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ATI Radeon x1650 Crossfire (cont'd -- upgraded to 9800GT))

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December 25, 2009 7:25:37 PM

Hi,

So after much discussion and research, i went ahead and upgraded to a geforce 9800GT from a ATI x1650 Pro. After installation, the difference in gfx is def noticable, however, I was still unable to pull a full 100fps from CS1.6. More specifically, in a public server with 20+ players, depending on the map, my frame rates would drop to 70-80fps.

My new specs are as follows:

Current Specs:
AMD X2 64 4200+
4Gigs DDR2 Kingston HyperX
ECS KA3 MVP V1.0A ATI (CROSSFIRE XPRESS 3200 CHIPSET )
BFG GeForce 9800 GT
400W Cooler Master PSU

After discussing the issue with one of my friends, he tells me that the issue is probably related to one of the follwing:

A. My CPU is bottle-necking my 9800, or
B. My 9800 is not getting enough power from my 400W PSU.

I would like to hear more opinions on the issue at hand.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas. :pt1cable: 
December 25, 2009 10:39:29 PM

Also.. ever thought of lag.

Come on 80FPS is more then enough dont be silly!
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December 25, 2009 10:47:42 PM

Well, I know in Quake if you get 120+ FPS there's a jump bug that lets you jump farther/faster.

You won't tell a difference between 70FPS & 100FPS.
So unless there's a glitch you're wanting to take advantage of don't bother.
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December 25, 2009 11:31:33 PM

Seeing that I probably will not be upgrading my CPU, i guess I should not have aimed so high on my new graphics card if it was going to bottlenecked. Maybe I should have gone for the HD 4670...and perhaps i would have gotten the same results for about $40 cheaper?

and like I said, cs1.6 is my favorite games. and everyone keeps tellign me that cs1.6 is such a non-labor-extensive game that it saddens me that I cant run it at max settings. i thought my system was decent until now... :( 
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December 26, 2009 12:06:38 AM

bddazza,

i thought i told you i want a 100. you act as though getting max rates out of cs1.6 is impossible out of a newer system, but I am pretty sure this isnt the case.

and i dont think i am setting my hopes too high by trying to get full frames out of cs. ive been playing the game long enough to know how it should feel at my preferred settings. a lot of people would argue that a drop in frame rates (even by a mere 10-20 frames) does in fact make a difference in this game, myself included. just looking to up my system to what I want...thats all.

but thanks for your input.
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December 26, 2009 2:06:47 AM

You know your problem now, your CPU does not have enough power and is limiting the graphics.

I don't see any point on further postings from anyone.
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December 26, 2009 2:13:52 AM

Noobster15 said:
You know your problem now, your CPU does not have enough power and is limiting the graphics.

I don't see any point on further postings from anyone.


+1 :D 
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December 26, 2009 9:10:20 AM

Noobster15 said:
You know your problem now, your CPU does not have enough power and is limiting the graphics.

I don't see any point on further postings from anyone.


so i should invest in a new power supply? any recommendations as far as wattage/brand?
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December 26, 2009 12:23:08 PM

Yes a processor would make a huge difference. I'm not familiar with AMD anymore, but considering you have a Athlon X2 4200+, I would be concerned wich CPU you can actually put on your motherboard. I would guess a X2 6400+ is a sure thing, but can you even buy those anymore..? All I'm saying is find out what CPU is compatable with your motherboard then happy shopping..:) 
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December 26, 2009 5:25:32 PM

dude new graphics cards are not engineered for older games if u get abt 60 - 70 fps that more than amazing come on a 9800 gt is like any new card is engineered for newer games not old games
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December 26, 2009 6:00:29 PM

Don't get the 6400+, it has a 125W TDP so it might not work on his mobo.
Find a Athlon II X2, plenty of power.
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December 26, 2009 7:31:18 PM

well, according to newegg, the only processors that are compatible with my current mobo are Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 / Sempron.

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E168...

am I sol?

(edit) well an oem version of the x2 6000+ is running $55 on newegg so i guess thats an option.
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December 26, 2009 9:53:32 PM

Get the 6000+, 3GHz. Make sure you have a cooler for it though, as OEM's don't come with HSF's.
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