. the average cost of a 250 is 130-150. that card is bad made by a company that nobody has heard about, with pretty bad reviews. mine is cheaper, or about the same, faster by a little, takes up less power (go to the newegg wattage calculator if you dont believe me) is more futureproof, and well thats it :) 


1. We are not talking about the average costs, we are talking about $113. So no, at $125 the 5750 is not the same price as the 250 that I linked to.

2. How are two reviews from two random people for a single gpu representative of an entire company that has been around since 1988? And that specific gpu has been recommended by veteran members on these forum numerous times.

3. And specifically what reviews? Your not talking about the two Newegg reviews are you? Because those are absolutely worthless. They are not competent in depth technical reviews made by a respected professional. Anyone can post anything there. I could go on there and say that the gpu ate my dog if I wanted to. In fact those two reviews only complained of how the plastic felt , and that it required two connectors, hardly world ending stuff.

4. NOTE:
The PSU Wattage we recommend only gives you a general idea on what to consider while selecting a power supply.


Psu calc on Newegg doesn't even allow you to choose specific gpus, cpus, ram, from certain brands or models. Everything on there is so vague that its impossible to get specfic info about which gpu uses more juice. Which makes it inappropriate for direct comparison.
December 17, 2009 10:28:05 PM

one, im saying the vid card doesn't look quality because it is from a less respected company. those two reviews show it isnt the best card in the world either, but you are right and i dont put much weight on them. secondly, no matter how you argue, the 5750 takes up less power than a 65 nm 250 that uses 2 power connectors, which i doubt his psu has. also, the cost is so close, that it really doesn't matter, and the 5750 still is a more powerful video card.
December 17, 2009 10:55:51 PM

ares1214 said:
one, im saying the vid card doesn't look quality because it is from a less respected company. those two reviews show it isnt the best card in the world either, but you are right and i dont put much weight on them. secondly, no matter how you argue, the 5750 takes up less power than a 65 nm 250 that uses 2 power connectors, which i doubt his psu has. also, the cost is so close, that it really doesn't matter, and the 5750 still is a more powerful video card.


It probably does use a bit more power, but its not a standard 250, its a special energy saving version. When it comes to budget builds, $10 does matter. With an extra ten bucks you can bump up the cpu, or get a bigger hdd or whatever. The 5750 barely squeaks past the 250 in strength, and in alot of games is actually a bit weaker:









And at idle, the 250 only sips energy:
December 17, 2009 11:05:42 PM

wow we are arguing over 10$, 15 watts and 3 percent performance increases. i still think a 400 watt psu doesn't have 2 6 pin power connections, automatically getting rid of the 250, so either one is good :) 
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