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December 28, 2009 6:45:47 PM

So im building a new Gaming/ Performance PC for myself. I've already purchased most of the components needed.


*Purchased
-Antec 900 Case
-Rosewill 630 Watt PSU
-Intel Core i7 940
-Thermaltake V1 CPU Cooler
-Nvidia 260 core 216 GPU *Superclocked Edition*

*From Previous Builds
-Seagate 80 GB 7200rpm ATA Hard Drive
-Generic DVD/CD Burner
-Windows 7 Ultimate x64
-Asus 26" monitor (1920x1200 res)
-Razer Tarantual Keyboard
-Razer DeathAdder Mouse
-Plenty of 120mm Case Fans

Now all that i need is a nice 1366 Socket Type Motherboard and some fast DDR3 Memory 4~8GB.
I will be planning on overclocking, so i would like the Mobo to have good overclocking reliability.

Do you have any suggestions for a good (sub $200 if possible) x58 Motherboard?

I've been eying these mobo's at Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Any input would be much appreciated :) 

Thanks
-Psyco_Kitty

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December 28, 2009 7:44:04 PM

Rosewill is known for bad PSUs. Hopefully the one you have is not one of their bad ones.

You really dont want to cripple the new computer with that old, slow hard drive. Spend $55 and get a new, fast 500GB Samsung F3 or seagate 7200.12.

The cheapest good x58 motherboard is the ASRock x58 extreme. It got good reviews everywhere, which is rare for ASRock.

You only need a 2x2GB DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600 low voltage (1.65V or less) RAM kit. Its rare that more than 4GB gives you any benefit.
December 28, 2009 8:52:54 PM

dndhatcher said:
Rosewill is known for bad PSUs. Hopefully the one you have is not one of their bad ones.

You really dont want to cripple the new computer with that old, slow hard drive. Spend $55 and get a new, fast 500GB Samsung F3 or seagate 7200.12.

The cheapest good x58 motherboard is the ASRock x58 extreme. It got good reviews everywhere, which is rare for ASRock.

You only need a 2x2GB DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600 low voltage (1.65V or less) RAM kit. Its rare that more than 4GB gives you any benefit.


Yeah im aware that Rosewill isnt the most reliable company and that their products are cheap, but this PSU had very good ratings and a great record.

Im thinking about getting a new SSD but i really don't want to spend $200 on a ssd right now.

Found an ASRock x58 extreme on newegg that was an open boxed item for $125.
That would save me a little bit of money, and seems like a good solid board.
Do you know if its any good for overclocking? any limitations?

So your saying that i should only get 4GB low quality slow ram then? Because i was thinking of getting something like this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks again :) 
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December 28, 2009 9:12:11 PM

Since motherboards are the most RMA'ed component, I wouldnt touch an open box. Its a risk/reward gamble, and I am not a risk taker - some people like taking the chance on a really good deal.

The RAM you picked is CAS 9, you want CAS 7 if you can find it about the same price. Depending on the application, DDR3-1333 at cas 7 will often outperform DDR3-1600 at Cas 9.

You should read the reviews of the x58 extreme here, anandtech, xbitlabs, etc. Everyone who reviewed it was impressed. The x58 supercomputer model of the same motherboard got some bad reviews (see xbitlabs - they liked the extreme but not the supercomputer models).
December 28, 2009 9:29:44 PM

dndhatcher said:
Since motherboards are the most RMA'ed component, I wouldnt touch an open box. Its a risk/reward gamble, and I am not a risk taker - some people like taking the chance on a really good deal.

The RAM you picked is CAS 9, you want CAS 7 if you can find it about the same price. Depending on the application, DDR3-1333 at cas 7 will often outperform DDR3-1600 at Cas 9.

You should read the reviews of the x58 extreme here, anandtech, xbitlabs, etc. Everyone who reviewed it was impressed. The x58 supercomputer model of the same motherboard got some bad reviews (see xbitlabs - they liked the extreme but not the supercomputer models).


So you think that i should just stick with The ASROCK x58 extreme then?

I just found this review (below) and they said that its a pretty decent board but that it had some memory instability issues.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/2864/asrock_x58_extrem...

I understand that low timing speeds mean faster performance, but whats the difference if i go with 4, 6, or 8 GB or memory with CAS 7? More applications multitasking more efficiently? Better game performance? Faster movie/audio encoding?

-Thanks for your time, its much appreciated dndhatcher :) 

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December 28, 2009 11:19:02 PM
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If you are running an X58 motherboard then you will want to take advantage of triple channel memory and run a 3x2GB kit. That ran better in live testing than 3x1GB and 6x2GB in the review here at toms. In theory you could run dual channel and just use a 2x2GB kit, but I have not seen an article with that memory configuration. Triple channel would be theoretically faster than double. If real life lives up to the theory is the question.



More x58 extreme reviews:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cheap-x58-motherboa...
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3593&p=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asr...
http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?cat=&id=200
http://www.mato78.com/artikkelit/emolevyt/9121-asrock-x...
http://www.futurelooks.com/asrock-x58-extreme-motherboa...
http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1923_1...

Basically all (except the one you linked) conclude its a good board for the money, thats why I call it the cheapest good x58 motherboard. There are certainly better ones if you are willing to throw another $30-100 into the motherboard budget.
December 28, 2009 11:50:01 PM

dndhatcher said:
If you are running an X58 motherboard then you will want to take advantage of triple channel memory and run a 3x2GB kit. That ran better in live testing than 3x1GB and 6x2GB in the review here at toms. In theory you could run dual channel and just use a 2x2GB kit, but I have not seen an article with that memory configuration. Triple channel would be theoretically faster than double. If real life lives up to the theory is the question.



More x58 extreme reviews:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cheap-x58-motherboa...
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3593&p=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asr...
http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?cat=&id=200
http://www.mato78.com/artikkelit/emolevyt/9121-asrock-x...
http://www.futurelooks.com/asrock-x58-extreme-motherboa...
http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1923_1...

Basically all (except the one you linked) conclude its a good board for the money, thats why I call it the cheapest good x58 motherboard. There are certainly better ones if you are willing to throw another $30-100 into the motherboard budget.


If i was to wait a little bit and spend another $30-100 as you recommended what other boards could i get?
I mean the AsRock x58 Extreme does everything that i need it to do, except make coffee ;) 
If i threw a little bit more money into a board would it really be worth it in the long run for performance or reliability?
December 29, 2009 6:08:01 PM

Performance or reliability, unlikely. Extra overclocking features, a third PCIE slot for a third GPU.
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