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December 20, 2009 8:14:45 PM

Specs:
Athlon II X2 running at 3.5 ghz
Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H

OK so I'm upgrading my Graphics Card I want to spend no more than 140$ it needs to have a HDMI port so I can hook it up to my HD TV and it needs to have a DVI or VGA port too. I'm hoping to get a card that has directx 11 and probably 1 gig of memory since I'm going to be hooking it up to my hd tv from time to time to play games with my 360 controller on it.

So this is the card I've picked out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Any opinions or thoughts on this? Can anyone recommend a better card or is this a good card.

Last can someone what's the difference between 128-bit and 256-bit when it comes to graphics cards.

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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2009 8:23:49 PM

overbound said:
Specs:
Athlon II X2 running at 3.5 ghz
Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H

OK so I'm upgrading my Graphics Card I want to spend no more than 140$ it needs to have a HDMI port so I can hook it up to my HD TV and it needs to have a DVI or VGA port too. I'm hoping to get a card that has directx 11 and probably 1 gig of memory since I'm going to be hooking it up to my hd tv from time to time to play games with my 360 controller on it.

So this is the card I've picked out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Any opinions or thoughts on this? Can anyone recommend a better card or is this a good card.

Last can someone what's the difference between 128-bit and 256-bit when it comes to graphics cards.


It's slightly better then an HD 4850, and power consumption on it is ridiculously low. It's a great card and should be able to get you mid-high settings with 2x-4x AA, depending on resolution. (I Have an HD 4850 overclocked, and I can do high settings+AA on 1920x1080 that's with a 3.6 ghz Phenom II 550 x2)

Differences between 128-bit and 256-bit memory bus are overhead for overclocking, mainly.
It also limits some eye candy, but in benchmarks it's shown that the HD 5700s bit memory is not a concern if your not overclocking.
Bandwidth on the memory is usually determined by bit bus* clock. Low bit gives lower bandwidth giving you less room for overclocking.
It's a great buy, and I would recommend it.
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December 20, 2009 8:43:39 PM

Doesn't look like New egg has any 5750 with 256-bit. I do overclock some but just with the tuner CCC provides and that's no big deal of course.

Maybe I'll go with this Asus 5750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

it only uses one slot and that's good I have a Micro ATX board. It also is supposed to run cooler?
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2009 9:21:44 PM

overbound said:
Doesn't look like New egg has any 5750 with 256-bit. I do overclock some but just with the tuner CCC provides and that's no big deal of course.

Maybe I'll go with this Asus 5750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

it only uses one slot and that's good I have a Micro ATX board. It also is supposed to run cooler?


That GPU will take 2 slots as the cooler will take up the second slot in space but won't use the 2nd expansion slot but will still make it unusable... Also the 5700 comes in 128 bit bus only regardless of manufacturer.. Asus also comes with 3 years warranty so I suppose that's good.
CCC is great to use for slight overclocking, so good luck.

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December 21, 2009 7:49:17 PM

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December 22, 2009 3:42:35 AM

Don't worry AsAnAtheist I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 3:50:37 AM

The HD57xx card have a 128 bit bus but they also use DDR5 ram which puts the memory bandwidth on par with 256 bit DDR3 cards.
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December 22, 2009 3:09:32 PM

You say that you want hdmi out so you can hook up your HDTV..does your tv have a VGA computer input? Just a friendly tip from experience i purchased an hdmi cable and adapter (dvi to hdmi) so i could connect my GTS 250 to my 32" 1080p TV and the picture was very dissapointing. Just last week i tested running a vga cable (dvi to vga) to the PC input on the TV. The picture quality has improved dramatically and yes you can still run 1920x1080 with a vga cable. Before you decide HDMI is going to give you a better picture test the VGA input if you have it...the TV should give you a better picture since it was designed to connect your computer through this input.



i7 920 2.6 (OC @ 4.2)
MSI X58 Platinum SLI LGA 1366
3GB OCZ (OC @ 1600MHz 7-7-7-20)
BFG GTS 250 OC
32" 1080p and 17" Sony LCD

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a b U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 7:48:23 PM

jyjjy said:
The HD57xx card have a 128 bit bus but they also use DDR5 ram which puts the memory bandwidth on par with 256 bit DDR3 cards.


HD 4870 with GDDR5 at 256 bit=115.2GB/s
HD 5770 with GDDR5 at 128 bit= 76.3~ Gb/s

You can't compare GDDR3 vs GDDR5, really it's unfair. Compare it to a GDDR5 card to another GDDR5 card if you want to compare such specific details.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 5:35:26 AM

It's as unfair as comparing a 256 bit bus to a 128 bit bus which is what the OP was asking about. The kind of ram is just as important as the bus width.
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a b U Graphics card
December 24, 2009 12:46:22 AM

eh he wasnt comparing the bit bus, he was asking the difference between the two.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 24, 2009 7:17:07 AM

How does comparing and "asking the difference" mean something different
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a b U Graphics card
December 24, 2009 4:25:47 PM

Comparing means pitting one product against another with features they share and don't share. Asking the difference only asking for what is different about them, not pitting them against each other.

For example a comparison from HD 4870 with GDDR5, and a HD 5770 with GDDR5 in terms of memory would be:
HD 4870 has 256 bit bus, allowing for more bandwidth as well as overclocking head room.

Asking differences between the two listed above would be: All you do is list the features that are not shared without using vocabulary that puts them apart.
HD 4870 has 256 bit bus, 100~Gb/s bandwidth, DX 10.1 support, etc
HD 5770 has 128 bit bus, 70~Gb/s bandwidth, DX 11 support, etc.

Compare:
2 a : to examine the character or qualities of especially in order to discover resemblances or differences

Difference:
4 : the degree or amount by which things differ in quantity or measure
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 24, 2009 6:42:02 PM

This truly subtle yet clearly important semantic difference aside the guy did ask about the HD5750, a card that is on the same performance level as the HD4850 and GTS 250. Both of those use DDR3 and have 256-bit buses. That 128-bit + DDR5 actually has slightly better bandwidth than 256-bit + DDR3 despite the smaller bus was totally relevant which is why I presented the information. Certainly more relevant than the respective bandwidths of the HD5770 vs HD4870 despite your personal determination of what is "fair" to "compare." :p 
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December 26, 2009 5:19:49 PM

Um if anyone is interested I've got the card and maxed out ATI Overdrive GPU: 870 mhz and the Memory Clock is at 1430 mhz. The temperature hovers just under 70C and I think I'm going to keep going.
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December 26, 2009 5:21:06 PM

The card is the Asus EAh5750 Formula for those just joining us.
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