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Anonymous
October 16, 2004 3:13:42 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

About an hour ago I went to access my replay guide on my 5160 unit and I
noticed that there was a show missing (empty slot between 2 recorded show),
but the amount of time left was correct. So, I figured that there must be a
little glitch somewhere, so I did a reboot (by unplugging unit). After
everything was up & running I went bach to the channel guide screen to see
if the little problem was fixed. To my horror, I saw an empty channel guide
w/ 55+ hrs available at high record. Replay wasn't that familiar with the
problem but offered some possibilities as to why this might have happened
(one of them being a software glitch), but no info on how to fix it.
Please, can someone tell me what might have happened & if this is fixable?
Is there a way to recover the recorded shows?? I really need them back.
(the unit is networked to a router)
Any help is appreciated.

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Anonymous
October 16, 2004 3:13:43 AM

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In article <GQYbd.103$TU5.86@trndny06>, "maalox" <maalox1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> About an hour ago I went to access my replay guide on my 5160 unit and I
> noticed that there was a show missing (empty slot between 2 recorded show),
> but the amount of time left was correct. So, I figured that there must be a
> little glitch somewhere, so I did a reboot (by unplugging unit). After
> everything was up & running I went bach to the channel guide screen to see
> if the little problem was fixed. To my horror, I saw an empty channel guide
> w/ 55+ hrs available at high record. Replay wasn't that familiar with the
> problem but offered some possibilities as to why this might have happened
> (one of them being a software glitch), but no info on how to fix it.
> Please, can someone tell me what might have happened & if this is fixable?
> Is there a way to recover the recorded shows?? I really need them back.

You "really" need them back? What, will you die without them?

Your hard drive is hosed. Expect this to happen on a device like this.
Don't be surprised when it does. Be prepared to fix it on a regular
basis--by installing a new hard drive with a new image on it, and
starting fresh.

(I have SpinRite; I wonder if it would serve the purpose of preventive
maintenance....I'd hate to have to do all that work on a regular basis,
though...)
Anonymous
October 16, 2004 3:13:43 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:13:42 GMT, "maalox" <maalox1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>About an hour ago I went to access my replay guide on my 5160 unit and I
>noticed that there was a show missing (empty slot between 2 recorded show),
>but the amount of time left was correct. So, I figured that there must be a
>little glitch somewhere, so I did a reboot (by unplugging unit). After
>everything was up & running I went bach to the channel guide screen to see
>if the little problem was fixed. To my horror, I saw an empty channel guide
>w/ 55+ hrs available at high record. Replay wasn't that familiar with the
>problem but offered some possibilities as to why this might have happened
>(one of them being a software glitch), but no info on how to fix it.
>Please, can someone tell me what might have happened & if this is fixable?
>Is there a way to recover the recorded shows?? I really need them back.
>(the unit is networked to a router)
>Any help is appreciated.
>

If this Replay is using an ethernet connection, you might try
accessing the guide from a computer (using something like DVArchive)
or another Replay. It might work that way. Don't record anything else
until you try.

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Anonymous
October 16, 2004 9:59:32 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <GQYbd.103$TU5.86@trndny06>, "maalox" <maalox1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>About an hour ago I went to access my replay guide on my 5160 unit and I
>>noticed that there was a show missing (empty slot between 2 recorded show),
>>but the amount of time left was correct. So, I figured that there must be a
>>little glitch somewhere, so I did a reboot (by unplugging unit). After
>>everything was up & running I went bach to the channel guide screen to see
>>if the little problem was fixed. To my horror, I saw an empty channel guide
>>w/ 55+ hrs available at high record. Replay wasn't that familiar with the
>>problem but offered some possibilities as to why this might have happened
>>(one of them being a software glitch), but no info on how to fix it.
>>Please, can someone tell me what might have happened & if this is fixable?
>>Is there a way to recover the recorded shows?? I really need them back.
>
>
> You "really" need them back? What, will you die without them?
>
> Your hard drive is hosed. Expect this to happen on a device like this.
> Don't be surprised when it does. Be prepared to fix it on a regular
> basis--by installing a new hard drive with a new image on it, and
> starting fresh.
>
> (I have SpinRite; I wonder if it would serve the purpose of preventive
> maintenance....I'd hate to have to do all that work on a regular basis,
> though...)
>

I don't know what you mean by "regular basis", I have yet to have to
replace an upgraded drive with fluid drive in 3.5 years.

Spinrite does not work on non Dos/win file systems.
Anonymous
October 16, 2004 10:08:13 PM

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maalox wrote:

> About an hour ago I went to access my replay guide on my 5160 unit and I
> noticed that there was a show missing (empty slot between 2 recorded show),
> but the amount of time left was correct. So, I figured that there must be a
> little glitch somewhere, so I did a reboot (by unplugging unit). After
> everything was up & running I went bach to the channel guide screen to see
> if the little problem was fixed. To my horror, I saw an empty channel guide
> w/ 55+ hrs available at high record. Replay wasn't that familiar with the
> problem but offered some possibilities as to why this might have happened
> (one of them being a software glitch), but no info on how to fix it.
> Please, can someone tell me what might have happened & if this is fixable?
> Is there a way to recover the recorded shows?? I really need them back.
> (the unit is networked to a router)
> Any help is appreciated.
>
The system directory either contains bad spots or was corrupted. The
mpeg partition is separate and may be recoverable using extract.
DVArchive will not work because it simply emulates another replay. If
this is possible, you would see the shows as unrecognizable numeric file
names (essentially their time-stamps). You'd have to watch the file to
see what it was and then rename it. I would ask some of the guys on the
avsforum for Replay who have picked apart the Replay file system to see
if this is worth the effort.

Did this occur after watching live for an extended period? This can make
the unit run out of space and scramble up the system partition.

After you're finished, you could try to re-certify the drive (Lowlevel
format) and if it passes, re-use it.
Anonymous
October 17, 2004 9:08:33 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

In article <3ridnbzkSNBZBOzcRVn-jw@comcast.com>,
Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> I don't know what you mean by "regular basis", I have yet to have to
> replace an upgraded drive with fluid drive in 3.5 years.

I'm not sure what you said here.



> Spinrite does not work on non Dos/win file systems.

Sure it does:

http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm

It looks directly at the hard drive, independent of the file system.
SpinRite itself runs on Intel-type systems, but it doesn't care anything
about the file system of the disk it looks at.

In fact, it is RECOMMENDED to do the full SpinRite test on a drive
before you put it into a RTV. I upgraded a couple 50xx boxen with 160GB
and 200GB drives, and took that advice. Right out of the box, no
formatting, no nothing, I plugged the drives in and had SpinRite do its
extensive testing to exercise the drive and map out bad sectors. No
problem. (Took 30 or so hours for each drive...)
Anonymous
October 17, 2004 10:23:20 AM

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Actually, it happened after not using the unit for about 24 hrs. I turned
the unit on and one show was missing and after a re-boot (plug removed) the
entire replay guide (all the recorded shows) was missing w/the unit
indicating 55+ hrs available at high record. I had about 50 hrs of stuff on
the drive.
I'll check the avs forum & see what those guys say.
Thanks for the info.

"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ZI-dnaiS4cVTBuzcRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> maalox wrote:
>
> > About an hour ago I went to access my replay guide on my 5160 unit and I
> > noticed that there was a show missing (empty slot between 2 recorded
show),
> > but the amount of time left was correct. So, I figured that there must
be a
> > little glitch somewhere, so I did a reboot (by unplugging unit). After
> > everything was up & running I went bach to the channel guide screen to
see
> > if the little problem was fixed. To my horror, I saw an empty channel
guide
> > w/ 55+ hrs available at high record. Replay wasn't that familiar with
the
> > problem but offered some possibilities as to why this might have
happened
> > (one of them being a software glitch), but no info on how to fix it.
> > Please, can someone tell me what might have happened & if this is
fixable?
> > Is there a way to recover the recorded shows?? I really need them back.
> > (the unit is networked to a router)
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> The system directory either contains bad spots or was corrupted. The
> mpeg partition is separate and may be recoverable using extract.
> DVArchive will not work because it simply emulates another replay. If
> this is possible, you would see the shows as unrecognizable numeric file
> names (essentially their time-stamps). You'd have to watch the file to
> see what it was and then rename it. I would ask some of the guys on the
> avsforum for Replay who have picked apart the Replay file system to see
> if this is worth the effort.
>
> Did this occur after watching live for an extended period? This can make
> the unit run out of space and scramble up the system partition.
>
> After you're finished, you could try to re-certify the drive (Lowlevel
> format) and if it passes, re-use it.
Anonymous
October 17, 2004 5:32:19 PM

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <3ridnbzkSNBZBOzcRVn-jw@comcast.com>,
> Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't know what you mean by "regular basis", I have yet to have to
>>replace an upgraded drive with fluid drive in 3.5 years.
>
>
> I'm not sure what you said here.

Newer drives with fluid bearings last much longer.

>
>>Spinrite does not work on non Dos/win file systems.
>
>
> Sure it does:
>
> http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm

Version 6 apparently does now, Version 5 didn't.
Anonymous
October 17, 2004 7:59:21 PM

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In article <8d6dnTao2rY-Me_cRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> >>Spinrite does not work on non Dos/win file systems.
> >
> >
> > Sure it does:
> >
> > http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm
>
> Version 6 apparently does now, Version 5 didn't.

Yeah, it did. SpinRite's claim to fame has always been low-level, OS-
and format-independent work.
Anonymous
October 17, 2004 8:05:06 PM

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <8d6dnTao2rY-Me_cRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
> Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Spinrite does not work on non Dos/win file systems.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sure it does:
>>>
>>>http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm
>>
>>Version 6 apparently does now, Version 5 didn't.
>
>
> Yeah, it did. SpinRite's claim to fame has always been low-level, OS-
> and format-independent work.
>

I own 5.0. I had a corrupt netware volume. I emailed grc. Not supported.
Anonymous
October 18, 2004 3:21:40 AM

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Once upon a time, the FAT file system was all SpinRite supported. It's only
been quite recently that SpinRite could handle newer file sytems.

Regards,

Margaret

"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:C4idnUBVZNPsTe_cRVn-rw@comcast.com...
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article <8d6dnTao2rY-Me_cRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
>> Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>Spinrite does not work on non Dos/win file systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sure it does:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm
>>>
>>>Version 6 apparently does now, Version 5 didn't.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, it did. SpinRite's claim to fame has always been low-level, OS-
>> and format-independent work.
>>
>
> I own 5.0. I had a corrupt netware volume. I emailed grc. Not supported.
>
Anonymous
October 18, 2004 10:54:56 AM

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In article <ckvcs402ag3@news2.newsguy.com>,
"Margaret Wilson" <twokatmew@nospam.msn.com> wrote:

> Once upon a time, the FAT file system was all SpinRite supported. It's only
> been quite recently that SpinRite could handle newer file sytems.

It isn't doing its work on the file system.
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