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December 21, 2009 11:20:55 PM

Hey guys, I've decided to build a new AMD Gaming Rig. Bellow are the parts that I have chosen so far. Please give me some feedback as to what you guys think. Thanks a lot :) 

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932
Optical Drive: LG GH24LS50
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 750 GB
Memory: Need Help Choosing (4 GB kit)
Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70
Power Supply: Corsair 750TX
Video Card: Also need help choosing

Without the video card and memory, this system costs about $740 Canadian. I'd like to keep this system under $1000. Please critique and recommend. Many thanks and happy holidays.

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December 21, 2009 11:34:18 PM

Swap the 750GB caviar black for a samsung F3 500GB or 1TB, it has 500GB platters and performs better than the 300GB VRaptor for sequential transfer rates and is probably only marginally more for 1TB than the 750GB.

I would also suggest dropping down to a 955 and bumping the multiplier up yourself, it will save you a bit, and drop the 790FX board down to a 790GX board unless you plan to do trifire(unlikely) as there is very little performance hit with 8x/8x CF vs 16x/16x CF.


What resolution will you be running at? With your budget and depending on availability i would suggest either a 4890 or a 5770, the 5770 offers you DX11 support at the expense of lower performance.
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December 21, 2009 11:36:28 PM

hunter315 said:
Swap the 750GB caviar black for a samsung F3 500GB or 1TB, it has 500GB platters and performs better than the 300GB VRaptor for sequential transfer rates and is probably only marginally more for 1TB than the 750GB.

I would also suggest dropping down to a 955 and bumping the multiplier up yourself, it will save you a bit, and drop the 790FX board down to a 790GX board unless you plan to do trifire(unlikely) as there is very little performance hit with 8x/8x CF vs 16x/16x CF.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/W/K/225380/original/PCI%20Express%20Scaling.png

What resolution will you be running at? With your budget and depending on availability i would suggest either a 4890 or a 5770, the 5770 offers you DX11 support at the expense of lower performance.

I should be running at 1920x1080. I'll be getting a 1080p LCD monitor
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December 22, 2009 7:22:27 PM

I think this would be a good mobo to go down to DFI LANParty DK 790FXB-M3H5 AM3 $120, saving you around $45. And if you save about $20 getting the 955 vs the 965, that will give $65 more room to get the following:
XFX HD-577A-ZNDC Radeon HD 5770 1GB XXX Edition $212 Which should make it easy enough to add another one later when you have more money + need to.
Either of these if you're willing to chase rebates and fiddle around with them to get them to work at the rated speed on the DFI mobo:
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 OCZ3G16004GK CL8 1.9V $115 - $20 MIR
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 OCZ3G1600LV4GK CL8 1.65V $130 - $30 MIR
This if you don't want to chase rebates or have to adjust it. G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 F3-10666CL8D-4GBRM CL8 1.5V $98 You should be looking for RAM that has low latency and low voltage.
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December 22, 2009 8:19:07 PM

I am looking at the same upgrade myself. After reading forums, specs and reviews, I'm going with the 955, as it is cheaper [$169.99 vs 189.99 @ tigerdirect.com] and has clock speed only 200Mhz lower than the 965. The 955 also uses 125w compared to the 965's 140w, allowing you to easily make up for/go beyond the 200Mhz loss with an easy, air-cooled overclock. If you want to run your ram at 1600, you'll need the 790FX board, if you bump down to the 790GX, it will top out at 1333. I am opting for the 790GX because the motherboards are cheaper and I'll be running one video card for the time being. That being said, I am doing just as Silvune stated, buying one Radeon 5770 for now, and adding another in the future. The 5770 being much cheaper than the 5870 XXX [$179.99 vs $429.99 @ tigerdirect.com], is only slower in core and memory clock by 25Mhz and 400Mhz respectively [850Mhz vs 875Mhz & 4800Mhz vs 5200Mhz] while the memory interface is 128-bit vs 256-bit. So, though the 58700 XXX is a faster card, you could buy two 5770's for less than one 5870 XXX. As with most enthusiast PC builds, it's all price vs performance. In my opinion, this is a good middle ground.
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December 22, 2009 8:29:00 PM

There is a much larger difference between the 5870 and 5770 than just clock speed and memory interface, the 5770 is half of a 5870, it has 800 SPs vs 1600 SPs. Take a look at the 5770 review, in some cases 2 5770s perform similarly to a 5850, in some cases they beat it so 2 5770s at stock perform about midway between a 5870 and a 5850.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446...
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December 23, 2009 9:42:30 AM

hunter315 said:
There is a much larger difference between the 5870 and 5770 than just clock speed and memory interface, the 5770 is half of a 5870, it has 800 SPs vs 1600 SPs. Take a look at the 5770 review, in some cases 2 5770s perform similarly to a 5850, in some cases they beat it so 2 5770s at stock perform about midway between a 5870 and a 5850.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446...


So if the budget here is $1000, concerning price and performance, would choosing the 5770 be a good or bad choice? I checked out the benchmarks between the 5770 and 5870 and the 5870 consistently got 2x scores, and even scored higher than 2x5770. So 2x5770 will get you close to 1x5870 but for $70 less. But it also must consider that if/when the 5870 drops in price, a 2x5870 will become closer to affordable but much more burly. So to sum it up, in the long-run you would pay $70 more [than 2x5770] for a much higher tier of CrossFire performance in the future. I appreciate the feedback as I am in the same boat as bluecraze07 in deciding what parts to choose for my own upgrade.
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December 23, 2009 9:47:32 AM

Are you planning on utilizing CrossFire in the future? How much you are willing to spend now and how far you want to push your system definitely will play a role. As I understand it, it is a better idea to fork out the cash for a high-end GPU, and after prices drop, buy a second to utilize CrossFire. If that is dumb, please correct me hahaha.
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December 23, 2009 11:35:33 AM

It is definitely the better thing to do, unfortunately most people are prohibited by cost, especially at the initial buying/building stage.
I think to get the best option for price and performance: 5850, then you would have to spend less on the case, PSU and everything else to squeeze enough room into the budget for it. It would also depend on what games you play and how high you want the framerate to be.
From those benchmarks it seems like a single 5770 can handle some modern games at high settings and two can do even better, and if these cards become more capable with DX11 games then future games shouldn't be a problem either.
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December 29, 2009 11:47:36 PM

Alright guys, I actually bought my build already. There are some differences. Just waiting for the case, hard drive, optical drive and Windows 7 to get shipped (hopefully tommorow or the day after). The parts are as follows:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 AMD Edition
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition C3 stepping
Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P
Video Card: Sapphire HD 5770 Vapor-X
RAM: G. Skill 4 GB DDR-1600 CL7
Power Supply: Corsair TX750W
Optical Drive: LG 22x Burner
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OEM

What do you guys think?
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December 29, 2009 11:54:43 PM

Too late, I bought everything already.
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December 30, 2009 12:08:14 AM

bluecraze07 said:
Too late, I bought everything already.


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I'm sorry to hear that
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