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December 31, 2009 8:35:11 AM

Hi,

I was wondering if Nvidia GTX 295 series, will fit in my system without any problems.
Because I'm concerning that my PSU wont have enough power to support it.
Any suggestion will be helpful.

PS: please send me the website page for shopping and information.

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a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 10:11:39 AM

Okay, before i suggesting, please list the rest of your system... :) 
December 31, 2009 4:20:11 PM

im using onbaord GPU right nowso here is my system:-

Win XP 46-bit SP2,
AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition,
8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 402MHz (5-5-5-15),
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H,
1TB Samsung,
Tochiba CD/DVDW and
PSU 850W (but i donno wat make it is).
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December 31, 2009 4:29:05 PM

you can run it great

min - 650w
great - 800 and +
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 4:37:39 PM

Should be no problems, although powersupplies are very much like paint: Some are whitewash, others fine high gloss-Have a look at the rating label and tell us what its says on the +12v line or lines, just to be sure its not whitewash;)
As for shopping, where are you?
As for the card, it's expensive and can be hard to find, perhaps something a little less expensive and power hungry might be a better choice? To that end, what is your monitor/s resolution/s?
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 4:44:03 PM

HD5870 is a better buy. Not quite as powerful although its close but it's also cheaper, DX11, single GPU(no scaling issues) and uses much, much less power.
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 4:57:01 PM

^Oh dear.
December 31, 2009 5:20:26 PM

Quote:
Should be no problems, although powersupplies are very much like paint: Some are whitewash, others fine high gloss-Have a look at the rating label and tell us what its says on the +12v line or lines, just to be sure its not whitewash;)
As for shopping, where are you?



I live in UK and this is all I have found, i add some others jsut in case:-

+12 V: 37 A
+5 V: 53 A
+3.3 V: 35 A

-5 V: 0.8A
-12 V: 1.0 A
+5 V/SB: 2.0 A

Quote:
As for the card, it's expensive and can be hard to find, perhaps something a little less expensive and power hungry might be a better choice? To that end, what is your monitor/s resolution/s?


About that i would prefer GTX 295 because I want to use it atleast minimum 5 years and more. untill there are high recommended games that cant handle it in the future.
December 31, 2009 5:22:55 PM

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You can run it like butter and cream AND DONT LISTEN TO THE GUY THAT SUGGEST HD 5870. GTX 295 has better performence and its cooler and nvidia has far better quality.


true, I had XFX ATI hd 4870 x2, it was broken and i send it to RMA and they got me a new 1 and it was still faulty and i have been waiting for 2 months and more for it untill i got bored waiting. so i ask them for my money back.
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 5:38:25 PM

Please recheck the rating label: 37A on the 12v output sems very low, you may have miread it, although, given the high +3.3v and +5v outputs it looks like it is a less expensive unit, based on an old design.
If you have not misread it (and it is easily done) that PSU should not be used for a GTX295, it does not have enough output on the +12v line for such a card.
For a replacement PSU look for: Antec, OCZ, Corsair and Seasonic as top notch, with Thermaltake and Coolermaster as cheaper, not quite so good suppliers.
A few places to begin your hunt: Dabs, Novatech, CCL, Ebuyer, Scan, Pixmania, Microdirect and Overclockers.
December 31, 2009 5:51:28 PM

coozie7 said:
Please recheck the rating label: 37A on the 12v output sems very low, you may have miread it, although, given the high +3.3v and +5v outputs it looks like it is a less expensive unit, based on an old design.
If you have not misread it (and it is easily done) that PSU should not be used for a GTX295, it does not have enough output on the +12v line for such a card.
For a replacement PSU look for: Antec, OCZ, Corsair and Seasonic as top notch, with Thermaltake and Coolermaster as cheaper, not quite so good suppliers.
A few places to begin your hunt: Dabs, Novatech, CCL, Ebuyer, Scan, Pixmania, Microdirect and Overclockers.


So what do I need to know which 1 is the right PSU to buy, because the PSU might be low, but i read it right. its stats like that.
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 6:18:32 PM

Something like this is a better choice, lower Wattage but much higher quality. And it's modular, so no messy cables.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

This is not the only one out there, I'm just giving you an example of what to look for, a quality unit with the right outputs and connectors (OCZ website shows it as having 2X 25A +12v outputs, plenty for the GTX295).
December 31, 2009 6:26:22 PM

coozie7 said:
Something like this is a better choice, lower Wattage but much higher quality. And it's modular, so no messy cables.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...

This is not the only one out there, I'm just giving you an example of what to look for, a quality unit with the right outputs and connectors (OCZ website shows it as having 2X 25A +12v outputs, plenty for the GTX295).


But GTX 295 required minimum 650W and its state on the guide book, how will 600 support it then??? just curiose.
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 7:02:30 PM

sahmipower said:
true, I had XFX ATI hd 4870 x2, it was broken and i send it to RMA and they got me a new 1 and it was still faulty and i have been waiting for 2 months and more for it untill i got bored waiting. so i ask them for my money back.

Maybe you should take that as a reason to avoid dual GPU cards instead. Just sayin...
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 7:03:53 PM

The 650W requirement is not the main issue, it is the +12v output that is importaint, as long as a powersupply can match, or exceeed that requirement, and has the correct connectors, you'll be fine.
If you want more peace of mind, go for something larger, but quality and +12v amperage is more importaint than wattage.
Again, just as an example:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 7:09:49 PM

Yes, it's the +12v rail that matters a lot moreso than the supposed overall power. If your current unit really only has 37 amps it's quite possible that those HD4870x2s that you mentioned weren't faulty at all, they simply weren't able to run on that PSU.
December 31, 2009 7:13:56 PM

jyjjy said:
Yes, it's the +12v rail that matters a lot moreso than the supposed overall power. If your current unit really only has 37 amps it's quite possible that those HD4870x2s that you mentioned weren't faulty at all, they simply weren't able to run on that PSU.


Looks like OP just got a revelation.
December 31, 2009 7:14:09 PM

jyjjy said:
Yes, it's the +12v rail that matters a lot moreso than the supposed overall power. If your current unit really only has 37 amps it's quite possible that those HD4870x2s that you mentioned weren't faulty at all, they simply weren't able to run on that PSU.


thanks. I just realized it, i didnt knew that +12 v rail had to do with anything. I thought Watt was important :S
December 31, 2009 7:16:53 PM

Watt = (Newton * Meter) / Second
(n*m)/s.

Someone fell asleep when their science teacher was discussing voltage, wattage, amperage.
December 31, 2009 7:18:05 PM

The PSU is nice, but maybe you should get a 5870 instead?
December 31, 2009 7:29:32 PM

sabot00 said:
The PSU is nice, but maybe you should get a 5870 instead?


Why do u recommend 5870 then GTX 295??
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 7:43:46 PM

I already went over that earlier in the thread;

"HD5870 is a better buy. Not quite as powerful although its close but it's also cheaper, DX11, single GPU(no scaling issues) and uses much, much less power."

Overall the GTX 295 is about 10-15% faster but the HD5870 is better in almost every way otherwise. I didn't even mention eyefinity which is pretty cool if you are interested in it;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UeHJEeuLc8
December 31, 2009 8:29:57 PM

sahmipower said:
Why do u recommend 5870 then GTX 295??


I never recommended the GTX 295.
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 9:36:53 PM

@ Sabot00: Watts also= W=VxI (Watts=VoltsxAmps), your equation is for mechanical Wattage, not electrical;) , there is a difference.
As for the card, I would have suggested the HD5870, but if the OP wants a GTX295, and has made his (or her) view clear.
a b Î Nvidia
December 31, 2009 11:31:34 PM

The 295 uses 194 watts ...for comparison purposes.....

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-310-5970,24...

Here's the "winners" from THG's latest (December) GFX Roundup
Best Graphics Cards For The Money: December '09

$50 - HD 4650
$65 - HD 4670 / 9600 GSO
$85 - 9600 GT
$95 - 9600 GT / HD 4830
$110 - GTS 250 512 MB
$120 - GTS 250 1 GB
$155 - HD 5770 / GTX 260
$200 - HD 4890
$240 - 2 x GTS 250
$310 - No winner (HD 5850 Honorable Mention)
$330 - 2 x GTX 260 / 2 x HD 5770
$400 - 2 x HD 4890
$410 - No winner (HD 5870 Honorable Mention)
$465 - No winner (GTX 295 Honorable Mention)
$625 - No winner (HD 5970 Honorable Mention)
!