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Need help upgrading to i7 920 system

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January 4, 2010 1:35:59 PM

current rig:

CPU: Q6600
MOBO: Evga 650i Ultra
GPU: Evga gtx 260 216
PSU: Corsair tx650w
Case: haf 932
RAM: Ocz platinum revision 2 ddr2 800
hsf: Corsair h50

thinking about upgrading to..

CPU: i7 920 (i'm not going with i7 860)

MOBO: $350

Gigabyte UD7 (replaceable if someone will suggest a mobo that's best for the money..)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: $170 (3x2gb) all ddr3 1600. been choosing on these:

G. Skill ($150) 9-9-9-24 1.5V – 1.6V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G. Skill Ripjaws Series ($160) 8-8-8-24-2N 1.6V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G. Skill Pi Series ($165) 8-8-8-21 1.6V -1.65V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G. Skill Pi Series ($165) 7-8-7-24-2N 1.5V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Gold ($150) 8-8-8-24 1.65V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair XMS3 ($155) 9-9-9-24 1.65V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline ($170) 8-8-8-24 1.65V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I will be selling my cpu, mobo and ram for about $300 (i found a buyer)
this $300 will be used to buy motherboard. (my mom will add $80, so around 380 for the mobo)

I have around $200 for the i7 920 which will be bought in microcenter.

ram will be shouldered by my sister, so around $170 only.




I'm planning to buy the mobo in zipzoomfly.com (no tax and free ship). is it ok to buy in this website?

also, is there any mobo that you guys can suggest? I'm leaning towards the ud7 because of the sata 3, usb 3.0, heatsink on the northbridge, and the 24phase. but it's the cost that's holding me back. is it worth to invest in a high-end mobo like the gigabyte ud7?

lastly, about the ram, which is the best? i'm looking at the mushkin and g. skill pi series because of the looks on it, and also, how to choose ram based on the voltage?

Thanks in advance!

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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2010 1:45:02 PM

That mobo is way overpriced and completely overkill. I highly recommend the Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P for $185. It's got the same main features, just fewer PCIe 16x slots, which anything over 2 is completely unnecessary.

With the amount you save on the board, you could get a new video card. Specifically, the HD 5770. The new 5xxx series ATI cards are the best available right now...

RAM: The 7-8-7 Pi series sticks are the best in the list. The most important spec of the RAM is the timings (or CAS Latency). Faster RAM (ie 1600 mhz vs. 1333 mhz) makes little difference in performance, and will increase the price.

I'd also recommend getting a new HDD. The newest 500 GB platter drives (Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB or 1 TB and Seagate 7200.12 500 GB or 1 TB) are cheap and extremely fast. They're even faster than the 10K rpm VelociRaptors. This may not be necessary, depending on the age of the HDD you're using, but its something to consider.
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January 4, 2010 4:20:26 PM

I saw the gigabyte ud4p. Shouldn't i go with usb 3.0 and sata 3 now (futureproof)? and also, i'm leaning towards the ud7 because of its added features(24phase, nb heatsink, smart tpm (bluetooth thing). how about the asus p6x58d? i just want motherboards that have on board audio of alc 889 because it has the loss less delivery of 24bit/192khz audio (bluray truehd). i only saw p6x58 from asus that have this audio onboard. ud7, ud5 and other gigabyte have it. which is a 1step better/higher than ud4p? other than ud5?
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2010 4:26:30 PM

You saw the P55 not the P55A. The P55A has the USB 3.0 and SATA 6 GBps ports. The P55 does not.

The P55A has the bluetooth supports. The P55A also has ALC889.

Frankly, there is no reason to spend $350 on a motherboard. It doesn't affect performance that much.
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January 4, 2010 4:30:33 PM

You are leaning towards the UD7 for SATA/USB 3?...
Tell me exactly why you want SATA 3 and USB 3?

here is a little information:

SATA 1 (1.5GiB/s)=187MB/s
SATA 2 (3.0GiB/s)=375MB/s
SATA 3 (6.0GiB/s)=750MB/s

Answer these questions:
-Are you going to have a Hard Drive or Solid State Drive?
-Name me 1 Hard Drive that can acheive 187mbps transfer.
-Name me 1 Solid State Disk that can acheiver a transfer over 375mbps.

Unless you have a monster HDD/SSD Raid Configuration, you cant even come close to exceeding SATA 2, so why do you need SATA 3?....(no storage config in your budget will acheive this.)

Now, about USB 3.0.
Answer these questions:
-Do you have or will you buy an External HDD/SDD that supports USB 3.0 in the future that you will connect to your PC?

^If not, you have no use for USB 3 either as all devices except for external storage that you will find use of will be for USB 2 and not ever exceed it :) 
-If you had a larger budget i would reccommend a ud7 but for you, there are much more important things to be concerned about then a heatsink on the northbridge lol

-Next about components and ram, tell us what your uses of the PC will be for, gaming...etc be specific.That way i can tell which ram or parts are best for you.

And BTW your old build is really good.
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2010 4:50:18 PM

@blackhawk: The OP's old build is probably still decent, but it's not really good.

The purpose of the USB 3.0/SATA 3 isn't for current use. It's a future proofing option. I personally don't see the ports being needed in the next 3-4 years, but for only a little more, you can get something that will be future proof. That's the advantage. There is literally no price difference in the good 1366 boards with USB 3/SATA 3 and the good board without the ports. So why build a new computer that doesn't have the new technology available when it's the same price?
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January 4, 2010 5:03:47 PM

well, if i'm not going to spend on mobo with usb 3.0 and sata, what do you guys recommend? i'm looking at

asrock x58 extreme
p6t (which version is the best?)
the best mobo from gigabyte (is it ud5?)

suggest please..mainly used for gaming...

don't mind the gpu upgrade. i'll upgrade my cpu first because it's taking its age now and maybe it will become more harder to sell...
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2010 5:05:57 PM

I'm not saying you don't need it. I'm saying you don't need it now. You will need it in the future, especially if you're going to try to sell it later.

The P55A-UD4P is still my recommendation. Regardless of the USB 3/SATA 3 debate, it's still an excellent board at a great price.
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January 4, 2010 5:10:36 PM

it's a p55 mobo. i need a 1366/x58..
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
January 4, 2010 5:18:47 PM

Whoops. Got my threads mixed up. Having a very similiar discussion about boards on an i5 build...

I retract what I was saying about the USB 3/SATA 3. For the 1366 sockets, the price difference is a lot. So they're probably not worth it.

For Gigabyte, the only options are the UD5 and UD7.

Frankly, all of the three boards (x58, P6T, UD5) are good boards. If I recall correctly on the ASUS boards, the only difference in the versions is the number of SATA connections and the RAM standards. I also think the prices are vastly different. So I'd recommend staying with the basic edition. It's cheaper, and the main difference is the speed of the third PCIe slot, which shouldn't matter anyway.
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January 4, 2010 5:22:29 PM

sure, thanks!

which of these?

1. foxconn bloodrage (only 3 sticks, how am i going to deal with that? 3x4gb costs a lot!)

2. msi x58 pro-e
3. gigabyte ud5
4. asus p6x58

these mobos support alc889 (loss less audio)
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January 4, 2010 5:31:23 PM

i will be oc i7 920 to 4.0 ... just 4.0. is it easy to reach that oc with corsair h50? where can i find the gigabyte ex58a ud5?
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January 4, 2010 5:47:59 PM

how about rampage ii extreme?
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January 4, 2010 11:26:51 PM

please help me guys!
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January 5, 2010 9:58:28 PM

Quote:
please help me guys!


I thinks you're getting carry away.

True is, you don't need to spend $350 on a motherboard, look if gaming is your only purpose, then you better off upgrading to i5 and a good video card.

I can guaranteed you, that you will see double the performance than what you would see on a i7 920 and a crappy video card.

Anyhow, I can understand that you're an enthusiast and going for good parts satisfy you as it does satisfy everyone.
take at look at this great combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

and its under your budget, 300+80+200+170=750

the Asus P6T Deluxe v2 is a great board top of the line, yes it doesn't have the new sata ports, but you are not paying for it either, you are a gamer, not a studio movie maker who needs to render "Avatar" in 3D.

In a game all that matter is your processor and video card, those are the things that you need to worry about, I have game on a pc with a WD raptor and one with a Seagate 250GB, both have the same AMD 955, MSI 790FX, ATI4890 and they both pull 55fps in Crysis on a 24" monitor everything on very high no AA enable.

Of course if i was you i would go back to my drawing table, and make a plan where a 5850 is included altogether with a i5 750, and that my friend is a gaming machine.

let me give you an example:

1. Intel BX80605I5750: $194.99
2. ASUS P7P55D Deluxe: $219.99
Combo Discount: -$25.00
Combo Price: $389.98
great combo for the price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB)
$93.99
Free Shipping
Good memory at a great price to match the i5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and of course a shiny
5850 ASUS EAH5850/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
$309.99
$7.87 Std. Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Grand Total: $801.83 I think this is the best part you only need an extra 50

I think that the best part is the fact that you only need to add a second 5850 and 3 22'' monitors and i can guaranteed you that gaming would never be the same. :whistle: 
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January 6, 2010 2:20:05 PM

man, the q6600 is a great processor. why pay so much for a 10-20% increase.....honestly its a waste of money...better off with 4gb dominator ddr2-1066mhz and 5890 card....or another gtx 260.....
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