Watercoooling small case and looking for bays resevoir/pump

[monkeymonk]

I am looking to watercool my fractal arc mini. Right now I looking for a power supply that is short enough to allow me the use of the bottom fan mount. I would like to know if optical bay resevoirs/pumps are sufficient for a full watercooling setup. If they are not powerfull enough then I can just get any powersupply because the bottom of my case will be where i would need to put my pump/res. Unless there are other options I am not seeing?
http://www.fractal-design.com/img_prod/FD-CA-ARC-MINI-BL_2.jpg
I am planning for a 240mm top, maybe a double thick 120 with push pull in the front and if I can put the pump/res in the optical bay then I will put another 120 at the bottom.
I will be watercooling an asus top 680 and 2500k but I may buy a 690 in the future(if I can find one haha). I definitely want to overclock and want silent rads/fans. Which means low FPI?
What do you guys think? My main question is the bay pump/res.

 

[Motopsychojdn]

Xspc do some drivebay respump combo's which are very suitable, the basic Xspx 750l pump is ok, I run two in my own loop, but they also do Laing D5 and mcp655 variants as well, check the W/c sticky for some more info on pumps, as well as the other components in a loop
Moto

 

[tinmann]

Seasonic makes really compact power supplies and are one of the best name brand money can buy. Also there are a number of 5.25" bay drives, all of which will be more than enough to accommodate your entire loop. I us the Koolance RP-452X2 V2 dual bay reservoir
http://koolance.com/rp-452x2-dual-5-25in-reservoir-for-1-2-pmp-450-s-pumps
with 2 D5 pumps, but Koolance also has some single bay drives also. The TNK-501 Single 5.25in Bay Reservoir
http://koolance.com/tnk-501-single-5-25in-bay-reservoir
And the RP-401X2 Single 5.25in Reservoir for 1-2 PMP-400 Pumps
RP-401X2 Single 5.25in Reservoir for 1-2 PMP-400 Pumps
http://koolance.com/rp-401x2-single-5-25in-reservoir-for-1-2-pmp-400-pumps

If you are looking for low fpi rads then I'd look at the XSPC RX line of rads.
XSPC RX360 and a XSPC RX240
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8523/ex-rad-146/XSPC_RX360_Triple_120mm_Radiator_Rev_2.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8522/ex-rad-145/XSPC_RX240_Dual_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s160

 

[rubix_1011]

There was a guy on the classifieds selling a brand new MCP355 pump for $50...might check that out. These fit into DDC bay res's or can use a top/res as well.

Edit: adding link to classified ad. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/103965-8-laing-swiftech-pump-noctua-updated-price-drop

 

[monkeymonk]

Xspc do some drivebay respump combo's which are very suitable, the basic Xspx 750l pump is ok, I run two in my own loop, but they also do Laing D5 and mcp655 variants as well, check the W/c sticky for some more info on pumps, as well as the other components in a loop
Moto

I've been looking at the XSPC drive bay pump, looks cool. Is the pump basically submerged? Whats your opinion on the water cooling kit that includes the drive bay pump? I can't find it right now. It was like 140 bucks but that seems like too good of a deal to be true. it had a water block a rad and some other stuff.

 

[monkeymonk]

There was a guy on the classifieds selling a brand new MCP355 pump for $50...might check that out. These fit into DDC bay res's or can use a top/res as well.

Edit: adding link to classified ad. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/103965-8-laing-swiftech-pump-noctua-updated-price-drop

I'm considering that I'll probably PM the guy tomorrow. How is that pump different than the Laing D5 and mcp655. I was thinking about getting some gentle typhoons what do you think of those fans instead? Silence is slightly more important for me.

 

[monkeymonk]

Seasonic makes really compact power supplies and are one of the best name brand money can buy. Also there are a number of 5.25" bay drives, all of which will be more than enough to accommodate your entire loop. I us the Koolance RP-452X2 V2 dual bay reservoir
http://koolance.com/rp-452x2-dual-5-25in-reservoir-for-1-2-pmp-450-s-pumps
with 2 D5 pumps, but Koolance also has some single bay drives also. The TNK-501 Single 5.25in Bay Reservoir
http://koolance.com/tnk-501-single-5-25in-bay-reservoir
And the RP-401X2 Single 5.25in Reservoir for 1-2 PMP-400 Pumps
RP-401X2 Single 5.25in Reservoir for 1-2 PMP-400 Pumps
http://koolance.com/rp-401x2-single-5-25in-reservoir-for-1-2-pmp-400-pumps

If you are looking for low fpi rads then I'd look at the XSPC RX line of rads.
XSPC RX360 and a XSPC RX240
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8523/ex-rad-146/XSPC_RX360_Triple_120mm_Radiator_Rev_2.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8522/ex-rad-145/XSPC_RX240_Dual_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s160

Those rads look great Ill probably get that but according to the arcmini website any rad over 70mm apparently causes compatibility issues with the CPU water block though. Don't know if they included fans in that guide but perhaps I can find a CPU water block that works regardless.
As for the res, What are the advantages of the dual bay over the single bay? Can I still attach a pump to the res directly?
If not then I will have to put my pump on top of my Power supply. Is that to far away from the res? It's all downhill to the pump so maybe that changes things.

 

[Motopsychojdn]

I've been looking at the XSPC drive bay pump, looks cool. Is the pump basically submerged? Whats your opinion on the water cooling kit that includes the drive bay pump? I can't find it right now. It was like 140 bucks but that seems like too good of a deal to be true. it had a water block a rad and some other stuff.

Yup, the pump is submerged (helps reduce noise as well) and I run two of the X20 750L res/pumps in my own Pc, I like them
The kits you saw are a great starting point for a loop, especially the uprated pump versions, you get everything you need in them except distilled water, and can expand on them later if/when you wish to
Moto

 

[rubix_1011]

I'm considering that I'll probably PM the guy tomorrow. How is that pump different than the Laing D5 and mcp655.

There is discussion around this in the watercooling sticky; head pressure, flow rates and actual size differ.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277130-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky#t1992120

 

[monkeymonk]

Yup, the pump is submerged (helps reduce noise as well) and I run two of the X20 750L res/pumps in my own Pc, I like them
The kits you saw are a great starting point for a loop, especially the uprated pump versions, you get everything you need in them except distilled water, and can expand on them later if/when you wish to
Moto

It seems like everyone of those kits is out of stock so guess i will be doing a custom loop.

 

[monkeymonk]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057&Tpk=ST1000-P This is the powersupply I ended up getting btw, in case anyone wanted to know. I needed one that small enough.

 

[monkeymonk]

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