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January 3, 2010 10:32:01 AM

My old computer broke down(motherboard died) and i need new computer asap since i make my living on it. I will mainly use it for playing poker and using Poker Tracker 3 ( a program that imports txt files, analyzes them etc.) Also i might play such games as SC2 and Diablo (when they come out).
I Have previously discussed on poker forum and got confused by the deep discussion and i need someone to conclude what should i go for: (below you can see a copy paste from liquidpoker.net)


Thank you all guys, but i got confused even more now. You got into some deep discussion but i need a comptuer asap since i can't play poker. Tommorow i will be heading to the shop and i need a list of parts...
What do you think of previous suggestions? Which one should i choose?

CPU: Intel Core i5 750 BX80605I5750 Processor - 2.66GHz, LGA 1156, 8MB L3 Cache, Quad-Core, Lynnfield, Retail
Mobo: Asus P7P55D LE Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
Graphics: XFX Radeon 5770
Power: Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Harddrive: 500GB SATA2 Samsung HD502HJ 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive
Disc Drive: Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium

VS BeMannerPenner's
Ati Radeon HD 5850
Samsung F3 1TB
Phenom II x4 965BE, 3,400 ghz

VS Lokonious'

Mobo- EVGA 780i FTW
Processor- Q9550
Video Card- x2 GTX 275's
HD- 500gb 32cache 4.2ms response time 7200 Western Digital HD
RAM- GSKILL DDR2 x2 2GB sticks (4gb) 1066mhz ram
Power Supply- Corsair 850 Watt

VS ikc5's
ocket 1156 motherboard, a core i5 processor, 4gb of ram, and an ATI 5770

I know it is really hard to compare these lists since some of them are not full but if anyone could conclude what should i go for mainly for poker+HEM and perhaps SC2 and Diablo i would really appreciate
Thanks again you all
January 3, 2010 11:08:26 AM

Well for your poker playing any of them will do, but since you might want to play SC2 and or Diablo III when they come out, you might want to get the best GPU in the system that you can afford.

Where are you buying your parts from?? If you going to buy them online, than I'd recommend Newegg.com, but if your going locally, than that can pose a problem (unless they have website to do your selections from).

Generally this is how I'd look at this situation:
* If you want similiar performance for less $, than an AMD system would be cheaper than an Intel i5 system.

Here's the break down:
Use these same parts for both systems.

GPU - $155 shipped
SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - $55 shipped!
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

RAM - $100 shipped!! One of the fastest sets out that runs on stock voltages (1.5v)!!
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case/PSU combo - $100 shipped! PSU has plenty fo power for any of your needs!
Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burner - $39 shipped!! Comes with the software to read/burn DVD's!!
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 24X DVD-R SATA Black 24X DVD Writer - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - $105 shipped!!
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now add these items for whatever build you go with

Intel rig:
CPU - $195 shipped!
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $105 shipped! Has plenty of ports and options!!
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3L LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


AMD rig:
CPU - $165 shipped!
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $88 - $10 MIRc = $78!! Has plenty of options and ports for you use!!
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Totals for both systems:
Intel's = ~$859 shipped!!
AMD's = ~$802 - $10 MIRc = $792!!

Now you can see that the AMD system is ~$67 less for almost the same performance. Obviously you can change to different parts, but these are very good parts to start with.
January 3, 2010 12:52:52 PM

Tommorow i will head to shop, it is my father's friend's shop. I bet the prices will be higher there, i will compare them to online ones and then decide should i buy online or from this guy.
I don't need monitors, OS, DVD, keyboard, mouse and speakers. So i hope he could offer me this set up for something like 800~$
BTW i completely forgot to mention that i need a two slot video card that could support 1600x1200 for my two 20' monitors. Will your offered GPU support them?
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January 3, 2010 1:05:06 PM

Also they have their online shop:
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=meniu....

it is in Lithuanian, but you don't need to know the language, you can simply choose the right picture, then the brand and you can order from the list. Just the prices are in Litas, 1$=2.4 litas
If you could set up me a comp from this shop i would appreciate that a lot.
Well anyway thank you a lot!
January 4, 2010 2:39:08 AM

Not much of a selection, so here ya go:
CPU - ~$280
Intel Core i5 750/ 4 Cores/ 4 Threads/ 2.6 Ghz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 45 nm/ 95 W /DDR3-800/1066/1333/ Lynnfield/ BX80605I5750 BOX
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

Mobo - ~$144
GIGABYTE GA-P55-US3L / Intel Core i7/Core i5/ chip P55/ PCI-E x16 slot/ 1 PCIEx16+4*PCI /1*PCI-Ex1+1*PCI-Ex4/ DDR3 2000/1600/1333/1066/800/ 14* USB/ 8 SATAII, 1*PATA/ 8ch/ 1*GbE LAN (Realtek 8111D)/ Dual Bios/ ATX
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

RAM - ~$131
Crucial 4GB kit (2GBx2) DDR3 1333 U-DIMM PC3-10600/ 240-pin/ 1.5V/ 256Meg x 64
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

GPU - ~$137
XFX HD 4770 PCI-E 512MB GDDR5 2XDVI/TV
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

HD - ~$72
Samsung HD502HJ 3.5 500GB/ 7200rpm/ 16MB/ SATA II
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

Case - ~$68
ANTEC THREE-HUNDRED CASE NO PSU BLACK
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

PSU - ~$77
Fortron SAGA II 500W ATX12V v2.3/ Silent 120mm FAN/ Active PFC/ High efficiency PSU/ Retail
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

Total ~$909

Now since there wasn't much selection I had to find quality parts that I could live with recommending.
January 4, 2010 2:50:24 AM

If you still wanted good performance and wanted to save a bit, you could go with these AMD parts listed below. You just use all of the other parts listed and just substitute the CPU and mobo.

CPU - ~$206
CPU Desktop Phenom II X4 945 (3.0GHz,8MB,95W,AM3) box
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

Mobo - ~$107
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3/AM2+/AthlonX2/Athlon64/ AMD 770+SB710/ 5200MHz FSB/ 1x PCI-Ex16, PCI-E 2.0/ 2 + 4x PCI-E X1/ 2ch, 4 DIMM DDR3 1333/ 1066/ 800/ 12x USB2.0/ 6x Serial ATA2, 1x PATA/ 0, 1, 0+1,JBOD/ GbE LAN (Realtek 8111C/D)/ 3x 1394a/ AL
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/index.php?puslapis=preke....

Total would adjust to ~$798!!!
January 4, 2010 7:25:45 AM

wow you and this forum are awesome. Thank you a lot.
Just i noticed that for a same price online i would get much *stronger* computer. Now the reall question is where should i buy from...
January 4, 2010 7:56:13 AM

Mostly worried about 512 video card...
January 4, 2010 12:13:48 PM

Went to father's friend shop and was really surprised by the price they offered the set-up, take a look and please give me last (really last) answer/suggestion

Mobo:MB P43/ICH10 S775 ATX/GA-EP43T-UD3L GIGA-BYTE 251
CPU:CPUC2Q 2660/1333/6M S775 BX/Q9400 BX80580Q9400 S LB6B IN 587

RAM:MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138
RAM:MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138

GPU: VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/128B R5770-PMD1G MSI 554

HD: HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166

supply:Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
case: CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157

Price:2111 litas /880USD~

Mobo:MB P43/ICH10 S775 ATX/GA-EP43T-UD3L GIGA-BYTE 251
CPU:CPUC2Q 2660/1333/6M S775 BX/Q9400 BX80580Q9400 S LB6B IN 587

RAM:MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138
RAM:MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138

VGA 1GB GDDR3 PCIE16 9800GT/256B SX98GT1024D3G-VP SPARKLE 312

HD: HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166

supply:Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
case: CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157

Price: 1869litas/ 778$~

I went with my requirements and suggestions and they offered these two set-ups, basically they said it is not worth getting 5770 because there won't be use of it right now, and offered me a GT9800 instead, which is 100$ cheaper. The guy also said that i should buy 5770 at least after 1 year or so it will be much cheaper and bug free(modified).
So which video card would you suggest?


January 4, 2010 12:26:11 PM

Well I'd still go with the 5770. It outperforms the 9800 easily. The setup that they are selling you is dead end. Intel's s775 is at the end of it's life. It will work, but there selling you old stuff (as far as I'm concerned). Go with whatever makes you feel good, but you would be better off with one of the two rigs that I linked for you. It took me quite a bit of time to find good parts on their website. The PSU listed in their build is questionable. I wouldn't spend hard earned $ on a marginal PSU. The PSU is the lifeblood of your system and if it doesn't give you clean and consistant power, than some of your parts my fail prematurely. It's up to you, but that is what concerns me.
January 4, 2010 12:36:17 PM

I just phoned him, he agreed to put 5770 and he will change PSU according to it. But he still recommened me to go for Intel s775, he said the new ones are troublesome or smth like that. Now i am confused, would your offered
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3L LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard or
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
fit in this set-up?
January 4, 2010 12:37:35 PM

I need to make final decision about the mobo and i am ready to go...
January 4, 2010 3:29:40 PM

1#

Garantija
36 MB AMD 770/SB710 SAM3 ATX/GA-MA770T-UD3P GIGA-BYTE 248
36 CPU ATH II X4 630 SAM3 BOX/95W 2800 ADX630WFGIBOX AMD 338
24
36 MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145
36 MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145

36 VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/128B R5770-PMD1G MSI 554

36 HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166
36
12
12
12 Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
12 CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157
12
12
1873

2#

Garantija
36 MB P55 S1156 ATX/GA-P55-US3L GIGA-BYTE 337
36 Intel Core i5 750/ 4 Cores/ 4 Threads/ 2.6 Ghz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 45 nm/ 95 W /DDR3-800/1066/1333/ Lynnfield/ BX80605I5750 BOX 636
24
36 MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145
36 MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145

36 VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/128B R5770-PMD1G MSI 554

36 HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166
36
12
12
12 Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
12 CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157
12
12
2260

3#
Garantija
36 MB P43/ICH10 S775 ATX/GA-EP43T-UD3L GIGA-BYTE 251
36 CPUC2Q 2660/1333/6M S775 BX/Q9400 BX80580Q9400 S LB6B IN 587
24
36 MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138
36 MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138

36 VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/GV-R577D5-1GD-B GIGA-BYTE 567

36 HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166
36
12
12
12 Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
12 CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157
12
12
2124
A power supply that provides at least 450-watt and with one 75w 6-pin PCIe power

For which one of these 3 would you go? (now that's really the last request) You helped me a lot, i really appreciate that.

January 4, 2010 6:49:48 PM

Removed unneccesary details

1#


MOBO: MB AMD 770/SB710 SAM3 ATX/GA-MA770T-UD3P GIGA-BYTE 248
CPU: CPU ATH II X4 630 SAM3 BOX/95W 2800 ADX630WFGIBOX AMD 338
RAM:MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145
RAM:MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145

vid: VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/128B R5770-PMD1G MSI 554

hd: HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166
case: Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
supply:ASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157

price: 1873 litas/ 780USD.

2#


Mobo:MB P55 S1156 ATX/GA-P55-US3L GIGA-BYTE 337
CPu Intel Core i5 750/ 4 Cores/ 4 Threads/ 2.6 Ghz/ Turbo / 8 MB Cache / 45 nm/ 95 W /DDR3-800/1066/1333/ Lynnfield/ BX80605I5750 BOX 636

ram: MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145
ram: MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145

vid: VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/128B R5770-PMD1G MSI 554

hd: HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166

case: Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
supply: CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157
Price: 2260/ 942usd
3#

Mobo: MB P43/ICH10 S775 ATX/GA-EP43T-UD3L GIGA-BYTE 251
cpu: CPUC2Q 2660/1333/6M S775 BX/Q9400 BX80580Q9400 S LB6B IN 587

ram: MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138
ram: MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC6400 DDRII/AM1 73.G21E9.000 APACER 138

vid: VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/GV-R577D5-1GD-B GIGA-BYTE 567

hd: HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166

case: Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
supply: CASE PSU ATX2.2 580W/SPS-XP580.(12)R XILENCE 157
price 2124/885usd
January 5, 2010 1:41:33 AM

Option #1 is the best value, IMHO. It also leaves room for upgrade later (option #3 is a dead end socket = s775).

2 things I'd change in Option #1 would be:
CPU - ~$206 Adds +$66 to cost
CPU Desktop Phenom II X4 945 (3.0GHz,8MB,95W,AM3) box
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/inde [...] D&filtras=
Now if they had a PhII x4 955 Black Edition CPU, than I'd get that, because it has an unlocked multiplier (free and easy OC of the CPU)!!

PSU - ~$77 Adds +$11 to cost
Fortron SAGA II 500W ATX12V v2.3/ Silent 120mm FAN/ Active PFC/ High efficiency PSU/ Retail
http://parduotuve.entiumas.lt/inde [...] N&filtras=

Those changes will give you quite a performance boost and also give you some stable and reliable power (Fortron PSU). I know this might be nit picking, but I don't recommend ANY generic PSU for anyone. I've had enough run-ins with cheap generic PSU's. Your cost would go up $77 over the initial build cost ($780) to ~$857. This would be about equivalent, if not better than Option #3.
January 5, 2010 6:09:41 AM

bought this one:
MB AMD 770/SB710 SAM3 ATX/GA-MA770T-UD3P GIGA-BYTE 248
CPU PHEN2 X4 945 SAM3 BOX/95W 3000 HDX945WFGMBOX AMD 487

MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145
MEMORY DIMM 2GB PC8500 DDR3/APA DL.02GAH.F7M APACER 145

VGA 1GB GDDR5 PCIE16 HD5770/128B R5770-PMD1G MSI 554

HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC 166



Codegen ATX-6232-A1-USB/Audio (silver/black) 120
Fortron SAGA II 500W ATX12V v2.3/ Silent 120mm FAN/ Active PFC/ High efficiency PSU/ Retail 178


2043

Thank you very much, you are really great (and pacient) person :) 
January 5, 2010 9:09:40 AM

Your very welcome. Please come back and let me know how things worked out.
January 5, 2010 10:10:32 AM

damn he phoned and said that they are out of stock of the hd:HDD SATA 500GB 3GB/S 32MB/GREEN P. WD5000AADS WDC
and offered this one HD502HJ 3.5 500GB/ 7200rpm/ 16MB/ SATA II for the same price... what shall i do?
January 5, 2010 10:25:55 AM

yeah that is a good HD, so get it! It runs faster than the green drive you listed!!!
!