The Best 5770 to buy?

[ribose]

I'm ordering parts for a new PC on Friday, and I have settled upon the ATI 5770 for my GFX card, as it will easily run games at high detail with great fps at 1440 x 900. However, I cannot decide upon which manufacturer/version to get. The Sapphire Vapor-X looks like a good option, but the XFX Juniper XT version also looks good with its warranty. Are there any other manufacturers/versions to consider?

Thanks,

Ribose

 

[rolli59]

Price and warranty is a good way to choose it!

 

[TheViper]

At least you've narrowed it down to the 2 best.

The Sapphire can be overlocked to some pretty impressive levels while the XFX has the double lifetime warranty. Basically you should pick whichever of those 2 aspects resonates with you most.

 

[wa1]

If u ask me then i choose XFX cause it's double lifetime warranty...

 

[avenger386]

I'm ordering parts for a new PC on Friday, and I have settled upon the ATI 5770 for my GFX card, as it will easily run games at high detail with great fps at 1440 x 900. However, I cannot decide upon which manufacturer/version to get. The Sapphire Vapor-X looks like a good option, but the XFX Juniper XT version also looks good with its warranty. Are there any other manufacturers/versions to consider?

Thanks,

Ribose

definite
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002SP113K

i got one myself. i had the 8800GT previous and the warranty makes it really easy to sell on eBay when you want an upgrade

 

[TheViper]

$5 less and free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447

 

[ribose]

The XFX may have the warranty, but is the Vapor-X better because it keeps the card cooler and operates more silently? How well does the XFX cooler work in comparison?

 

[avenger386]

The XFX may have the warranty, but is the Vapor-X better because it keeps the card cooler and operates more silently? How well does the XFX cooler work in comparison?

i have the one with the full shroud, i went from 8800gt (sold it in nov.) to passive cooled 4350HD (since i was building my dad a desktop, it was holding me over till i got my upgrade) to the XFX HD5770

I have to say the change from 8800gt to 4350 was obvious... from 4350 (silent) to 5770 was less obvious.

i typically have music on so i don't notice the fan... right now my heating vent is on so that i can't tell the fan is making noise.... overall i say it's pretty quiet

 

[sabot00]

The XFX has the standard/reference cooler.
The Vapor-X is just sick for overclocking.
Depends, do you overclock or is the warranty more important?

To me it would be overclock all the way, this card's going to be mediocre for gaming in 3-4 years (like the x1950 is today) & useless in 5-6 years. The double-lifetime isn't worth much for me.
In fact, the Vapor-X cooler keeps the temp about 10 degrees lower on the 4890 (same clocks). My overclocked 4890 beats my friends (after I disabled a Phenom II core & lowered clocks to match his CPU), a 5 FPS difference in Crysis (43 vs 48).
I can enjoy the 5 FPS NOW, I can't enjoy the warranty difference.

 

[ribose]

Someone on Newegg is reporting that the Sapphire 5770 (Vapor-X) is only reporting 720 shaders/stream processing units as opposed to 800. Is this a common problem with the card?

EDIT: here is the link - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102868&cm_re=ati_5770-_-14-102-868-_-Product

 

[avenger386]

The XFX has the standard/reference cooler.
The Vapor-X is just sick for overclocking.
Depends, do you overclock or is the warranty more important?

To me it would be overclock all the way, this card's going to be mediocre for gaming in 3-4 years (like the x1950 is today) & useless in 5-6 years. The double-lifetime isn't worth much for me.
In fact, the Vapor-X cooler keeps the temp about 10 degrees lower on the 4890 (same clocks). My overclocked 4890 beats my friends (after I disabled a Phenom II core & lowered clocks to match his CPU), a 5 FPS difference in Crysis (43 vs 48).
I can enjoy the 5 FPS NOW, I can't enjoy the warranty difference.

i put about a 10% OC on my card and the temps still don't reach 60C....
i only care about the double lifetime warranty BECAUSE this card is going to be mediocre in 3-4 years and useless in 5-6 years...

put simply, someone is more willing to buy an item on eBay if it still have warranty (especially lifetime warranty) i was able to sell my XFX 8800GT for about $100 after fees and shipping back in november and tacked on another 70-ish to upgrade to the HD5770.

I expect to sell the HD5770 in about 1.5-2.5 year and upgrade again at which time XFX warranty really helps

 

[ribose]

Any feedback regarding that stream processor problem with the Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X?

 

[sabot00]

Any feedback regarding that stream processor problem with the Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X?

Where did you read about that?
Manufacturers don't make the core, just assemble the PCB, mem, core, cooler onto one card.
If Sapphire's is affected so would XFX's, HIS's, Diamond, Powercolor, ASUS, and all of the manufacturers.

 

[sabot00]

i put about a 10% OC on my card and the temps still don't reach 60C....
i only care about the double lifetime warranty BECAUSE this card is going to be mediocre in 3-4 years and useless in 5-6 years...

put simply, someone is more willing to buy an item on eBay if it still have warranty (especially lifetime warranty) i was able to sell my XFX 8800GT for about $100 after fees and shipping back in november and tacked on another 70-ish to upgrade to the HD5770.

I expect to sell the HD5770 in about 1.5-2.5 year and upgrade again at which time XFX warranty really helps

I guess you can look at it like that but in 1.5 years the 5770's MSRP will be around $80, no one's going to buy a 1.5 year old card on eBay for the full MSRP, you'll be looking at $30 on eBay. In 2.5 years the 5770 will be hardly available, the MSRP if changed with be around $30, making eBay $10.
I'd rather keep the card to test future rigs & isolate problems, besides, then I could keep my system to play "obsolete" games.

 

[ribose]

I ordered the vapor-X 5770. Thank you all for your assistance.

 

[wa1]

Okay, enjoy your card...

 

[edeawillrule]

Someone on Newegg is reporting that the Sapphire 5770 (Vapor-X) is only reporting 720 shaders/stream processing units as opposed to 800. Is this a common problem with the card?

EDIT: here is the link - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102868&cm_re=ati_5770-_-14-102-868-_-Product

Where did you read about that?
Manufacturers don't make the core, just assemble the PCB, mem, core, cooler onto one card.
If Sapphire's is affected so would XFX's, HIS's, Diamond, Powercolor, ASUS, and all of the manufacturers.

Actually it looks like it is pretty common at the moment: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16976/1/
It's a faulty BIOS only affecting the Sapphire Vapor-X Radeon HD 5770s. The good thing is it can be fixed with an update.

 

[grrmisfit]

without starting a new post does anyone know if the 720 shaders problem is gone or something i still have to look out for? there also seems to be alot of disscussion about flickering on the sapphire cards. ive narrowed it down to this one or the xfx listed in the builds section

 

[edeawillrule]

without starting a new post does anyone know if the 720 shaders problem is gone or something i still have to look out for? there also seems to be alot of disscussion about flickering on the sapphire cards. ive narrowed it down to this one or the xfx listed in the builds section

From what I read it only affected the first batch so they should be fine now. Vapor-X is the best way to go :]

 

[lemon07r]

I'd go for the MSI R5770 HAWK, it has dual fans, overvoltage settings, sick afterburner software, solid capacitators and chokes. Better overclocking due to DOT express. Read more here : http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=137&prod_no=1982

 

[JDFan]

without starting a new post does anyone know if the 720 shaders problem is gone or something i still have to look out for? there also seems to be alot of disscussion about flickering on the sapphire cards. ive narrowed it down to this one or the xfx listed in the builds section

Sapphire messed up and put the 5750 bios onto the 5770 cards so they were reporting the wrong # of shaders - but it was quickly fixed - just effected the first shipment of cards and can also be fixed by flashing the BIOS if you do happen to get 1 but there shouldn't be any out there anymore that are affected so not something to worry about !!

 

[geno777]

I'd go for the MSI R5770 HAWK, it has dual fans, overvoltage settings, sick afterburner software, solid capacitators and chokes. Better overclocking due to DOT express. Read more here : http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=137&prod_no=1982

This 5770 hawk card is a card that I have been looking to buy now for close to a month. Is it a good gamming card ( games, FSX,BFBC2.MW2,. )

I have read that the afterburner software can conflict with the crystalist control panel . I used msi stuff years ago,great stuff is it still good quality. If I have to RMA this card later on how is there service.

I do OC mainly useing software like rivia tuner,EVGA precition ect, Is the AB software easy to use.

Thanks Sorry for hijacking the thread but found a lot of good info.

 

[okini55]

XFX!

 

[ribose]

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[Maziar]

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