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$900 i5 build FINALIZING

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week BUDGET RANGE:800-1200

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: photo/video editing, working with graphics (adobe cs4), surfing the net, school work (office 2007), general use. I don't game.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:OS, MONITOR. Keyboard, mouse, speakers I can pick myself.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: canadacomputers.ca, tigerdirect.ca COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada

PARTS PREFERENCES: I have a list of parts i've selected for this build in the additional comments section.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080 (maybe dual-screen later).

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This is my first build and i'm not very experienced in computer hardware. here are the parts i've selected so far (with help from others).
CPU $199.97
Intel Core i5 750 Quad-Core Socket LGA1156, 2.66Ghz, 8MB L3 Cache, 45nm
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4959973&CatId=4731

GPU $74.97
XFX Radeon HD 4670 Video Card - 1GB GDDR2, PCI Express 2.0, CrossFireX Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, HDMI Support
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5256326&sku=P450-4670

RAM $99.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=026157&cid=RAM.346.539

MOBO 1 $154.99
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 Socket 1156 Intel P55 Chipset Dual-Channel DDR3 2200/1600/1333/1066/800Mhz 2x PCI Express x16 7.1-Ch HD Audio 2x SATA 6Gb/s+6x SATA 3Gb/s GigaLAN 2x USB 3.0+12x USB 2.0 ATX
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=027168&cid=MBD.842
*the only reason I want to go for this one is because it supports usb 3.0 and sata 6gb/s which should increase longevity, but it has issues:
if i were to use crossfire, sata 3 and usb 3 would downgrade to normal mode due to a p55 limitation.
if i were to use sata 3 and usb 3 in turbo mode, the first pci-e lane drops down to x8 instead of x16.

MOBO 2 $104.99
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 Socket 1156 Intel P55 Express Chipset Dual-Channel DDR3 2200/1333/1066Mhz 2x PCI-E X16 8-Ch HD Audio 7x SATAII 1x eSATA GigaLAN IEEE1394 Micro ATX
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=025602&cid=MBD.842
*i want to go with this one because its really cheap and low end. ill stay with it for now and when pci 3.0, sata3, usb 3.0 are all common, ill buy a new mobo. The problem with this board is that its two MOSFET's are not cooled, and may overheat in O/Cing. I've seen people who have overclocked with this board to near 4ghz, but i don't want to worry about burning my mobo.

HD $99.99
Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1001FALS) 1000GB (1TB) SATAII 7200RPM 32MB Cache (OEM)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018887&cid=HDD.443.877

PSU $78.99
Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX 12V 41A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=015941&cid=PSU.731

Case $62.99
Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case ATX 3/0/(6) 2xUSB Audio No PS
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018460&cid=CAS.664

DVD Drive $29.99
Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE SATA Black 22X DVD-Writer OEM
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=027426&cid=MDD.184


MOBO 1 TOTAL $801.88
MOBO 2 TOTAL $751.88


Questions:
1)Which mobo? The reason I want to go for the ud3 is because it has usb 3.0 and sata 6 gb/s support which should provide longevity but it does have the issue of downgrading usb 3.0 and sata 6gb/s to normal modes when you do crossfire. i don't game so i won't be needing crossfire anyway. is it worth it?

2)i'm going to be overclocking, and i don't think the stock fan will suffice. which cooler should i get?

3)if i wanted to get more ram, do i have to jump up to 8gb or can i buy a 2gb one?

4)is everything compatible? is this a good build?

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. I really want to start buying parts now.
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  1. Hey man,

    I'm buying a similar build. My second build in 7 years, so i'm quite rusty @ current hardware as well.. however, for the past 3 weeks i've been researching the heck out of this kinda system (at first i wanted to go on an i7 system, but realized it would be waste considering i plan on mostly playing games).

    Anyways, first of all i'll show you my build :

    CPU : Intel Core i5-750 Tray
    CPU COOLING UNIT : Hyper 212 Plus
    Mobo : ASUS P7P55D-E Pro
    Memory : 2x2GB G.Skill Ripjaws Edition Dual Channel CL7
    HD : Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 3.5" 1000GB SATA2 32MB
    GPU : HIS HD 5850 1GB (256bit) DDR5 PCI-E
    DVD Burner : SAMSUNG GH-22NS50 DVDRW
    Case : CoolerMaster HAF 932
    PSU : Antec TruePower 750W

    and that's yours (for comparison) :

    CPU : Intel Core i5-750 Tray
    CPU COOLING UNIT : -
    Mobo : GA-P55A-UD3
    Memory : G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600MHz 4GB (2x2GB) CL9
    HD : WD1001FALS WesternDigital 1TB Caviar Black
    GPU : XFX Radeon HD 4670
    DVD Burner : Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE SATA Black 22X DVD-Writer OEM
    Case : Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case
    PSU : Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550W

    Ok, so that's that. All of what i will
  2. Best answer
    *** up anything. I went as far as ordering this mobo from another country cause it's not available where i'm from. also, i heared asus's better for overclockers, and someday, i also intend to overclock.

    Memory : great choice. seeing the difference between cl9 and cl7 where i'm from is about 10$, i decided to go on better timings.

    HD : Overall i heard from several sources the Samsung F3 is the best around atm, although i also heard good things about the caviar black. Either way, it's good :P

    GPU : Man, you bought a lousy GPU, but seeing you don't game i guess any gpu will suffice. I strongly suggest putting some more money to buy a better one, though, because it can affect overall performance.

    DVD Burner: you can't really go wrong with that one, can you ?

    Case : I heard the antec 300 is a great case, i'm not sure how roomy it is (keep in mind that if you do go for the hyper 212 plus, you'll need room).

    PSU : Corsair's great and 550W will be just fine, i believe.

    that's it :P

    for you questions :

    1) Although i prefer asus, if you do go for the GB, i suggest going for the usb 3 & sata 6. if you don't game, you won't crossfire and cripple it, and when those technology will start popping up, you'll be able to use their full potential.

    2) like i said, i heard it's good for o/cing (not over 4ghz, though :P )

    3) I'm not sure, and i don't wanna mislead you.

    4) everything's compatible and it's a.o.k =P

    Yair
  3. Hey. I think you have great taste. I built a similar machine in a hurry, back in early October. In my case, it's an i7 860 on a GA -P55M-UD2, with G.Skill memory and an ATI 4670. So far, I am pleased with most of my choices.

    I got an Antec case that came with a PSU, an EA 380. In theory, it's all I need, according to this calculator. But it only has a 2x2 CPU power plug, while the MB will accept a 4x2.

    This is great for routine use, but the MOSFET's are not cooled on the UD2. Even though a reviewer said (in comments) that he was able to OC the UD2 and had no problems at load, I am leery of overclocking with this board. I am waiting for a GA P55A-UD3R to come to the US so I can finish building my own OC machine. So I think your top choice is the best available.

    There are many top-notch PSU's available. Just stick with brand names, and check the reviews before you buy anything.

    As for cases, the quiet ones seem to have straight metal sides you can apply dampening sheets to. The ones set for cooling tend to be more open. I got an NZXT Beta Evo for my OC project. The problem with it is that its PSU filter is hard to service, so I will be running my PSU upside down. The things I paid attention to:

    --A window in the MB tray to allow you to get to the back of your MB for working with heatsink braces.

    --PSU on the bottom. Otherwise, the PSU fan is ingesting warm air from the case and will have to work harder (and louder) to stay cool. Of course, this may be less of an issue up in the temperate part of the world where you live.

    And remember that you will likely be supplementing your case with fans.

    I don't see a heatsink listed for your system. The Intel cooler will barely be enough to do routine work. You will not be able to OC with it. I have a Megahalems, but a better choice would have been the Noctua D14. It's pricey, but it comes with its own fan. And with a heavy cooler you have to suspend it from the case.

    There are other choices, far less expensive, that others can recommend.
  4. For RAM, I need to decide between these two (one has better timings and one has faster speed):
    $105 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR 3 1333 (PC3 10666) Timings 7-7-7-21
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276&cm_re=g.skill_ddr3-_-20-231-276-_-Product

    $99 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timings 9-9-9-24-2N
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277&cm_re=g.skill_ddr3-_-20-231-277-_-Product

    Regarding the mobo, I will sacrifice the x16 to x8 performance drop when i use the sata3/usb3.0 and go with the GA-P55A-UD3. Here are some reasons why I prefer it over the GA-P55M-UD2:
    -more overclock capabilities because the UD2 has MOSFET's which are not cooled and can overheat
    -the UD2 is a microATX board, and ATX is prefered because in micro some components may be blocked (generally a tighter fit)

    As for the GPU, I am considering the 4850:
    GPU $145
    XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150351
    Do people think that I will benefit from a 4850 instead of a 4670 when I don't game? But I do edit HD video with vegas/adobe cs4, and use photoshop a lot. Also, i get a great deal with the 4670 (only $75!)

    Regarding the Case:
    This case here has PSU in the bottom and I believe the panel behind the mobo tray opens. Here is the link:
    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=023780&cid=CAS.664
    Deciding from these images, it seems to open up behind the mobo tray:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ImageGallery.aspx?CurImage=11-119-197-S06&ISList=11-119-197-S01%2c11-119-197-S02%2c11-119-197-S03%2c11-119-197-S04%2c11-119-197-S05%2c11-119-197-S06%2c11-119-197-S07%2c11-119-197-S08%2c11-119-197-S09%2c11-119-197-S10%2c11-119-197-S11&S7ImageFlag=1&Item=N82E16811119197&Depa=0&WaterMark=1&Description=COOLER%20MASTER%20HAF%20922%20RC-922M-KKN1-GP%20Black%20Steel%20%2b%20Plastic%20and%20Mesh%20Bezel%20ATX%20Mid%20Tower%20Computer%20Case
    Does the NZXT BETA EVO have a window in the MB tray?

    Heatsink:
    I'll go with the hyper 212 plus

    Yet to decide:
    4850 vs 4670, will i really benefit? (NOTE: I do get a great deal with the 4670, i'd have to pay $57 more for 4850)
    Which RAM? Better timings or better speed? Note that the better speed ones have gotten an amazing review on newegg.
    Which case? Does the HAF 922 mid tower have a case behind the mobo for working with coolers?
  5. You might want to go with a i7 860 it has HT and will be a better pick then the i5 750 for your uses, You can read this review http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3641
  6. iAsterisk said:
    For RAM, I need to decide between these two (one has better timings and one has faster speed):
    $105 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR 3 1333 (PC3 10666) Timings 7-7-7-21
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276&cm_re=g.skill_ddr3-_-20-231-276-_-Product

    $99 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timings 9-9-9-24-2N
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277&cm_re=g.skill_ddr3-_-20-231-277-_-Product


    Yet to decide:
    Which RAM? Better timings or better speed? Note that the better speed ones have gotten an amazing review on newegg.



    I would get this set
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318
    Much better and same price.
    7-7-7-21 @ 1.35v with heat spreaders that conform tightly to the ram so they dont stick out like most of the Ripjaw series and get in the way of coolers. I use them personally.
  7. iAsterisk said:

    Do people think that I will benefit from a 4850 instead of a 4670 when I don't game? But I do edit HD video with vegas/adobe cs4, and use photoshop a lot. Also, i get a great deal with the 4670 (only $75!)


    I was looking at the 4670 for a system that I plan on using photoshop on quite a bit. I looked around and it seemed photoshop is cpu instead of gpu intensive, so the 4670 should be just fine on that account. As for editing video you might need a better video card. I'm not sure though
  8. I decided on the ECO RAM, the radeon 4670, antec 300, and the ud3. Here is what I am about to order:
    CPU $214.97
    Intel Core i5 750 Quad-Core Socket LGA1156, 2.66Ghz, 8MB L3 Cache, 45nm
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4959973&CatId=4731

    GPU $74.97
    XFX Radeon HD 4670 Video Card - 1GB GDDR2, PCI Express 2.0, CrossFireX Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, HDMI Support
    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5256326&sku=P450-4670

    Cooler $29.99
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

    RAM $104.99
    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318

    MOBO $154.99
    Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 Socket 1156 Intel P55 Chipset Dual-Channel DDR3 2200/1600/1333/1066/800Mhz 2x PCI Express x16 7.1-Ch HD Audio 2x SATA 6Gb/s+6x SATA 3Gb/s GigaLAN 2x USB 3.0+12x USB 2.0 ATX
    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=027168&cid=MBD.842

    HDx2 for Raid 0 Setup $99.99x2= $200
    Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1001FALS) 1000GB (1TB) SATAII 7200RPM 32MB Cache (OEM)
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018887&cid=HDD.443.877

    PSU $78.99
    Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX 12V 41A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=015941&cid=PSU.731

    Case $62.99
    Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case ATX 3/0/(6) 2xUSB Audio No PS
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018460&cid=CAS.664

    DVD Drive $29.99
    Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE SATA Black 22X DVD-Writer OEM
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=027426&cid=MDD.184

    TOTAL $951.88 CND
    Including tax+shipping = $1088.03
    I will order parts within a few days.
  9. Looks pretty good. Hope that memory works for you I just ordered the same kit.
  10. In my i7-860 build I just did, I went with the G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM). I pulled this off the Canada website you had, it looks different than mine (color), but the model numbers match up to it on NewEgg.

    I'm very happy & pleased with it thus far. However, the ECO RAM looks good as well. From a quick glance, it looks like the main difference is the PC 12800 vs. PC 10666 in the ECO RAM. A noticeable difference? I'm not an expert here, but I wouldn't think so... but I'm sure your application may influence how much of an impact this makes.

    Steve
  11. I just found a great deal on the GA-P55A-UD3R on Canada Computers.ca:
    http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=025601&cid=MBD.842
    Only $117.99 after mail-in rebate.
    What is the difference between UD3 and UD3R? I've seen a lot of people overclock with the UD3R, so does the difference have to do with overclocking?
  12. This might not be helpful but based on Gigabyte's website the power design of the UD3R is better for over-clocking. Other then that they seem to be almost the same board. Though i think the UD3R may have more SATA and eSATA ports.

    Hope that's helpful
  13. I'm done with buying the parts. Here is my final build if anyone cares:
    HD
    WD Caviar Black 1TB SATAII 7200RPM 32MB Cache (WD1001FALS) x2
    From: CANADA COMPUTERS NORTH YORK
    Reg. Price: $211.98
    Bought Price: $199.98

    CPU Cooler
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 120mm
    From: NEWEGG.ca
    Price: $29.99

    GPU
    HIS Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 (H467QS1GH)
    From: NEWEGG.ca
    Reg. Price: $84.99
    Bought Price: $79.99

    MEMORY
    G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2x2GB) 240-pin DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) SDRAM (F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO)
    From: NEWEGG.ca
    Price: $104.99

    CPU
    Intel Core i5 750 (BX80605I5750)
    From: CANADA COMPUTERS NORTH YORK
    Price: $229.99

    PSU
    Corsair TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
    From: CANADA COMPUTERS NORTH YORK
    Reg. Price: $109.99
    Bought Price: $79.99 (including $21 mail-in-rebate)

    MOBO
    Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3
    From: CANADA COMPUTERS NORTH YORK
    Price: $154.99

    DVD
    LG GH22NS50 Black SATA DVD-Writer 22xDVD+R/-R 8xDVD+RW/6xDVD-RW 16xDVD+R DL 12xDVD-R DL 48x CD-R 32xCD-RW OEM
    From: CANADA COMPUTERS NORTH YORK
    Price: $34.99

    CASE
    Antec Three Hundred
    From: CANADA COMPUTERS NORTH YORK
    Price: $62.99

    TOTAL: $977.90

    I went with the 650W because it would have cost me the same as the 550W.
    I also bought two of the WD Caviar Black's 1TB to set-up raid 0, ill see how that works out.
  14. I just set up my computer using the same memory and power supply. Seems to be working well. You might want to manually set the voltage for the memory, I read somewhere that if you don't it doesn't use the right voltage, though don't take my word on that. Good luck on setting everything up
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