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December 22, 2009 11:44:48 AM

I have 100$ budget and i can extend max 30$ more. So here are choices

Geforce 9800 GT
ATI 4830
GTS 250.

please help guys...are their more better cards available below 130$ nowadays!!5

sorry it was a mistake; it is GTS 250 not GTS 230.

My PC configuration are 2.6 GHZ dual core processor @ 4 GB RAM & currently using Geforce 9400 GT, i intend for gaming.

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a c 147 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 11:51:47 AM

Where are you buying from? The US or other country? Are you limited to a store or do you have websites to select from?

The 9800GT and 4830 are somewhat older cards. The GTS230 is not all that powerful. What do you intend to use this card for? Also, what are your other system specs?
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a c 84 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 11:58:08 AM

I was going to say 5750 but the cheapest one is $139.99 at newegg...


edit there is no such card as gts 230, maybe u meant gts 250?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 12:10:02 PM

GTS 250 or HD4770
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a c 147 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 12:41:35 PM

I'm still waiting to make sure he/she is in the US to recommend something on newegg.
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December 22, 2009 12:56:46 PM

hey sorry for late answer, i intend it to buy from shop, i live in India, but my bro went to new - zealand, i thin newgg might take extra shipping charges to new-zealand/india.
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December 22, 2009 1:01:42 PM

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lol, upgrading, I thought you were happy with your 9400 GT according to your last thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/276953-33-people-9400...


Seriously, out of the three video cards you listed the ATI 4830 is the fastest, however for a similar price you can still get a better video card such as the Nvidia GTS 250 1 GB or the ATI 5750, if you can stretch the ATI 5770 is also a good choice :) 

In order of speed!

5770 > 5750 > GTS 250 > 4850 > 4770 > 4830 > 9800 GT > GTS 230




The GTS 230 is a rebranded 9600 GT :( 


yup agreed, i am happy with 9400 GT but wont be able to play future games like Bad COmpany 2 in high settings :( 

BTW 5770 is almost 40$ more then my budget . BTW 5750 might be a good option because it supports DX11??
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a c 147 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 1:19:47 PM

From the list you provided the GTS250 is the clear winner. However, what is the price of the 5750 in comparison to the GTS250? The 5750 and GTS250 perform pretty close to one another, but the 5750 would give you DX11 support. If this is not an option, I would stick with the GTS250, it will give you considerable gains over the 9400GT.
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December 22, 2009 1:34:08 PM

jay2tall said:
From the list you provided the GTS250 is the clear winner. However, what is the price of the 5750 in comparison to the GTS250? The 5750 and GTS250 perform pretty close to one another, but the 5750 would give you DX11 support. If this is not an option, I would stick with the GTS250, it will give you considerable gains over the 9400GT.


well if GTS 250 & 5750 are v close in terms of performance, why do you prefer GTS 250, because nowadays many new games like Dirt 2 are equipped with dx11 support and 5750 has it.
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December 22, 2009 1:36:07 PM

price = GTS 250 - 140$ & ATI 5750 - 150$
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a c 189 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 1:40:58 PM

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Yes, just choose the cheapest on India, HD5750 or GTS250. Both are a good cards and u will see significant jump performance from your current 9400 GT... :) 
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December 22, 2009 1:48:27 PM

ya, was wondering, why Saphire has 5750 for 139$ and others priced it like 169$ ....is their any diffrence
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 1:56:39 PM

Sapphire is a pretty good brand. If the price difference is minimal then definitely the HD5750 over the GTS 250.
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a c 147 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 1:57:58 PM

sunzeal said:
well if GTS 250 & 5750 are v close in terms of performance, why do you prefer GTS 250, because nowadays many new games like Dirt 2 are equipped with dx11 support and 5750 has it.

I said previously that from the list I would pick the GTS250. However, I wasn't sure what price you could have the 5750 at. If the prices was comparable to the GTS250, then I would select the 5750 for DX11 support. As you said now said the price difference is $10. IS it work $10, that is your choice.

As far as different prices in manufacturers, they are all the same reference board. Some manufacturers put different coolers and offer different warranties and bundled equipment. However, when you compare card to card, they are all the same. Sapphire is probably the largest ATI reseller so they can probably get a better deal on reference cards. XFX is new to the ATI game, but they offer a double lifetime warranty, so their price reflects that.
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a c 217 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 2:08:55 PM

sunzeal said:
yup agreed, i am happy with 9400 GT but wont be able to play future games like Bad COmpany 2 in high settings

BTW 5770 is almost 40$ more then my budget . BTW 5750 might be a good option because it supports DX11??


It is good you are thinking ahead, but why not wait until you get one of those future games before making your upgrade, by then the prices on these same cards could drop or one of the more powerful cards will drop into your price range.
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December 22, 2009 2:19:39 PM

o yea that seems to be wise choice, the only games m not able to play is Arma II currently :(  in 2-3 months, price might drop.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 22, 2009 2:42:48 PM

sunzeal said:
o yea that seems to be wise choice, the only games m not able to play is Arma II currently :(  in 2-3 months, price might drop.

You are on a 9400GT right now? Don't wait then. If you are saying Arma is the only game you can't play on the 9400GT then you must be used to turning all the settings and resolution down to a minimum. That isn't how games are meant to be played so I'd definitely get a new card now. Both the HD5750 and GTS 250 are over 6 times more powerful than the 9400GT;
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 5:39:51 AM

That is simply untrue. Two rather major games, Dirt 2 and Stalker: Call of Pripyat, as well as Battleforge all make use of DX11 and are already out. Assassin's Creed 2, Crysis 2, BF: Bad Company 2, Grid 2 and Aliens vs Predator are all major games due in the next 6 month that are DX11.
Saying that it will be a year before there are any DX11 games is inaccurate to a curious degree. Where did you get that from?
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December 23, 2009 7:14:00 AM

i am kind of confused, should i go with GTS 250 which as PHYSX technology or 5750 which has dx11
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 7:17:51 AM

I'd much prefer a DX11 card. The HD5750 is also very power efficient/cool and supports 3 monitors.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 8:02:57 AM

He said the two cards are basically the same price. If that's so the HD5750 is the obvious choice IMO. Do you really think DX11 is a "gimmick"?
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December 23, 2009 10:38:25 AM

i have AC 230V power supply, is their a need to purchase a power supply if i get 5750 or GTS 250 and should i get cooler or something too regarding temp issues, ( i play games for 2-3 hrs a day).
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 10:52:40 AM

That's a problem. Your PSU is extremely weak. The best card I would say might run on that thing is an HD4650 which is ok but not particularly good even at low resolutions.
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December 23, 2009 11:03:48 AM

hmm that what do i need to change?? a power supply??
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December 23, 2009 11:31:23 AM

ok here are the power supply requirments :-

450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

Well how much does that cost!!! and is their any neccessity of cooling system too??
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December 23, 2009 12:33:26 PM

ok i decided to buy a 600 watt supply, is their any more thing needed???
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 1:20:34 PM

Nah, cooling shouldn't be an issue. All cards come with a fan/heatsink to cool them. When choosing a PSU it's best to go with a quality brand even if the specs aren't as high as some of the other units. Often cheap PSUs will list specs that have nothing to do with reality.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 1:35:31 PM

Actually I just realized something. Is the 230 you listed is the voltage of your PSU or the wattage?
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December 23, 2009 1:54:33 PM

jyjjy said:
Actually I just realized something. Is the 230 you listed is the voltage of your PSU or the wattage?


Its 230V :) 
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 2:00:31 PM

Well, what is the wattage in that case?
Number of amps on the +12v rail would be good to know as well. This should all be on a chart on the side of the PSU. Or if you know the brand/model # it can probably be looked up.
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a b U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 2:05:00 PM



why take a card thats already 3 generations old
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December 23, 2009 4:24:16 PM

jyjjy said:
Well, what is the wattage in that case?
Number of amps on the +12v rail would be good to know as well. This should all be on a chart on the side of the PSU. Or if you know the brand/model # it can probably be looked up.


o i dont know about watt, but i think i will try to run it in 230V, it would provide around approx 1000 watt which will be enough to run g.c BTW new ones might be available in around 20$.

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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 23, 2009 4:39:31 PM

I'm not quite sure what you are saying. Unless that PSU was very expensive it's definitely not 1000w. The voltage is a standard, it tells us nothing about the PSU. We need to know the wattage to tell you what cards it can handle if any or if you will need a new PSU. It should be written on the PSU if you take the side off of the computer's case.
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December 24, 2009 8:24:49 AM

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Tell us the name/brand PSU in which you are interested in because there is absolutely no way you can buy a quality power supply unit for $20. Its not just a matter of wattage, its about reliability and efficiency as well.

If you buy the ATI 5750 you might be able to get away with keeping your current PSU. Tell us the name/brand of your current PSU please.




Hi

Well here are some pics of my CPU, it might be more easy for you to tell me.

http://i48.tinypic.com/wk20xi.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/2h3803q.jpg (mine is the lower one)
http://i50.tinypic.com/344pgr9.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/11t339e.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/qqboef.jpg (Power Supply)

Well i think my current PSU might be able to handle 5750 but not so sure.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 24, 2009 8:42:50 AM

Alright... Those pics are showing a 300w PSU claiming to have two +12v rails totaling 21amps and the quality of the unit looks sketchy at best. The HD5750 is actually very low power;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_5750_P...
but trying to run it on that isn't something I would recommend. You may be able to get away with an HD4670 which is a decent card for low resolutions and still a gigantic upgrade over your 9400GT(3x as powerful.) Otherwise you are going to need a new PSU. Look for something with a 6-pin PCIe connector and at least 30a on the +12v rail for an HD5750, 40+ amps for the GTS 250.
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December 24, 2009 8:50:34 AM

jyjjy said:
Alright... Those pics are showing a 300w PSU claiming to have two +12v rails totaling 21amps and the quality of the unit looks sketchy at best. The HD5750 is actually very low power;
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_5750_P...
but trying to run it on that isn't something I would recommend. You may be able to get away with an HD4670 which is a decent card for low resolutions and still a gigantic upgrade over your 9400GT(3x as powerful.) Otherwise you are going to need a new PSU. Look for something with a 6-pin PCIe connector and at least 30a on the +12v rail for an HD5750, 40+ amps for the GTS 250.



o hmm why do we need 6 pin PCI-E connector, ?? do we have to attach power wire from PSU to 5750?? & BTW what should i exactly tell the guy at the shop(specification of PSU) ?? coz i aint buying PSU t from website. Ive heard 5750 is low power consumption card, so my current should not be enough!!!
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December 24, 2009 10:09:02 AM






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Ive heard 5750 is low power consumption card, so my current should not be enough!!!



The 5750 is low power, your PSU probably could run it, but your PSU is not reliable, its not a reputable brand/model and the chances are it will eventually fail, maybe not straight away it might take weeks, months or years but when it fails it might blow all the components in the rig with it.


Some useful reading;

http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/0...[/quotemsg]

o thanks for that site. The shop from which i buy my stuffs, i trusted one so m not afraid of getting ripped off. I just dont know what exactly should i say to him.Should i just tell him that i need 700W-Power PSU with 6 pin PCI-E connector????
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a c 376 U Graphics card
December 24, 2009 11:01:31 AM

No, you don't need anything close to a 700w PSU. In fact if your 300w PSU was of a good brand it would probably be ok. PSUs that aren't of a reputable brand are notorious for having specifications that are nowhere near reality. If you get one of a good brand then 400w should be more than fine. If you go for a no name brand then get at least 500w but it is still a risk, might be just fine, might die very quickly. More important than the overall wattage is actually the amperage on the +12v rail(s). The video card and a lot of the other components get their power exclusively from the +12v rail.
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December 24, 2009 11:27:31 AM

o hmm it looks like i need to waste more 40-50$ for good brand PSU :( 

BTW please check this link

http://www.priceindia.in/computer/cooler-master-smps-po...

I think i might go for the first one which cost Rs 1800/- (390W)

But their is pic of nvidia SLI in that power supply, nything fishy??

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