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December 18, 2009 8:41:41 PM

Hey, I am ordering a computer sometime from tomorrow till after Christmas depending on the information I get. I built a barebones computer and this is the link to the final product.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2804...

The only change is that I am ordering a radeon 4850 off newegg for cheaper. My question is for a computer that's roughly 600-700 dollars, is there anything I should change. I don't know much about mobo's but I was considering an additional $26 or so to upg to the gigabyte one. Any help would be appreciated, and I hear this video card is awesome so I wanted to be sure it would run nice. My monitor is a 20 inch lcd max resolution 1980-1250 or something, but I plan on getting a nicer one and potentially crossfire'ing (?) with another radeon 4850 sometime in the future. Thanks so much for the help!! Happy holidays to all

Scott M
December 18, 2009 8:46:44 PM

Shcotttty said:
Hey, I am ordering a computer sometime from tomorrow till after Christmas depending on the information I get. I built a barebones computer and this is the link to the final product.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2804...

The only change is that I am ordering a radeon 4850 off newegg for cheaper. My question is for a computer that's roughly 600-700 dollars, is there anything I should change. I don't know much about mobo's but I was considering an additional $26 or so to upg to the gigabyte one. Any help would be appreciated, and I hear this video card is awesome so I wanted to be sure it would run nice. My monitor is a 20 inch lcd max resolution 1980-1250 or something, but I plan on getting a nicer one and potentially crossfire'ing (?) with another radeon 4850 sometime in the future. Thanks so much for the help!! Happy holidays to all

Scott M


I would be careful about that psu, and only 2gb for modern gaming? Your games will crash if you run out of ram. And at a 1900 res, your going to want a 5770 or a 4870 to play modern games at high settings.

I wouldn't trust that psu for cross firing 4850s.
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December 18, 2009 8:53:45 PM

Thanks! This is why I posted here, i'm sort of a noob when it comes to hardware. So if I upg to 4gb of ddr3 (i can always upg later which I was taking into consideration, I want this to be as cheap as possible for now with the ability to upg later) and upg my pcu to what 650? I am currently running a dell from 2004, I am way into gaming so I want my games to run smooth and be enjoyable, but i'm not a HARDCORE gamer where I need things to be incredible, esp with a $600-700 budget. Also, just wanted to be sure that this computer comes ready to go (bios and drivers installed, etc). I have windows 7 ready to go. Thanks again in advance!
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December 18, 2009 8:57:54 PM

Oh yeah by the way, I don't plan on crossfiring for a while, at least a year or so id assume. So with that in mind, is it ok to leave the psu where it is and just up the ram? Also, keeping in mind the budget as the video card could easily trump all other aspects of the computer, is the 4850 good for avg setting gaming with this setup? From what I read it outperforms the GeForge9800 or whichever it's competitor is. I don't know how reliable it was but I do remember it saying it had very high GPU
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December 18, 2009 9:37:54 PM

Shcotttty said:
Thanks! This is why I posted here, i'm sort of a noob when it comes to hardware. So if I upg to 4gb of ddr3 (i can always upg later which I was taking into consideration, I want this to be as cheap as possible for now with the ability to upg later) and upg my pcu to what 650? I am currently running a dell from 2004, I am way into gaming so I want my games to run smooth and be enjoyable, but i'm not a HARDCORE gamer where I need things to be incredible, esp with a $600-700 budget. Also, just wanted to be sure that this computer comes ready to go (bios and drivers installed, etc). I have windows 7 ready to go. Thanks again in advance!


Would you mind building your own pc? Because if so, you can get a rig that will play modern games at maximum settings for under $600 easily.
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December 18, 2009 10:25:12 PM

I really didn't want to to worry about building it. That's why I ended up choosing the barebone option because I can customize the pieces I want. I don't know how to build computers and I would need to find/pay someone to put it all together. To me, the hassle free option is worth the money. Thanks for the suggestion.
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January 30, 2010 3:03:08 AM

jobieadobe said:
For anyone else interested in an up to date guide to building a gaming rig for $600 check out The Best Gaming Computer You Can Build for $600 As of January 28, 2010 at my site:

http://technomaniac.comze.com/


This thread is a month old, you do know that right? Plus the op said he didn't want to build his own pc

And please don't spam your nonsense here. The Homebuilt forum already have plenty of how to guides already:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/269162-31-recommended...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choos...

Plus the build you have there reeks amateur. You went with DDR2 which is a dead end. You recommended a 965 for a budget gaming build. You choose an $80 corsair psu instead of cheaper, equivelent Antec/OCz power supplies. You didn't include a hdd, or a disk drive either.

1. Why in the world did you choose a 965 for a budget gaming rig? The 965 is just an overclocked, overpriced 955 and is geared towards video editing/photoshop. Second, if your goal was to build a video game pc then you should have spent the extra cash on a stronger gpu. A strong gpu will provide way more fps than a strong cpu. Third, its just a complete waste of budget. An Athlon II x4 or a Phenom II x2 would do just as well in the majority of games as a 965 and it would save alot of cash too.

2. DDR2 is on its way out, so building a system with that obsolete memory is nonsense. In a few years DDR2 will be very expensive making difficult to upgrade your ram. You wouldn't be able to use any new AM3 cpu either, shutting down any future cpu upgrades. Plus the ram you choose was $85 for 4gigs of DDR2. 4 gigs of DDR3 can be found for less.

3. That Corsair psu is way over priced. Your just paying more cash just for the brand name. That just reveals how naive that guide is. Antec and OCz offer the same quality but a much lower price. For example:

Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
$59.99 - Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4. If you want to give advice, just post your recommended build here on a new thread and see if the forum veterans approve of your build. But don't use this forum as vehicle to increase your website's page views.
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February 4, 2010 8:50:03 PM

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MothMusic said:
This thread is a month old, you do know that right? Yes I doPlus the op said he didn't want to build his own pcThat is why I prefaced with "For anyone else interested"

And please don't spam your nonsensein your opinion here. The Homebuilt forum already have plenty of how to guides already:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/269162-31-recommended...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choos...

Plus the build you have there reeks amateur.In your opionion You went with DDR2which ended up being more inexpensive when you calculate in the motherboard which is a dead end.If you had read my blog post in its entirety your would have read that this is a value build intended to be used for about 2 years. It was never intended for upgradability. Altho if you came across another 5770 sometime down the road to run cross fire that would be a better upgrade option than more RAM. You recommended a 965 for a budget gaming build.Yes I did. The combo I found on newegg was super cheap. You choose an $80 corsair psu instead of cheaper, equivelent Antec/OCz power supplies.As of that date it was $80 yes but with a $20 mail in rebate (resulting in a $60 in the long run). So it fit within my $600 budget, without rebates even included. What is it to you? The power supply your suggested is good too, but why act like such a jerk about it? You didn't include a hdd, or a disk drive either. Again I stated in my guide that most probably already have them and if not they should be added. Learn to read.

1. Why in the world did you choose a 965 for a budget gaming rig?It was included in an inexpensive combo.The 965 is just an overclocked, overpriced 955 and is geared towards video editing/photoshop. Second, if your goal was to build a video game pc then you should have spent the extra cash on a stronger gpu. A strong gpu will provide way more fps than a strong cpu.Third, its just a complete waste of budget. An Athlon II x4 or a Phenom II x2 would do just as well in the majority of games as a 965 and it would save alot of cash too.a "majority" is right but Crysis requires a lot of CPU power. This system is built to run a majority of titles AND Crysis at low resolution.

2. DDR2 is on its way out, so building a system with that obsolete memory is nonsense. In a few yearsA few as in two? Once again I said in my post that the point is to replace the system in two years. Learn to read. DDR2 will be very expensive making difficult to upgrade your ram. You wouldn't be able to use any new AM3 cpu either, shutting down any future cpu upgrades.why upgrade what is better and cheaper to replace in two years? Plus the ram you choose was $85 for 4gigs of DDR2. 4 gigs of DDR3 can be found for less.Where? The cheapest 4GB(2GB x2) of DDR3 on newegg is $85. Are you just making things up as you go or what?

3. That Corsair psu is way over priced.$80 with a $20 rebate at the time is not bad of a price for a good power supply and it has a 5 year warranty. Hardly what I would call "way overpriced". Tom's includes power supplies at or around $80. Maybe you should flame them as well? Your just paying more cash just for the brand name.It fits within my price range. I did not claim it was the cheapest computer that will play a video game.That just reveals how naive that guide is. Antec and OCz offer the same quality but a much lower price.For one my power supply has 2 more years warranty than the one you suggested. How's that for longevity? For example:
http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/17-371-030-TS?$S180W$
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
$59.99 - Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4. If you want to give advice, just post your recommended build here on a new thread and see if the forum veterans approve of your build. But don't use this forum as vehicle to increase your website's page views.




My counter argument:

1. You claim my build reeks amateur because it uses DDR2. Are you calling the folks at Tom's Hardware amateur? They just used DDR2 in a $700 value build here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/value-pc-build,2506... I don't see you flaming them... hmm odd.

2. The power supply is good quality and would end up being $60 in the end if purchased around the date I made the post, and fit into my $600 budget even before rebates. Your argument isn't that strong.

3. I am not using this forum as a vehicle to increase my web site's page views. I just had all the work done and I would rather link to it than repeat it all. Especially since I had pictures etc.

In conclusion: Your arguments are narrow minded( #s 1 & 3) and some totally untrue(#2). Here is a 5770 running Crysis at 40 fps(DirectX 10) with a comparable processor: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446... . And Crysis at 60 fps(DirectX 9) with a 965: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=320757... . Here is what someone could expect my build to bench at 1920x1200:

With these benches my build would run some titles better than the $650 SMB (which did better than the $700 SMB). Add $100 to my build for hard drive and optical drive and you will have a full build for $700(~$650 after rebates). The May SMB $600 PC with a single 260 (which is benches very close to a 5770) actually does better than the over clocked September SMB $650 with two 512MB 4850s at 1920x1200, high quality and 4X AA(of which most of us are going to want to play game titles with similar higher resolution and quality settings, one exception being Crysis) The May SMB still doing better than the December SMB $700 at 1920x1200 (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-gaming-pc,2424-...). This just goes to show that you can't easily predict the way a system is going to run the way you think you can. Perhaps I should have dropped $50 from the CPU and put it into the GPU to grab a 4890 instead of the 5770. Still that doesn't merit the flaming you did on me. Why don't you flame Tom's for pairing an E5300 with two 4870 512MB, which is an even odder combination!? Here is how mine would stack up against it:


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February 6, 2010 6:29:35 PM

Hey everyone who got here looking for a good $600 gaming rig, check out this build for $700 (only $619.93 after mail in rebates). It has a Radeon HD 4890 1GB so it should be a nice improvement over the $600 rig I made previously. Check it out in it's entirety at: http://technomaniac.comze.com/
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