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Need a cooler to get me to 4.5 ghz

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July 14, 2012 3:50:31 PM

Now I'll be overclocking an i5 3570k, and I think it runs about 10C hotter than the i5 2500 on idle. I don't want to spend over 90$, so water cooling isn't an option.

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Could I OC to 4.5 with a 212 evo? And would it run stable?

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a b K Overclocking
July 14, 2012 4:08:11 PM

foshizz said:

Could I OC to 4.5 with a 212 evo? And would it run stable?


The 212+ is an entry level cooler and at best would provide border line temps with that chip.

noctua nh-d14, phanteks ph-tc14pe, or thermalright silver arrow

those are your best options
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August 2, 2012 10:19:22 AM

Thermaltake frio is good option .It is will be able to keep your ivy bridge processor under 80 degree calcius when overclocked upto 4.5ghz but you you'd have to crank the fans upto max RPM while overclocking to keep your temps in the 70's.
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August 2, 2012 11:19:59 AM

cbrunnem said:
The 212+ is an entry level cooler and at best would provide border line temps with that chip.

noctua nh-d14, phanteks ph-tc14pe, or thermalright silver arrow

those are your best options


Totally agree even for a 4.5ghz overclock the OP should be shooting for the coolest load temps possible!

wapda11 said:
Thermaltake frio is good option .It is will be able to keep your ivy bridge processor under 80 degree calcius when overclocked upto 4.5ghz but you you'd have to crank the fans upto max RPM while overclocking to keep your temps in the 70's.


The FRIO is a good cooler but it's clamping assembly seems designed as a total after thought, comparing it's clamping assembly to the ones CB recommended it's really archaic, that's my biggest complaint against the FRIO, but it does cool good.

foshizz said:
Now I'll be overclocking an i5 3570k, and I think it runs about 10C hotter than the i5 2500 on idle. I don't want to spend over 90$, so water cooling isn't an option.

P.S.

Could I OC to 4.5 with a 212 evo? And would it run stable?


The 212 EVO is a just barely get by solution overclocking that 3570K IB CPU, I suggest a better cooler as suggested by cbrunnem, for lower temperature and extended longevity of the CPU.
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August 2, 2012 3:22:06 PM

foshizz said:
Now I'll be overclocking an i5 3570k, and I think it runs about 10C hotter than the i5 2500 on idle. I don't want to spend over 90$, so water cooling isn't an option.

P.S.

Could I OC to 4.5 with a 212 evo? And would it run stable?


Here is the very detailed review of i7 3770k in which thermaltake frio advance is used
http://techreport.com/articles.x/22833/5

In the review you'll see that the Frio was able to keep the 3770k ( overclocked upto 4.4 ghz ) under 70°C. Also keep in mind that 3770k runs hotter than 3570k.

As long as you keep the Vcore in between 1.2-1.3 the frio will have no problem keeping temps under 70°C under load. Besides the i5 3570k can go upto 4.4ghz on stock voltage anyways.

If you want to go above 4.5 than vcore has to be bumped upto 1.3x but this is where the ivy bridge goes nuts!! and gets very hot. For overclocks above 4.5 ghz(only in case of ivy bridge) water cooling is required.




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August 10, 2012 9:09:13 PM

seanhallam said:
The best cooling under 50 bucks is Cooler Master Hyper 212 with 2 Ultra Kaze in Push-Pull. Scythe Ultra Kaze each move 133cfm and are 10 bucks apiece. You can get it under 50 on Amazon or little over 50 from Newegg.
Fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cpu heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


the budget isnt 50 dollars and the goal isnt a 4.2-4.4 overclock its a 90 dollars and 4.5.

also why put 20 dollars into a 30 dollar cooler to get 35 dollars worth of performance.
the fans are a bad aid to a bad cooler. not bad cooler for the money just a bad cooler for this application.

OP get a good cooler not a cheap one if you want that type of overclock. a problem with people recommending that cooler is a lot of them are coming from i5's and they think that the i7's get the same temps and they are wrong. the i7's have hyperthreading and take more volts for a given clock speed in my experience.
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August 10, 2012 9:22:24 PM

Guess your right about the cooler master. But its not gonna be a dramatic change from a CM 212 to a CM V6. I just tried to give a idea that the CM 212 is a nice cooler for the money and as he doesn't want to invest in a closed or custom liquid cooling system. True a Noctua will do better than a CM 212 but your spending double for a little more performance(well unless you get a ugly colored one)
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a b K Overclocking
August 10, 2012 9:55:22 PM

who mentioned a v6? there is a 15*c difference between an evo and a nh-d14
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August 10, 2012 10:14:18 PM

cbrunnem said:
who mentioned a v6? there is a 15*c difference between an evo and a nh-d14

If he had the 90 dollars to spend on liquid cooling he would have bought it. The Nh is also around 90. He wanted something a little cheaper and I suggested the widely popular CM 212.
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a b K Overclocking
August 10, 2012 10:31:29 PM

seanhallam said:
If he had the 90 dollars to spend on liquid cooling he would have bought it. The Nh is also around 90. He wanted something a little cheaper and I suggested the widely popular CM 212.


he said no MORE then 90 plus you can get them for less then 90 dollars.
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August 10, 2012 10:41:55 PM

Yes you can, but according to this benchmark even a Antec Kuhler would be better or a corsair h60, both of which are cheaper. Besides on my computer i have a CM 212 in push pull with scythe ultra kaze, I can assure with the fans going 3000rpm on it, it would score higher than a stock fan NH-D14 on the benchmark, maybe even get in the top 10. Not bad for under $50 dollars, thats why I am recommending it
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-cooler-2011/Load...
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a b K Overclocking
August 10, 2012 10:56:11 PM

seanhallam said:
Yes you can, but according to this benchmark even a Antec Kuhler would be better or a corsair h60, both of which are cheaper. Besides on my computer i have a CM 212 in push pull with scythe ultra kaze, I can assure with the fans going 3000rpm on it, it would score higher than a stock fan NH-D14 on the benchmark, maybe even get in the top 10. Not bad for under $50 dollars, thats why I am recommending it
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-cooler-2011/Load...


thats just not true, those fans move around 133 cfm compared to the nh-d14's roughly 70 cfm BUT its a dual tower cooler so you can approximate that as about twice the cfm.
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August 10, 2012 11:05:58 PM

But you end up paying around double for the NH than you do the CM 212. To me your paying for twice the strain on your mobo and maybe a 2-4C degree change cpu temps. I think if he would like to save money on the cpu cooler but still have 90% the performance of a DH-14 he should get the CM 212.
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a b K Overclocking
August 10, 2012 11:18:30 PM

seanhallam said:
But you end up paying around double for the NH than you do the CM 212. To me your paying for twice the strain on your mobo and maybe a 2-4C degree change cpu temps. I think if he would like to save money on the cpu cooler but still have 90% the performance of a DH-14 he should get the CM 212.


ive gone from a 212 to a nh-d14. temps dropped 10-15*c not 2-4. That was a push pull config as well. you might see around a 10*c dif since you have better fans. You need to do more research on the two coolers.
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August 10, 2012 11:31:15 PM

If it dropped my cpu temps by 10C, believe me i would have made the switch. I think the only cooler that might be able to do that would be the corsair h100 with 4 scythe ultra kaze 133 cfm in push pull. Only reason i have not got a H100 is because of their numerous problems and it would take $150 dollars to make it happen.
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