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December 19, 2009 6:20:14 PM

Hi, I am going to be ordering my PC components on the 28th, and I really need help on one final decision, the graphics card!

If I am building this computer to last me a few years (my goal was to have a "5 year PC" for $1400 USD), what graphics card should I choose? The ATI HD 5770 or HD 4890?

My use: I am NOT a gamer. I do not see myself getting into games at all either. I am a Graphic & Multimedia design student, and that is why I want this computer (as well as just having a great performance PC too!) That being said, do I really need DirectX 11? Will it affect my usage as a Graphic & Mutlimedia designer (and overall PC user) if I get the 4890 with DirectX 10? Remember, I am trying to have this last me 5 years if possible..What should I choose? HD 4890 or HD 5770?

Please help me? Thanks so much!

Here are my specs:

-SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner

-Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

-Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

-SAMSUNG T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen HDTV Monitor

-SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W (power supply)

-OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory

-ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

-Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor

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a c 165 U Graphics card
December 19, 2009 6:38:03 PM

I'd go for the 5770, it's cool and very quiet and I'll guess the last thing you will need is a loud system distracting you-and the HD4890 is known for having a loud cooler when it's under load.
December 19, 2009 6:40:19 PM

Noise doesn't matter at all to me :)  I am building this computer to last me a few years (my goal was to have a "5 year PC" for $1400 USD), what graphics card should I choose? The ATI HD 5770 or HD 4890?

My use: I am NOT a gamer. I do not see myself getting into games at all either. I am a Graphic & Multimedia design student, and that is why I want this computer (as well as just having a great performance PC too!) That being said, do I really need DirectX 11? Will it affect my usage as a Graphic & Mutlimedia designer (and overall PC user) if I get the 4890 with DirectX 10? Remember, I am trying to have this last me 5 years if possible..What should I choose? HD 4890 or HD 5770?

That being said..Which one would you all say? I really appreciate the help! Thanks so much! :) 

Here are my specs:

-SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner

-Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

-Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

-SAMSUNG T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen HDTV Monitor

-SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W (power supply)

-OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory

-ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

-Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
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a c 165 U Graphics card
December 19, 2009 6:51:16 PM

Go for the HD4890 then, it's higher memory bandwidth may help with large, high resolution images.

EDIT: Nice build BTW:) 
December 19, 2009 7:23:45 PM

Thanks! :)  So does anyone else agree? If I am not using my PC for games, but rather graphic & multimedia design...do I need DX 11 (ati 5770)? or is it okay to go with dx 10 (and get the slightly better ati 4890)? I want this PC to last me a few years without having to upgrade if possible..

Anyone else have an opinion? Thanks again! :) 
December 19, 2009 7:34:53 PM

i think you're over-speced for a graphic and multimedia user....

don;t need that many watts,
don't even need a 5770

i'd go with 4670 or similar

save over $150 downgrading the PSU and Graphics alone
December 19, 2009 7:36:19 PM

i appreciate the input--but like i said its down to those 2 cards.

ati 4890 vs. ati 5770 (dx 10 vs dx 11, 256bit vs 128bit)

"5 year pc" is my goal if possible. graphic/multimedia design is purpose (as well as other movie viewing and overall usage)
December 19, 2009 7:38:20 PM

forgot to mention....

depends on you program but the program might not even support GPU acceleration.

also most that do are expecting workstation cards, so that's like the ati firestream line (not radeon)...one solution would be flashing you firmware on the graphics card, but not sure if you want to mess with that.

in which case the 4670 might still be overkill.
December 19, 2009 7:41:01 PM

trancetunes said:
i appreciate the input--but like i said its down to those 2 cards.

ati 4890 vs. ati 5770 (dx 10 vs dx 11, 256bit vs 128bit)

"5 year pc" is my goal if possible. graphic/multimedia design is purpose (as well as other movie viewing and overall usage)


you shouldn't think about it in that way.... because in two years the 5770 is going to be dated anyway....

instead of spending $170 on it now and using it for 5 years

spend $50 on a 4650
then in 2.5 years spend $50 on a HD6650 and it'll probably topple the HD5770

and you'd still save yourself $70

but if you still insist on the HD 57xx series go with the HD5750
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SOX9W2?ie=UTF8&tag=slickdealssd-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002SOX9W2

75% of the price of a HD5770 but 90% of the performance, and it has all the same exact features just a slightly slower clock speed
a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2009 7:57:34 PM

I keep seeing "5 year futureproof" but there are no directions to guarantee this. In 5 years, everyone might be using ssd's ? If your not a gamer, listen to the advice and put the money saved on buying a excellent 2d , entry level 3d card. Which ATI makes. Put that 100 dollars to a blu ray drive. You can wow yourself and others buy playing Terminator on that 24inch screen.
December 19, 2009 8:12:14 PM

lol...okay i really do appreciate everyone effort to help me..but once again..

IT IS BETWEEN: ATI 4890 OR ATI 5770.

hehe and i am not trying to come off snobbish or anything! please dont take it that way :)  i appreciate the help...so everyone, please, down to those 2 cards..as a graphic/multimedia designer will i need DX 11? someone told me that dx9 to dx10 was a huge leap...is the same true for dx11 now? or is it unnecessary for dx11?

4890 and 5770 are same except:

4890-256bit, dx10
5770-128bit, dx11

what to do? help! :) 
a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2009 8:23:30 PM

trancetunes said:
lol...okay i really do appreciate everyone effort to help me..but once again..

IT IS BETWEEN: ATI 4890 OR ATI 5770.

hehe and i am not trying to come off snobbish or anything! please dont take it that way :)  i appreciate the help...so everyone, please, down to those 2 cards..as a graphic/multimedia designer will i need DX 11? someone told me that dx9 to dx10 was a huge leap...is the same true for dx11 now? or is it unnecessary for dx11?

4890 and 5770 are same except:

4890-256bit, dx10
5770-128bit, dx11

what to do? help! :) 


What to do? How hard can this decision be ? Your not going to use the gaming aspect of the card. The new 5770 has dx11 and is actually cheaper, and your having a conundrum ?
Just get the new model.
December 19, 2009 8:25:45 PM

well, i am torn between the 2 because the 4890 has 256bit and is slightly better in performance...so if dx11 doesn't matter, i want to go with the better gfx card :) 

also, if i am using windows 7 with the 4890, will it have dx 11 anyway??
December 19, 2009 8:45:47 PM

You keep insisting on one of those two cards, but you won't say why. You say you won't use it for gaming, so why do you insist on talking about gaming performance? Design and editing software will use NONE of those gaming optimized cards potential. The only possible thing you could use from either of those cards is the eyefinity to run 3 monitors from one card, but if you don't intend to do that, just like everyone has already told you, you are wasting money. NEVER spend more than $50 for a graphics card in a design/editing build. You should save that money and put it to upgrading to 12gb of Ram, which you CAN use. I have built many design computers using cheap graphics cards, and not one customer has ever come back to upgrade the graphics card, but if they didn't max out the memory they DO come back for that. Not trying to be a jerk, but you are being really stubborn and insisting on bad advice, which we don't want to give on these forums.
December 19, 2009 8:54:01 PM

bad advice? listen, the question is simple...just answer the question and it will HELP me..it wont be bad advice..i am narrowing it down to these cards because it fits MY BUDGET. i know you aren't me, and thats fine..but that is why this is my computer..and i need help between THESE 2 CARDS. :p  i do appreciate your input and theres no hard feelings..seriously, thank you :) 

anyone/everyone please help me between the 2 cards?? will the 4890 have directX 11 if i install windows 7 (which i plan on doing)? and if so will it have all the features of directx 11? please continue to help! thank you so much :) 

ati 4890-256bit, 1gb ram, directx 10
ati 5770-128bit, 1gb ram, directx 11

what to do?
December 19, 2009 8:56:04 PM

yea get a 4670 and with the $100 saved get another 6gb of ram and think about getting a cooler so you can overclock the cpu. This'll be much better for design then then a higher end graphic card.

Edit: get the 4890 then.
December 19, 2009 9:02:31 PM

trancetunes said:
bad advice? listen, the question is simple...just answer the question and it will HELP me..it wont be bad advice..i am narrowing it down to these cards because it fits MY BUDGET. i know you aren't me, and thats fine..but that is why this is my computer..and i need help between THESE 2 CARDS. :p  i do appreciate your input and theres no hard feelings..seriously, thank you :) 

anyone/everyone please help me between the 2 cards?? will the 4890 have directX 11 if i install windows 7 (which i plan on doing)? and if so will it have all the features of directx 11? please continue to help! thank you so much :) 

ati 4890-256bit, 1gb ram, directx 10
ati 5770-128bit, 1gb ram, directx 11

what to do?



Okay, I give up. Since DX11 only matters in gaming, then you should go with the most powerful card, which is the 4890, but the most powerful card only matters in gaming, so you should go with the card with the most features, which is the 5770, but since those features only matter for gaming, you should go with the card which has the most power, which is the 4890, but since that only matters in gaming you should go with the card that has the most future potential, which is the 5770, but since that future potential only matters for gaming, you should go with the card with the most graphics power, which is the 4890..................
December 19, 2009 9:11:34 PM

Thanks imp! I won't be overclocking at all because I really am not that good with that type of stuff..I don't want to mess around with it because I am spending 1400 dollars on this! I am fine with running everything "stock".. :p 

Belia--Will I even realize the difference between the 4890 and 5770? If not, I will just get the 5770..Do you think I will be able to tell the difference in performance since I will be doing graphic/multimedia design? I won't be doing any gaming (rarely if at all). If you are saying I really will not be able to notice a difference between those cards, I will go for the 5770..

Anyone/Everyone please continue to help me on this if you can...Once again, will I even realize the difference between the 4890 and 5770? If not, I will just get the 5770..Do you think I will be able to tell the difference in performance since I will be doing graphic/multimedia design? I won't be doing any gaming (rarely if at all). If you are saying I really will not be able to notice a difference between those cards, I will go for the 5770..

Here are my specs so far:

-SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner

-Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

-Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

-SAMSUNG T240HD Rose-Black 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen HDTV Monitor

-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W (power supply)

-OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory

-ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

-Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
December 19, 2009 9:30:07 PM

No, you will not notice a difference between a $50 card and a $600 card for what you are doing...that is what we've been trying to say. You are looking at cards optimized for gaming, but you are not going to be gaming, so it doesn't make much sense. A simple $50 card will be more than futureproof for what you are doing, and it will give you room in your budget to buy something that will make a huge difference for what you are doing - MORE RAM.
You haven't been specific on what programs you use, but for the majority of editing programs the build priority is something like this...CPU speed/CPU cores/Amount of memory/ Memory speed/HDD speed/HDD storage/Monitor/Optical drive (most people in this field do lots of burning, so need a good fast DVD burner/Video Card/

If you are doing some detailed CAD work, 3D rendering/ray tracing, medical imaging or outputting to computer controlled machine, a workstation level graphics card can make a difference....but the ones that make a real difference cost more by themselves than your entire budget.
December 19, 2009 9:37:16 PM

Alright, for now I am deciding on the 5770 then...

BTW, I also appreciate your input about the memory. However, just as you are saying my graphics card is over doing it--I really feel 12 GB RAM is over doing it too! :p 
December 19, 2009 9:42:47 PM

Quick question--If I AM a gamer, and I plan on playing games..which one is better?

5770 or 4890?

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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 19, 2009 9:46:27 PM
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You came here to get advice from people who know what they are talking about. Ignoring it is a mistake. You should at most be considering an HD4650/GT 220.
If you absolutely insist on one of those 2 cards for unexplainable reasons then get the HD5770 as it is cheaper, smaller, cooler, uses a lot less power and supports 3 monitors. You will notice no difference in performance between it and the HD4890. Also maybe try to get into gaming so the extra $100+ isn't a total waste.
December 19, 2009 10:06:39 PM

Yea, that's the thing jyjjy, I just might be tempted to try a couple games on this PC..Since I will have the ability, I might want to try some nice racing games (I am not a huge gamer at all, but I always loved racing games).

As far as me spending this money on the graphics card (even if I don't try games), I had a budget of about 200 dollars for a graphics card after everything else was picked out. As far as I am concerned, I want the best graphics card I can get for that money. If I don't play games, I can easily say this PC really will last me 5 years, which was my original goal. A 5 year PC for $1400. OK, maybe I will have to add more RAM down the road. That's about it though as far as I can see. If I don't plan on becoming a gamer, at least this graphics card will last me in Graphic/Multimedia design for a few years though.

I want to thank everyone for their input. It was entertaining and insightful! :) 
December 19, 2009 10:15:48 PM

have you considered the 4870? Cheaper then both those cards and has more power than the 5770. But if you honestly dont want to game I change my vote to the 5770. eyefinity is an option and itll be more future friendly I guess. If you truly want it to last 5 years, think about getting an ssd and buy this monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....

Also pick up this hdd instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And if you can muster out more money this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

sata 6.0 and usb 3.0 will definatley allow you to have an extra couple of years!
a c 376 U Graphics card
December 19, 2009 10:25:23 PM

Well, even if you want the computer to last 5 years it doesn't matter. Games will over time require better cards. 2D editing/design will not require more graphical power in the future so for those purposes you don't need to to worry about having to replace the card.
But for gaming I would still get the HD5770 over the HD4890 myself. The price/features/power efficiency it offers more than offset the difference in performance imo.
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