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January 2, 2010 12:54:05 AM

As much as I hate asking for help, I am so lost in this giant world of computer components and accessories....

Anyways, I need some help/advice on picking out the parts for a computer I want to build. Here is kinda the focus of this desktop.

Price Range: $600-900
Purpose: Running AutoCad, Reason, Inventor, Steam. This is going to be more focused towards a workstation. Something I can bring on to college next year. No major gaming on this, just CS:S

Case: I really like the Lian-Li cases. Something solid like the PC-7B.
CPU: Not sure, AMD seems cheaper, so I'd go with that. I was thinking a Phenom II X4 955
CPU Cooler: No idea. I do intend to OC though.
Hard Drive: Maybe 500gigs - 1TB, Im not really sure. Are SSD's worth it yet? Can I fit it in my budget?
PSU: Not sure, I like Antec tho.
MoBo: I was thinking a 790X
GPU: As I said before, run inventor, autocad smoothly, maya...
OS: Windows 7. Should I get 32bit or 64 bit?
Ram: Not sure, I know 32 bit systems can only handle up to 4gigs, but I am not sure if I will need anymore than that for the computers purpose.

Monitor: I already have it.

Sorry I am such a noob at this, hopefully someone can give me some guidance on which brands to choose...

Thank you TomsHardware!

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January 2, 2010 1:40:15 AM

On the lower end (with the PhII x4 955) here is what I'd consider:

CPU - $165 shipped!
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $88 - $10 MIRc = $78!!
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - $117 shipped! Not the fastest GPU, but will do everything quite well. You could even go for the AMD 4670 (no PCI-e power needed) if you want to spend less (~$65-85 shipped).
XFX HD-477A-YDFC Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case/PSU comob - $100 shipped!! You get a nice case and a 500w (34A on the combined rails) for a very good price! The PSU has 2 x 6 pin PCI-e power connectors for future GPU upgrades, if you want/need them. The 4770 only needs 1 x 6 PCI-e power connector, so that leaves 1 more for crossfire or if you upgrade to a bigger (more power hungry) GPU!!
Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail

HD - $55 shipped!! One of the faster HD's out there in the 500gb size. You can spend more and get bigger, but this would be a good OS drive to have. Than just add a data drive (1 TB or larger if you like) if you want more.
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - $94 shipped! One of the better RAM sets you can get that run at stock voltage (1.5V)!
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burner - $39 shipped! You can get OEM versions, but this "Retail" version comes with the software to read/burn DVD's!!
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 24X DVD-R SATA Black 24X DVD Writer - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - $105 shipped! Get the 64 bit version so you can upgrade your RAM past 4 gb's and get full use of the extra RAM!! Now if your a student with an ".edu" email address you can get Windows 7 for $30, so that would be a $75 savings!!
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsft Upgrade for $30, link below:
http://windows7.digitalriver.com/store/mswpus/en_US/Dis...

Total ~$758 - $10 MIRc = $748!!

Obviously you can change the GPU to a 4670 or less if you like. This would reduce your overall cost and not affect gaming too much. The 4770 is a bit better, especially if you get a bigger monitor w/more resolution (1680 or larger).

Edit: I forgot to mention that you can OC the 955 BE easily with a BIOS adjustment. All you have to do is adjust the multiplier of the CPU in the BIOS and you get an instant OC, without any voltage adjustments. You should be able to get to 3.6-3.8 gHz with this adjustment. If you start to push the CPU more, I'd recommend getting an aftermarket CPU HSF to cool the CPU down better. The stock CPU HSF should be fine for stock settings and slight OC's.

CPU HSF - $40 - $10 MIR = $30!! One of the best that you can get for this kind of $!!
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's one that is a bit cheaper ($28 shipped!), especially if you don't like to wait for MIR's:
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 2, 2010 2:14:39 AM

b10n said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you like llianli, youll like this
lancool is a sub company of lianli.
THe only difference is they use steel
this case is completely toolless!

Looks like a good case, but the only problem I see is that the OP will have to add at least a $50-75 PSU onto the $120 case listed ($100 + $20 shipping). It may not be a problem to the OP, but the budget will be closer to $900.
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January 2, 2010 2:24:26 AM

i have a lancool case, they are almost the same as lina-li cases. just without that expensive brushed aluminium.

very much better value IMO.

but lunys build seems very good. no need for a powerful GPU if you are only playing CSS.

and youd only really need a 350-400w PSU (should be plenty for a simple build)
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