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December 28, 2009 3:54:57 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ASAP (Tomorrow 12/28/09)
BUDGET RANGE: 600-800 dollars (after rebates is fine)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (Everquest 2, TF2, L4D2), Programming (Web development), Graphic Design (Photoshop CS4), Typical Internet usage, and chatting.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Possibly Monitor (more explained below)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com / Tigerdirect.com / Open for any US good-reputable based shipping company
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: United States

PARTS PREFERENCES: No preference other than the best for gaming.

This is what I have made up for a list. This is not set in stone, but something a friend suggested I go with. I would prefer to get more feedback.
CPU : Intel i5 Quad Core Price: 199.99
VideoCard (Option 1): Nvidia GeForce GTX 275 - 896MB Price: 249.99
VideoCard (Option 2): Nvidia GeForce GTX 275 - 1792MB Price: 319.99
Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) Price: 89.99 ~ Possibly x2 this
Motherboard: ASUS P7P55 LX LGA 1156 Price: 104.99
Harddrive(s): WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Price: 69.99 ~ Possibly x2 this for RAID0 if it would help
Case : Open for anything that will keep it cool and in budget..
PSU : Reasonable 650W Powersupply. Was told Ultra 650w
OpDrive : Any DVD/RW SATA will do, for random burns.. nothing extreme

OVERCLOCKING: Depends on difficulty. As I would probably be told, since I do not have experience with it, i shouldn't.
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Depends on budget, but not necessary

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Depends on Max Resolution of new monitor, if affordable. Otherwise my 17" 1280 x 1024 Monitor will have to do.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: As this PC will be in my room, the quieter the better. As you can see this Rig is already above my desired quota without a monitor. So I was wondering what to do from here to limit my price, keep similar performance, and enjoy my gaming experiences! As mentioned before, the products listed are what I was given. I am not set on them as long as I can get similar performance.

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a b 4 Gaming
December 28, 2009 4:04:33 AM

^ For your needs and budget, you can look into AMD and ATI...
You can get a better card in that budget too...
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a b 4 Gaming
December 28, 2009 4:13:46 AM

CPU + Mobo + RAM
X4 955 + ASUS 790X + GSkillz 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Graphics card - HD 5850 - As powerful as the GTX 285 and in some cases even better...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE + PSU - This 520W can easily power the HD 5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

HDD - Samsung F3 500Gb would be better...as that 500GB is a old one...the new blacks are the 640GB/ 1 and 2 TB ones...
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Total - ~$740 not including DVD...And this would certainly be better in games for sure...
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a b 4 Gaming
December 28, 2009 4:20:08 AM

Just a note: That PSU doesnt come with a power chord as it is an ECO PSU, they cut down on things like the chord, as you can resue the old ones...
But I would like to say that the quality is very good...a single 12V rails with 40A is very good...
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December 28, 2009 4:36:36 AM

gkay09 said:
CPU + Mobo + RAM
X4 955 + ASUS 790X + GSkillz 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Graphics card - HD 5850 - As powerful as the GTX 285 and in some cases even better...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE + PSU - This 520W can easily power the HD 5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

HDD - Samsung F3 500Gb would be better...as that 500GB is a old one...the new blacks are the 640GB/ 1 and 2 TB ones...
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

Total - ~$740 not including DVD...And this would certainly be better in games for sure...


Thanks for the tips.

Curious about a few things here.
Is Raid0 Good for gaming? Should I upgrade ASAP for this? 1 will be fine for now.
I read some bad reviews on the NEWEGG about the MB combo (specifically the MB itself not having an up-to-date bios for newer cards) will this cause an issue for me?
The Power cord is no issue, I have several lying around.
Would I see a bigger performance upgrading my ram to 8 gigs ...
OS will be Windows 7 x64
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a b 4 Gaming
December 28, 2009 4:54:15 AM

1. RAID 0 doesnt offer any advantages for games...Might notice slightly faster load times but I dont think that would be significantly faster though...

2. The BIOS update is required only to run the C3 revision of the AMD CPUs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And again dont worry that the CPU that comes with the combo is a C2 revision...There are no major changes with the C3 compared to the C2 for the 955 CPUs...Only with the 965, they brought down the TDP from 140W to 125W...
Maybe you will notice the difference between a C2 and C3 when you overclock(I mean a high overclock as the C3 would overclock a little higher)...But am sure both can easily hit 3.8GHz with good air cooling...

3. RAM - If you FREQUENTLY use photoshop(CS4 and above as these are 64bit and can take advantage of 4GB and above RAM), video editing, then 8GB would be a good improvement...
But if the PC will mainly be used for gaming and occasionally for other tasks, then I doubt 8GB would be needed...
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December 28, 2009 5:17:48 AM

Awesome thanks again for all your support.

You hit the mark with 800 dollars. After adding the DVD RW it hit $800.89

If only it could be reduced 100 dollars :)  but that is asking for a lot for the build we have here.. would love to see this in action on a 1680 x 1050 Monitor
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a b 4 Gaming
December 28, 2009 5:35:42 AM

^ Yes for that budget, it is a very good build...
And if you want to further reduce the cost, then you can do this...
Change the graphics card to HD 5770 - Not as powerful as the 5850 but for that resolution, it can handle most of the games at decent settings...
HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And change the CASE + PSU to this - 620W PSU Reason ->
The mobo is crossfire capable and the PSU can easily handle 2x HD 5770s in xfire...So later on when you need more graphics power, you can add 1 more in xfire...its performance will be as good or better than HD 5850...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

So this saves about $120...but you would loose out on graphics power...but anyways you will have the option to add one more HD 5770 later ;) 
But its just a suggestion though...
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December 28, 2009 6:05:50 AM

Interesting. Well I may just sell off a few of my old parts on ebay... and put that money towards a decent monitor... figured i could get 150 bucks to put into the monitor.

MB's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (30 bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (30 bucks)

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (40-50 bucks)

Video
XFX Geforce 6800 XT 256MB (sold for 50 bucks already)

and my 3 monitors
Dell 17" LCD - small crack (figured i could pull 20 bucks)
Viewsonic 17" LCD - like new
HP 23" LCD - HP f2105 (pretty f'ed but i think i can sell for a like 20 bucks)
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a b 4 Gaming
December 28, 2009 6:36:59 AM

^ Hmm...yes that would be good...
And yes you can get a good 1080p monitor around $150...
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December 28, 2009 3:06:36 PM

That video card suggested was "Out of stock" this morning when I woke up.

Any particular reason why that one was chosen over the others? or not a big deal? All I can see really is the "price difference"

After reading a few sites on the video card, it suggested minimum requirement for power at 500W ... thats cutting close witha 520w is it not?
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a b 4 Gaming
December 29, 2009 2:11:25 AM

^ There is no particular reason except the price...And which graphic card did you go with ?
And as for the PSU, the company genereally specifies a greater number on the safer side...
You PC wont pull more than 400W even at full CPU + GPU load...So that 520W is pretty safe...
But if you have gone with a bigger PSU, then its fine...
Good Luck with your build... :) 
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December 29, 2009 2:32:38 AM

I checked back at a later time and the one you specified was back to available so i snagged it fast :) 

everything came available according to the specs you provided a little after i posted.

Thanks again :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
December 29, 2009 3:46:22 AM

^ Good...
And also the card comes with Free Dirt 2 game coupon -
Game Bundle:
Dirt2 Coupon x 1*
*The game Dirt2 is bundled in coupon. End user may download the game on-line by using the coupon when the game is officially released.
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