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I7 920 x58 gaming rig, final list, need opinions

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December 29, 2009 7:37:07 PM

My first thread can be read HERE.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Today or tomorrow, as soon as I can get my list confirmed as a good, compatible build.

BUDGET RANGE: Around $1500

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Internetting, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard/Mouse/Monitor

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: tigerdirect.com or whatever's cheaper

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Always preferred Intel/Nvidia but never tried AMD/ATI, so I can't really say I'm not open to either

OVERCLOCKING: Probably will, once I read up on it.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes, Crossfire for now but having SLI as an option would be really nice in case I decide to switch to Nvidia cards later.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050 for now

I ended up changing my goals and budget a little, to make sure I get a really solid build that can play games like COD:MW2 on maxed settings, so I stopped procrastinating and filled up carts at TigerDirect AND Newegg today and here's what I came up with. I'm posting it here so that you guys can please assure me that everything will work together with the other components and will indeed max out settings with 60+ FPS at 1680X1050 resoultion.

So I basically decided to go with....

CM HAF 932 case
i7 920
x58 Asus P6T
3X2GB trichannel RAM
2 X HD 5770 in crossfire
2 X 500GB HDD (will probably run RAID once I read up more on it)
Windows 7 Home Premium
750 Watt modular PSU (Ultra at TigerDirect, Newegg didn't have Ultra but they had a Rosewill which I think I've heard is better)

I initially was confused if my P6T would run memory faster than 1333mhz, because at Tigerdirect it shows higher compatible speeds, but is denoted with (overclocked) after those speeds on the list. But I read reviews of different memory like the OCZ I selected and people said they dropped it into their P6T's and had no problems, so I decided to go with 1600mhz.

That said, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS COULD REALLY REVIEW MY LIST AND MAKE SURE I'M NOT MAKING A NEWBIE BUILDER MISTAKE. I've done upgrades but this will be my first complete build so I'd really hate to screw up before I even bust out the grounding strap. :D 

Anyway, here's a screen of my TigerDirect cart.



Total of $1,590.35


And I then went to Newegg and tried to make it identical, the only variation is the PSU being a Rosewill deal of the day instead of an Ultra. So here's the screen of that cart.




Another thing, I'm pretty new to Newegg and while I did sift through their combo options, I haven't had much time to because I'm in a hurry to buy. So if you guys are familiar with some combo deals that could save me even more money, any info would be appreciated. This $1500 ish build is really gonna empty the bank, so any money I can save, the better.

How's it look? And I'm guessing since Newegg.com is $90 cheaper, I should probably just drop my past 100% loyalty to TigerDirect and try Newegg for once?


December 29, 2009 7:43:00 PM

Get two Samsung Spinpoint f3's instead, and get a Corsair tx750 instead of that Rosewill. At that res, two 5750's would do instead of two 5770's if you are really trying to shave the budget. A single 5850 would be better.
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December 29, 2009 7:49:44 PM

I would not call rosewill better than Ultra. Ultra is a decent, but lesser known PSU manufacturer. Rosewill makes some good things, but their PSUs have been notoriously bad.

You could save yourself over $100 and have as good of a gaming performance by dropping to an i5 750 and Gigabyte p55a-ud4 motherboard.

If you are using 5770s, you have no need for such a large case. A haf 922 or even an antec 300 illusion will handle those fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 29, 2009 8:12:46 PM

zach538467 said:
Get two Samsung Spinpoint f3's instead, and get a Corsair tx750 instead of that Rosewill. At that res, two 5750's would do instead of two 5770's if you are really trying to shave the budget. A single 5850 would be better.


I considered those, but after viewing benchmarks like this one, I decided to go with the Seagate's which performed a lot better.
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December 29, 2009 8:17:34 PM

dndhatcher said:
I would not call rosewill better than Ultra. Ultra is a decent, but lesser known PSU manufacturer. Rosewill makes some good things, but their PSUs have been notoriously bad.

You could save yourself over $100 and have as good of a gaming performance by dropping to an i5 750 and Gigabyte p55a-ud4 motherboard.

If you are using 5770s, you have no need for such a large case. A haf 922 or even an antec 300 illusion will handle those fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I also considered the i5-750 option, but after viewing tons of benchmarks, I decided that the performance of the i7-920 and P6T was worth the extra bucks. One factor was the 1366 appears to be more future-proof than the 1156, plus I like HT support and just overall, the i7 beat out the i5 on all the reports I saw.

As for the case, it may be overkill, but I wanted a case that would stay plenty cool just on aircooling. And the huge fans run at low RPM's so it'd probably be more quiet than 5 120mm fans revved way up.

As for the PSU, could you recommend a SLI/CrossfireX/PCIE/etc... 750+ Watt modular PSU for around the $100-$130 price range or lower? One that you would prefer over the Rosewill I selected at Newegg. Thanks :) 
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December 29, 2009 8:23:48 PM

dpaul8 said:
One 5850 outperforms two 5770s and it will save you a few dollars:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=5

Only in some some games and only at 1680x1050. Twin 5770s technically beat a single 5850 most of the time (though it so close to the same performance its really not worth going xfire).


Antec TP750 (semi-modular) 80+ bronze.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair HX650 modular. Dont let the wattage fool you, it has a 52Amp 12V rail which is more than most 750W PSUs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 29, 2009 8:23:52 PM

babachoo said:
I considered those, but after viewing benchmarks like this one, I decided to go with the Seagate's which performed a lot better.


That benchamark you linked has the Spinpoint F3 on top... as the best.
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December 29, 2009 8:24:00 PM

dpaul8 said:
One 5850 outperforms two 5770s and it will save you a few dollars:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=5


I find that report suspect, because every other benchmark I viewed today (probably a dozen or more), showed that 2X5770 actually outperform single 5850's and are on par with a single 5870, usually just 3-4 FPS lower. I would rather have a 5870 and be able to add another one later, but there aren't any in stock anywhere, and even if there was, it's kinda rediculous to pay $430 for one IMO.

One question though, I could probably save $50 if I went with a different brand like PowerColor or Sapphire. Are those brands absolute crap or would it be worth the $45-$50 savings?
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December 29, 2009 8:26:00 PM

Aloid said:
That benchamark you linked has the Spinpoint F3 on top... as the best.


LOL Someone give me a "Blind" badge! Thanks, I was looking at the one below, so yeah, I'll definitely swap that out. Thanks a bunch for slapping some sense into me. :) 
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December 29, 2009 8:27:01 PM

No worrys bro the model numbers get confusing sometimes
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December 29, 2009 8:38:04 PM

I understand wanting to xfire the 5770's...I am currently having an inner struggle to convince myself that I don't need to xfire my 5850 as I haven't even found anything really to max out the single one at 1920x1080...but two cards just look so BA in the case:)  Not that anyone besides me even looks inside the damn thing lol
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December 29, 2009 8:43:50 PM

Thanks for the PSU recommendations, all. The $100 instant savings and 1000W of the Rosewill was kinda sexy, but I see that the Corsair 750 is pretty popular so I decided to try it. And I read about how the single 60Amp 12V rail will be pretty stable, and having a single rail means less stuff to figure out, as far as how to manage power distribution.

That said, I'm pretty happy with everything except I'm second guessing my GPU selection now and wondering if it would be worth it to spend $40 more and get the 5870. What would you guys do? And if you did get the 5870 would you get the Asus one with the free Dirt 2 game or get the Gigabyte?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or the XFX XXX edition for $430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Or just stick with the 2X5770's ?
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December 29, 2009 9:00:55 PM

zach538467 said:
Personally I would get the 5870, and to me the better warrant with XFX is worth ten bucks. Not the black edition though, that is a rip off, you can easily overclock it yourself.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks for the input. I'll probably have to sleep on this, It's been a while since I've spent this much money on something that didn't have an engine and 4 wheels. I guess in the morning I'll decide whether to save $50 and get two cheaper brand (like Sapphire) 5770's or spend $50 more and get a 5870.

Until then though, what would you guys recommend for cooling? One of those $70-$80 thermoelectric rigs or just a $20-$30 fan?
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December 29, 2009 9:03:12 PM

CPU Coolers:
Coolermaster Hyper 212 ~30
Xigmatek Dark KNight ~45

Those are within a couple degrees of any aircooler and fairly inexpensive.
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December 29, 2009 9:32:56 PM

I went ahead and added a Coolermaster Hyper 212 and some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound. I guess I'll just have to decide whether to spend $300 on a couple of Sapphire HD 5770's or $410 on a XFX HD 5870. Thank you all for the help so far, you've helped me get more comfortable with the idea of spending $1500 and being able to play games at mindblowingly realistic settings. :) 
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December 29, 2009 9:54:27 PM

dndhatcher said:
Its out of stock right now.


Indeed it is dnd...indeed it is:) 

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December 29, 2009 10:15:06 PM

babachoo said:
I went ahead and added a Coolermaster Hyper 212 and some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound. I guess I'll just have to decide whether to spend $300 on a couple of Sapphire HD 5770's or $410 on a XFX HD 5870. Thank you all for the help so far, you've helped me get more comfortable with the idea of spending $1500 and being able to play games at mindblowingly realistic settings. :) 


Good choice on the 212 you will not be dissapointed you can easily OC up to 3.6 ghz with it
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December 29, 2009 11:51:48 PM

1) Ok maybe 5770 xfire outperforms a single 5850 but the increase in fps is hardly significant. So it's not wise to get xfire 5770 now when a single 5850 goes for the same price.

2) You'll be able to add a 2nd 5850 later on, thus beating 2 5770s, if you go 2 5770s now then you're pretty much stuck with it since your board is 16x/16x/4x.

3) You can OC a 5850 (800mhz & that without touching the voltage) within 6% close to a stock 5870 (850mhz)... overclock.net the 5800s 1ghz club, some lucky one got up to 830mhz.

if it's really just 40$ more for you to get 5870 then get it but I think you miscalculate as it is at least 90$ more.

That's my 2 cents

5870 if you wanna spend extra money

5850 will get you solid for years to come, add in another one later to stretch gaming potential

5770 crossfire doesn't let you futureproof (games)
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December 30, 2009 12:09:50 AM

coolermaster hyper 212+ is great. Kinda annoying to put on but I have my i7 920 @ 3.8 ghz, 1.225v and 35-40 idle and never more then 65 at 100% load!
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January 14, 2010 8:38:49 AM

Well I finally pulled the trigger just now. Thank you all for your great advice, I guess I'll continue to update this thread to let you all know how it goes.

Since in the past couple of weeks, some new mobos with USB 3.0 and Sata 6gb/s have appeared, and since I'm wanting to be as futureproof as possible, I decided to spend a little more time and research them a bit. After reading some discouraging newegg reviews of the Asus P6X58D Premium and seeing that more than a few people have had some issues with bios not posting and no speaker onboard for beep codes, I decided I would roll the dice and add it to my list. So what I actually ended up purchasing is in the screenshot.

I think I did pretty good as far as picking a system that will be able to crossfire/sli, be easy to overclock, run pretty cool and quiet, and save money wherever I can. Order was placed 15 minutes ago, figure it will ship tomorrow and I might see it arrive next wed. or thu. I'll let you know how it goes. :) 


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EDIT: It got cropped out, but shipping was only $20.69 for a total of $1676.57

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January 18, 2010 7:11:02 PM

Very nice system. Should be future proof for awhile:)  Let us know how it turns out.
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