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NVDIA 9800GT (1 GB) VS ATI 4850 (512 MB)?

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December 31, 2009 4:37:57 AM

WHICH 1 TO GO FOR ??
I HAVE ALSO LEARNED THAT ATI 4850 HAS HEATING ISSUES ?
PLZ LOOK AT THE MEMORY ALSO !!
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December 31, 2009 5:59:52 AM

ATI HD 4850 is comparable to 9800GTX/988GTX+ so its faster than a 9800GT,also 512MB vs 1GB won't make a noticeable difference in most games
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December 31, 2009 6:06:26 AM

1. +1 Mazair
2. Don't use all caps
3. Neither can use all 1GB of RAM, but the 4850 will use it more effectively than the 9800GT
4. 4850 doesn't have any real heating issues, choose a specific manufacturer

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December 31, 2009 6:07:15 AM

The extra memory does help out and I wouldn't waste a nickle on a 512 card anymore.
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December 31, 2009 7:27:57 AM

No heating issues with Hd 4850.

Heating issues are generally due to poor airflow inside the case.

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December 31, 2009 7:59:12 AM

swifty_morgan said:
The extra memory does help out and I wouldn't waste a nickle on a 512 card anymore.

No,because first HD 4850 is a faster card and also if the OP was comparing 2 same cards with 512MB vs 1GB memory,the difference wouldn't be much either,here is a good review:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14230
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December 31, 2009 9:05:05 AM

I second the motion for the 4850, unless you want to go nVidia then grab a 1GB GTX 250, right now it's the exact same price (cheapest vs. cheapest). Plus there is a slight performance gain w/ the nVidia card.

Forget about the 9800 GT, it's a waste of time, just a re-branded 8800 GT.

LOLZ @ me, the GTX 250 is a rebranded 9800 GTX+
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December 31, 2009 10:07:14 AM

Well i think you meant GTS 250 right :)  ?
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December 31, 2009 11:46:58 AM

Between those 2 the 4850 is the better performer. Like menioned above, any heating issues would be due to poor case airflow or while running 2 in crossfire with again poor airflow. Manufacturers aren't in the business of selling cards that overheat.
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December 31, 2009 3:34:35 PM

Maziar said:
Well i think you meant GTS 250 right :)  ?


lol, yeah, I meant GTS 250. I was reading some heavy reviews between the HD 4890 and the GTX 260.
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December 31, 2009 4:41:28 PM

It happens for me many times too :D 
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December 31, 2009 5:58:22 PM

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GTS 250 by far! Both 9800GT and HD 4850 are pretty bad cards. The GTS 250 performs as good as a HD 4850 if not better and it costs just slightly more than the 9800GT which costs quite a bit lesser than HD 4850


pretty bad cards, where the hell are you from, these were/are some of the best price/performance cards out there (9800GT a bit old though)

and the 4850 is on par with the GTS250 and the same price (give and take between brands)
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December 31, 2009 6:01:29 PM

I agree with the idea of getting either a GTS 250 or 4850. Forget the 9800GT.
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January 1, 2010 6:13:07 AM

GTS 250 is a good card.
But 9800GT and Hd 4850 are not bad cards by any means.
8800GT/9800GT was the most popular card of its time.Its still in the race.
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January 1, 2010 6:14:46 AM

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No GTS 250 is cheaper and performs better. Besides it got physx and cuda and all that. I guess...


Do some research. GTS 250 is about the same as the 4850 but IMO 4850 is the winner. Especially with DirectX 10.1.
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January 1, 2010 6:47:33 AM

The difference between GTS 250 and HD 4850 isn't much,so its better to go with the cheaper one
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January 1, 2010 11:00:25 AM

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No GTS 250 is cheaper and performs better. Besides it got physx and cuda and all that. I guess...


actually they are the same price

though i should specify that is here in the US and on newegg, probably different in a different country and store
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January 1, 2010 11:20:42 PM

I think the final decision comes down to what kind of MOBO and CPU he has right now, he may have a board that's not compatible w/ either, or maybe he has an AMD which actually really likes ATI (duh). An Intel will be happy w/ either, again depends on his MOBO.
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January 1, 2010 11:37:59 PM

DZeroENT said:
I think the final decision comes down to what kind of MOBO and CPU he has right now, he may have a board that's not compatible w/ either, or maybe he has an AMD which actually really likes ATI (duh). An Intel will be happy w/ either, again depends on his MOBO.




I got intel DG41RQ mobo, Q8400 @ 2.66 ghz processor.
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January 2, 2010 12:31:04 AM

I would say the GTS 250 route since your northbridge does not support DirectX 10.1

You have more than enough CPU for a decent gaming computer, I think it would be a great pair. If you overclocked a bit you would get a little better performance, but not fantastically better. However if you got a decent MOBO your overclocking potential would benefit greatly.
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January 2, 2010 12:33:36 AM

DZeroENT said:
I would say the GTS 250 route since your northbridge does not support DirectX 10.1


How does the northbridge support or not support DX10.1?
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January 2, 2010 12:36:29 AM

Because the original design was never intended for it, maybe the it was not released at the time of the MOBOs release, I always felt that updates slow the performance of hardware unless formatted for it.
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January 2, 2010 12:38:02 AM

DX10.1 for MOBO?
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January 2, 2010 12:38:18 AM

The northbridge simply facilitates communication between the GPU & CPU via raw PCI-E lanes, the info traveling between the GPU & CPU is not affected by the northbridge.
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January 2, 2010 12:42:48 AM

Then how come northbridges perform differently in accordance to different video card manufacturers?
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January 2, 2010 1:53:41 AM

DZeroENT said:
I would say the GTS 250 route since your northbridge does not support DirectX 10.1

You have more than enough CPU for a decent gaming computer, I think it would be a great pair. If you overclocked a bit you would get a little better performance, but not fantastically better. However if you got a decent MOBO your overclocking potential would benefit greatly.




If i go with ati 4850 will my mobo take it ??
I got intel DG41RQ mobo
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Yes
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January 2, 2010 2:05:32 AM

DZeroENT said:
I would say the GTS 250 route since your northbridge does not support DirectX 10.1


What on Earth are you talking about???
The northbridge has nothing to do with it :heink: 

DZeroENT said:
Because the original design was never intended for it, maybe the it was not released at the time of the MOBOs release, I always felt that updates slow the performance of hardware unless formatted for it.


The motherboard and the current version of DirectX at the time have nothing to do with one another you really need to do some research before handing out inaccurate advice.

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Then how come northbridges perform differently in accordance to different video card manufacturers?


Say what?
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January 2, 2010 2:07:26 AM

Exactly what I was thinking.
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January 3, 2010 3:33:02 AM

I did the research, I've been doing research on this for the past 6 months all in part of a build I put together. I had to know everything I possibly could about motherboards, CPU architecture, as well as maximizing the benefits of the combination of both w/ a video card. This is the best information that I could gather, yes his computer will run an ATI just fine, however I feel that an nVidia solution would perform better. Plus a lot of games usually pair w/ nVidia video cards vs. AMD/ATI. But hey, what do I know right? I'm not claiming to be an expert, but only based on forums and statistics provided by Tom's Hardware, I came to these conclusions.
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January 3, 2010 3:40:58 AM

The 4850 & GTS 250 are neck & neck, go with the cheaper one, or the one you want.
On his computer, it would act like any other, the 4850 & GTS 250 would be neck & neck.
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January 3, 2010 12:49:01 PM

+1^ That's what i said :) 
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January 4, 2010 7:54:31 AM

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The 4850 & GTS 250 are neck & neck, go with the cheaper one, or the one you want.
On his computer, it would act like any other, the 4850 & GTS 250 would be neck & neck.



I have heard that 4850 has drivers issues and it is not compatible with some games.
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January 4, 2010 8:13:25 AM

That's not true
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January 4, 2010 9:53:41 AM

godspeedz said:
I have heard that 4850 has drivers issues and it is not compatible with some games.



Why you hear rubbish?
Ask them for proof....
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January 6, 2010 9:49:30 PM

Either card should make you happy.

As others said, the northbridge has nothing to do with DirectX...that depends on your graphics card and operating system to support.

As for compatibility, most cards' drivers have occasional issues with some games. Read the "readme" of the driver for the cards you're interested in, to see if the specific games you play have any known issues. ATI usually has the information when you go to select a driver to download. I'm sure NVidia has it easy to find, also.
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January 6, 2010 9:56:18 PM

Stop worrying about ATI's drivers, that's caused by noobs who try to use their original drivers & ask why nVidia's drivers don't work with ATI cards.
As many said get the cheaper 4850/GTS 250, the 4850's stocks are shrinking, price will probably increase soon.
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