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December 23, 2009 4:03:56 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Mid January 2010


BUDGET RANGE: $1000 to $1200


SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)


PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS Windows 7, Power Supply Corsair 750, CPU cooler Corsair H50, Hard Drive


PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com, Amazon, Fry's


COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US


PARTS PREFERENCES: none


OVERCLOCKING: Yes


SLI OR CROSSFIRE:


MONITOR RESOLUTION:1680x1050,


ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Looking to build a new PC. After hearing some opinions I have decided on the 1156 platform. Would like a larger mid-tower with more class than bling but with good cooling. I am also planning to upgrade to a 24' monitor.

Core i5 750 Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

ASRock P55 Deluxe LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB XXX Edition 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec P183 Black Aluminum / Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total: About $985

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December 23, 2009 4:28:38 AM

^ That is a good build...
As for the mobo, the ASRock boards are great value but I would still prefer ASUS, MSI, EVGA or Gigabyte over any other for the quality...
$30 more, but I feel for a mid-high end PC, you need a quality mobo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE - Just confirm whether the Antec 183 can accomodate the HD 5870 as it is pretty long...
This Lian-Li case can certainly accomodate those...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-new-pc,2497-6...
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December 23, 2009 7:55:22 AM

I've been looking at exactly those two motherboards and can't decide. Read that ASUS one supposedly doesn't lose any of the PCI lanes when using USB3.0/SATA6Gb while Gigabyte drops it's PCI lane to x8.
Which one would you recommend?
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December 23, 2009 8:05:33 AM

^ According to that article, the ASUS seems to be a better option...
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December 23, 2009 8:25:33 AM

But according to your personal experience? ;) 
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December 23, 2009 8:33:24 AM

^ I prefer Gigabyte boards over ASUS...but that is just me...
And these boards are new to the market so I dont have first hand experience with those specific models if that is what you ask...
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December 23, 2009 8:40:06 AM

Yes that was my question. Also heard that Gigabyte was somewhat better, just that little tidbit concerning full support of new USB and SATA is bugging me :) 

Thx for the input btw :) 
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December 23, 2009 9:01:55 AM

Interesting, unfortunately you lose a slot if going that way and since I'm building a new system I'd prefer to have it built in... but looking at the older versions of the same boards another thing pops out: Gagabyte doesn't support 1600MHz RAM :( 
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December 23, 2009 9:24:55 AM

^ Most of the boards support DDR3 1600MHz - Actually even higher...Which board are you talking about ?
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December 23, 2009 9:32:40 AM

verst said:
Interesting, unfortunately you lose a slot if going that way and since I'm building a new system I'd prefer to have it built in... but looking at the older versions of the same boards another thing pops out: Gagabyte doesn't support 1600MHz RAM :( 


Hi, "losing" a PCIEx4 slot (due to USB3/SATA3 addon card) doesn't matter, since you lose them anyway.

The thing is, even built in solutions (like on Asus -E boards) use PCIE lanes from the chipset, so even if there was a x4 slot, there are simply no more lanes left for it.

For example, take a look at Asus P55 E PRO (or deluxe, premium) and compare to non E versions. Notice how the new boards don't have that third PCIE16 slot (one connected to the chipset and limited to x4). The reason is that the USB3/SATA3 is using all the available PCIE lanes.

So, you "use" x4 slot anyway, regardless of whether its a built in or add on solution.
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December 23, 2009 10:40:19 AM

@gkay
I was looking at the specs on Newegg and they don't have 1600MHz support listed there, only 2200/1333/1066. Went to check the official page and it's listed there, sry...

@B011
Didn't notice that new boards were missing the third slot. But it makes sense... all the same, since I'm buying new hardware I'd rather already have it in there :) 
But still the fact remains that Gigabyte board drops it's PCI slot to x8 when using new features, while the ASUS one doesn't...
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December 23, 2009 10:54:35 AM

verst said:

@B011
Didn't notice that new boards were missing the third slot. But it makes sense... all the same, since I'm buying new hardware I'd rather already have it in there :) 
But still the fact remains that Gigabyte board drops it's PCI slot to x8 when using new features, while the ASUS one doesn't...


Actualy, Gigabyte has 2 modes:

1. full USB3/SATA3 (called TURBO mode) which uses 8 lanes directly from the CPU, thus disabling 2nd PCIE16 slot and putting 1st PCIE16 slot to x8;

2. normal USB3/SATA3 which uses the chipset lanes, thus limiting USB3/SATA3 speed but leaving CPU PCIE lanes unaffected.

Please read this article:
http://www.overclockers.com/usb-30-testing-gigabyte-ud3...

There is a explanation from Gigabyte in part one which explains how exactly it works.
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