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July 13, 2010 4:49:40 AM

Building a new computer and have finalized every major part I'll be buying with the exception of memory. I'll be using the computer for video editing and everyday activities. My builder recommended installing 6Gb of RAM to start with. But since I plan to edit HD I thought 12Gb would be better. I'm aware of how little RAM is used in most applications. I'd rather have too much and not have to worry about upgrading later.

The parts I'll be using are listed in the first section of a post I made a couple of days ago. (See post below for details)
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/8428-63-digital-editi...

I don't plan to over clock, thus some of these RAM options might not be the best.

Newegg.com 12Gb RAM options are listed in the link below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

My top picks
1. CORSAIR XMS3 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model HX3X12G1600C9 G $339
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This seems to be the most practical option. However, I'd rather have 12Gb with a (3x4Gb) configuration. Everything I've read says (3x4Gb) is a faster.


2. G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-12GBRL
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 9-9-9-24 Cas Latency 9 Cas Latency: 9
Voltage: 1.5V
Multi-channel Kit: Triple Channel Kit
Timing: 9-9-9-24
$489
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


3. G.SKILL Trident+ Turbulence II 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-12GBTDD $499
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Timing 7-8-7-24
Voltage 1.65V
Multi-channel Kit Triple Channel Kit
Heat Spreader Yes
Features Compatible with Intel X58 chipset
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts Lifetime limited
Labor Lifetime limited

This second G Skill seems to have the better numbers??? It's my top choice at the moment.



4. OUT OF STOCK CORSAIR DOMINATOR 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP12GX3M3A1600C9 $499
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 9-9-9-24 Cas Latency 9 Cas Latency: 9
Voltage: 1.65V
Multi-channel Kit: Triple Channel Kit
Timing: 9-9-9-24

5. Intel XMP Ready Kingston HyperX 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) XMP Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 9-9-9-27 Cas Latency 9 Cas Latency: 9
Voltage: 1.65V
Multi-channel Kit: Triple Channel Kit
Timing: 9-9-9-27
Ridiculously expensive $659

Any other RAM choices seem better?

Another option I thought about was to get 6Gb of Corsair memory $189.99 and upgrade the grahic card from the NVidia Quadro FX 1800 to the FX 3800. Price of FX1800 is $400 and the FX 3800 is $835. I could always upgrade the Ram later. The only problem with this is I'm pretty sure NVidia is going to upgrade this card shortly as it doesn't even have HDMI. Thus, I plan to upgrade the card eventually to a later version of the 3800.

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July 13, 2010 6:53:03 AM

If you aren't going to OC,then go with the Corsair one(first choice),its considerably cheaper than the other ones.
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July 13, 2010 2:03:15 PM

I'd go with number one unless you plan on going higher with the amount of ram than 12G in the future before upgrading mobos .

the 3x4gG will likely be better choice if you plan on going with more ram before upgrading mobo. as most boards don't have more than 6 slots. if this is the case and you want mroe upgradability i'd go with option number 2
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July 14, 2010 4:07:30 PM

Get 1600 8/8/8 with triple channel over 9/9/9.
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July 14, 2010 5:57:41 PM



Wrote to tech support of a memory company about the type of memory I should use for this motherboard. I'll copy and paste what he wrote and let you comment.
For those that might be new to this thead the motherboard is:
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

"If you run memory at 1600Mhz or higher in this board, you will only be able to install one channel of memory. Remember that when you run any DDR3 memory faster than 1333Mhz, you are overclocking. If you do use our 1600Mhz ,,,,,,,, memory, you will have to go into the BIOS to set the memory to run at 1600Mhz. At the default settings, the memory will run at 1333Mhz.

If you have enough memory for what you are using the computer for, you will get better performance with faster RAM. But if you are going to need more RAM, you will need to trade off performance for capacity.

1066Mhz is in the list because it will work in this motherboard. But you should probably choose 1333MHz memory over 1066Mhz memory for this motherboard. In other motherboard, this may not be the case due to limitations of the board."

I'm still a bit confused. Everyone seems to be recommending the 1600Mhz memory, even my builder. Yet, from what I understand, I only be able to install one channel of memory. Would it make sense to configure the memory to run two channels and go with the 1333MHz memory?


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July 14, 2010 6:06:24 PM

The tech says a triple channel kit is capped @ 1333 mhz?
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July 14, 2010 6:09:52 PM

So the default speed of the mobo is 1333 but it can be "overclocked"??
Is 1600 mhz triple channel possible?
There are plenty Intels with over 2000mhz 8/8/8 triple channel!
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July 14, 2010 6:51:54 PM

So the default speed of the mobo is 1333 but it can be "overclocked"??
From what understand it can be overclocked. But, I'll only be able to install one channel.

Is 1600 mhz triple channel possible? I didn't ask. But, I assume not as he didn't mention it. I'll write back and ask.

There are plenty Intels with over 2000mhz 8/8/8 triple channel!

Are you referring to MB's? Seems most Intel motherboards have the designation 1156, 1333 or 775 when I look on Negegg.com. I haven't seen anything stating 2000mhz. I must be looking at the wrong thing.

I'm wondering if one has to go to the Xeon chip to get the 1600 or higher to work in 2-3 channels? I'll ask the tech about this as well. Doesn't seem realistic as you say there are a lot of Intels with over 2000mhz 8/8/8.

The tech says a triple channel kit is capped @ 1333 mhz?
That's what he said.
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a c 163 } Memory
July 14, 2010 8:03:59 PM

Hi.

Unless that u use many adobe applications at the same time, the 12GB are overkill for now.

1- I would go with this G.Skill PI series 1600 even u can buy two of this and is more cheap that ur options ;) 
2- I think that the P6X58D Premium is overpriced, go with the ASUS P6X58D-E or Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
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July 14, 2010 8:20:44 PM

1.5 volts and 6 gb triple channel 1600 @ 8/8/8 should be easy with this linked RAM by Saint19.
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a c 163 } Memory
July 14, 2010 8:23:28 PM

The PI series that I liked are 1600 CL7 @ 1.5V
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July 14, 2010 9:44:27 PM

I starting to get what the tech support person is trying to tell me.

Here is a copy of what he said. I eliminated the name of the memory in what I copied. This symbol (( )) means what's inside has been replaced by my words.

"This is a triple channel motherboard. It can take two groups of three modules. Each group of three is a channel. So when I state that if you run memory at 1600Mhz you can only use one channel, I mean you can only install one group of three. If you do not plan to force your motherboard to run memory at 1600Mhz (i.e. overclock), then there is no point in using ((our 1600Mhz memory)). You should use the standard 1333Mhz memory recommended for this motherboard. The only reason to get 1600Mhz memory is to force the motherboard to run memory at that speed. If you force your computer to run memory at 1600Mhz, you will get better performance over 1333Mhz, but there will be a limitation on the amount of memory you can install.

Since you are not familiar with overclocking, you should not use 1600Mhz memory in this computer. This should only be used by users who are familiar with these configuration. I suggest you use our 1333Mhz memory for this motherboard."

This is what I get out of wat the tech support person said. (Please feel free to comment or make corrections).

If I decide to overclock I can use the 1600Mhz memory on one channel only. If I decided I wanted to add more memory later on, then I would be limited to the one channel (one group of three). If I went with the 1333Mhz of memory, then I could use 2 channels (two groups of three).

Since it is doubtful I will be using more memory, then I would be better off using the 1600Mhz memory. Right now all I need is 6Gb (3x2), but might consider going with 12Mb (3x4) if I plan to update in the future.

As for overclocking, I didn't realize I would have to overclock to get to 1600Mhz. My builder hadn't mentioned it. I wasn't planning on overclocking. However, it seems from reading the postings that it is commonplace. Since I'm not the computer geek type is there anything I would have to monitor if I decided to overclock? Could my builder simply set the overclock and I could leave it alone. Or, would I have to constantly monitor/adjust it depending on what I'm running? (Please answer this question...thanks).

To ID4 "Get 1600 8/8/8 with triple channel over 9/9/9."
Do you have a particular brand or Newegg.com site you could provide. Thanks!


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a c 163 } Memory
July 14, 2010 10:23:51 PM

NikosN said:
I starting to get what the tech support person is trying to tell me.

Here is a copy of what he said. I eliminated the name of the memory in what I copied. This symbol (( )) means what's inside has been replaced by my words.

"This is a triple channel motherboard. It can take two groups of three modules. Each group of three is a channel. So when I state that if you run memory at 1600Mhz you can only use one channel, I mean you can only install one group of three. If you do not plan to force your motherboard to run memory at 1600Mhz (i.e. overclock), then there is no point in using ((our 1600Mhz memory)). You should use the standard 1333Mhz memory recommended for this motherboard. The only reason to get 1600Mhz memory is to force the motherboard to run memory at that speed. If you force your computer to run memory at 1600Mhz, you will get better performance over 1333Mhz, but there will be a limitation on the amount of memory you can install.

Since you are not familiar with overclocking, you should not use 1600Mhz memory in this computer. This should only be used by users who are familiar with these configuration. I suggest you use our 1333Mhz memory for this motherboard."

This is what I get out of wat the tech support person said. (Please feel free to comment or make corrections).

If I decide to overclock I can use the 1600Mhz memory on one channel only. If I decided I wanted to add more memory later on, then I would be limited to the one channel (one group of three). If I went with the 1333Mhz of memory, then I could use 2 channels (two groups of three).

Since it is doubtful I will be using more memory, then I would be better off using the 1600Mhz memory. Right now all I need is 6Gb (3x2), but might consider going with 12Mb (3x4) if I plan to update in the future.

As for overclocking, I didn't realize I would have to overclock to get to 1600Mhz. My builder hadn't mentioned it. I wasn't planning on overclocking. However, it seems from reading the postings that it is commonplace. Since I'm not the computer geek type is there anything I would have to monitor if I decided to overclock? Could my builder simply set the overclock and I could leave it alone. Or, would I have to constantly monitor/adjust it depending on what I'm running? (Please answer this question...thanks).

To ID4 "Get 1600 8/8/8 with triple channel over 9/9/9."
Do you have a particular brand or Newegg.com site you could provide. Thanks!


With all respect to the ASUS support the OC is a process that u learn in the way not something that u get when u born. In that way maybe u don't want OC today but believe me that few weeks latter u will want to do it.

I would be limited to the one channel (one group of three). That's why I recommend the P6X58D-E or Gigabyte X58A-UD3R because those mobo don't have that limitation.

Now OC means test and fail but when u get the correct specifications (don't take much time) u get a stable OC and that means that u can run games or applications with the same specifications.
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July 14, 2010 11:10:40 PM

Saint19
I would be limited to the one channel "That's why I recommend the P6X58D-E or Gigabyte X58A-UD3R because those mobo don't have that limitation."

Do you mean that I would be able to add as much 1600Gb memory as I wanted and have it work on 2 channels (or more?).
How about overclocking..would that be easier on this board or about the same as the Premium?
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July 14, 2010 11:17:05 PM

I'm heading out right now... will be back in a couple hours.

On this site, how do you copy info that was in a previous post and put it in a box like you did in the previous reply?
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a c 163 } Memory
July 15, 2010 12:12:31 AM

Both ASUS are very similar and the Gigabyte support 1600 in all channels as the P6X58D-E.
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July 16, 2010 2:39:36 AM

Best answer selected by NikosN.
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