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ATI HD 4350 or Nvidia GeForce 210?

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I'm looking at some budget cards, and these are going for about the same price right now.

I do plan on gaming with them, but the games I play are fairly old C&C Generals, Warcraft III, Morrowind. It's what I like :p

I'm trying to get a card so I can play Oblivion, and do small scale video editing for portable media players.


PNY - NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card
Model: VCGG2105XPB
512MB DDR2 memory; PCI Express interface; 400MHz clock speed



XFX - ATI Radeon HD 4350 1GB DDR2 PCI Express Graphics Card
Model: HD-435X-ZAH2
1GB DDR2 memory; PCI Express interface; S-video output; 800MHz clock speed



I was reading the 210 has more support for Open GL, but I don't really use Open GL. I was trying to find out how many pipelines the 210 has, but nvidia's site only mentions CUDA cores are those the pipelines for nvidia cards?

From the selected specs it seems the ATI card is the best, but what worries me is its lower level of support for certain features than the nvidia 210.


Message edited by klenywyennen on 12-26-2009 at 09:55:21 PM
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They are both consider basic dedicated cards. Both are recommended for HD support and basic office computing.

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If no gaming is going to be put on those cards backs, the better choice will probably be which is quieter and more affordable. If these are not concerns to you either, then you can't really go wrong with either.

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Reply to JofaMang

Yes, either is fine for non-gaming purposes so just go with the cheaper card. If you are gaming those certainly aren't the cards you should be looking at.

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I do plan on gaming with them, but the games I play are fairly old C&C Generals, Warcraft III, Morrowind.

I'm trying to get a card so I can play Oblivion, and do small scale video editing for portable media players.

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http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2491.html

Here's the "winners" from THG's latest (December) GFX Roundup
Best Graphics Cards For The Money: December '09


$50 - HD 4650
$65 - HD 4670 / 9600 GSO
$85 - 9600 GT
$95 - 9600 GT / HD 4830
$110 - GTS 250 512 MB
$120 - GTS 250 1 GB
$155 - HD 5770 / GTX 260
$200 - HD 4890
$240 - 2 x GTS 250
$310 - No winner (HD 5850 Honorable Mention)
$330 - 2 x GTX 260 / 2 x HD 5770
$400 - 2 x HD 4890
$410 - No winner (HD 5870 Honorable Mention)
$465 - No winner (GTX 295 Honorable Mention)
$625 - No winner (HD 5970 Honorable Mention)

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klenywyennen wrote :

Are these second hand or retail prices?


He's been going around spamming all the graphics card's threads with that list, instead of actually reading what the discussion is about.

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I wouldn't consider even trying Oblivion on a g210. The HD4350 may be able to play it but only at low resolution/settings and not well.
For gaming the lowest you are going to want to go is an HD4650 but an HD4670 is the best choice for a low end card these days imo.

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I'm picking these cards since I have a power supply that's maybe 300w, and I don't think they need an external power connector, and they consume low power.

I was think about the HD4350, and I found a chart that compared video cards for Oblivion http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion: [...] o_Chipsets

Reply to klenywyennen

For a bit more, you can get a 4670, which will definitely play Oblivion, and can run off a 300w PSU without drama. It is one of the top rated video cards that is only powered off the PCI slot (no plugs from PSU) and thus is limited to 75w draw, and is generally safe to use with 300w PSUs.

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JofaMang wrote :

For a bit more, you can get a 4670, which will definitely play Oblivion, and can run off a 300w PSU without drama. It is one of the top rated video cards that is only powered off the PCI slot (no plugs from PSU) and thus is limited to 75w draw, and is generally safe to use with 300w PSUs.




Ah, I got a gift card to Best Buy so I'm looking through BestBuy's inventory right now :p

If I find a good deal on another site I'll consider the other recommendations, but Best Buy only has a HD4650, and the 4350.

I'll probably wait a bit too since the shelves are probably bare right now. Pfft shipping :p

Reply to klenywyennen

4650 would be a decent alternative, it won't perform like a 4670, but will definitely be head and shoulders above a 4350, and pull less power than a 4670 to boot.

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Hello:
May I ask another question, please:
My mainboard is Asus M2N-MX: nVidia Chipset.
Therefore, I wonder whether it is suitable if I use 4650 which is made of ATI chipset!

Thank you very much!

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Yes the ATI card will work fine on a nvidia chip set board. By the way you should open a new thread instead of posting your question in someones old thread.

Reply to rolli59

i used to have a shtty 7100gs 128mb and it ran fine.

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