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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Mid January 2010


BUDGET RANGE: $1000 to $1200


SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)


PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS Windows 7, Power Supply Corsair 750, CPU cooler Corsair H50, Hard Drive


PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com, Amazon, Fry's


COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US


PARTS PREFERENCES: none


OVERCLOCKING: Yes


SLI OR CROSSFIRE:


MONITOR RESOLUTION:1680x1050,


ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Looking to build a new PC. After hearing some opinions I have decided on the 1156 platform. Would like a larger mid-tower with more class than bling but with good cooling. I am also planning to upgrade to a 24' monitor.

Core i5 750 Processor
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

ASRock P55 Deluxe LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB XXX Edition 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec P183 Black Aluminum / Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total: About $985

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^ That is a good build...
As for the mobo, the ASRock boards are great value but I would still prefer ASUS, MSI, EVGA or Gigabyte over any other for the quality...
$30 more, but I feel for a mid-high end PC, you need a quality mobo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE - Just confirm whether the Antec 183 can accomodate the HD 5870 as it is pretty long...
This Lian-Li case can certainly accomodate those...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-new-pc,2497-6...

I've been looking at exactly those two motherboards and can't decide. Read that ASUS one supposedly doesn't lose any of the PCI lanes when using USB3.0/SATA6Gb while Gigabyte drops it's PCI lane to x8.
Which one would you recommend?
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^ I prefer Gigabyte boards over ASUS...but that is just me...
And these boards are new to the market so I dont have first hand experience with those specific models if that is what you ask...

Yes that was my question. Also heard that Gigabyte was somewhat better, just that little tidbit concerning full support of new USB and SATA is bugging me :) 

Thx for the input btw :) 

Interesting, unfortunately you lose a slot if going that way and since I'm building a new system I'd prefer to have it built in... but looking at the older versions of the same boards another thing pops out: Gagabyte doesn't support 1600MHz RAM :( 

verst said:
Interesting, unfortunately you lose a slot if going that way and since I'm building a new system I'd prefer to have it built in... but looking at the older versions of the same boards another thing pops out: Gagabyte doesn't support 1600MHz RAM :( 


Hi, "losing" a PCIEx4 slot (due to USB3/SATA3 addon card) doesn't matter, since you lose them anyway.

The thing is, even built in solutions (like on Asus -E boards) use PCIE lanes from the chipset, so even if there was a x4 slot, there are simply no more lanes left for it.

For example, take a look at Asus P55 E PRO (or deluxe, premium) and compare to non E versions. Notice how the new boards don't have that third PCIE16 slot (one connected to the chipset and limited to x4). The reason is that the USB3/SATA3 is using all the available PCIE lanes.

So, you "use" x4 slot anyway, regardless of whether its a built in or add on solution.

@gkay
I was looking at the specs on Newegg and they don't have 1600MHz support listed there, only 2200/1333/1066. Went to check the official page and it's listed there, sry...

@B011
Didn't notice that new boards were missing the third slot. But it makes sense... all the same, since I'm buying new hardware I'd rather already have it in there :) 
But still the fact remains that Gigabyte board drops it's PCI slot to x8 when using new features, while the ASUS one doesn't...

verst said:

@B011
Didn't notice that new boards were missing the third slot. But it makes sense... all the same, since I'm buying new hardware I'd rather already have it in there :) 
But still the fact remains that Gigabyte board drops it's PCI slot to x8 when using new features, while the ASUS one doesn't...


Actualy, Gigabyte has 2 modes:

1. full USB3/SATA3 (called TURBO mode) which uses 8 lanes directly from the CPU, thus disabling 2nd PCIE16 slot and putting 1st PCIE16 slot to x8;

2. normal USB3/SATA3 which uses the chipset lanes, thus limiting USB3/SATA3 speed but leaving CPU PCIE lanes unaffected.

Please read this article:
http://www.overclockers.com/usb-30-testing-gigabyte-ud3...

There is a explanation from Gigabyte in part one which explains how exactly it works.
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