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August 2, 2012 1:25:34 AM

Hey guys so I've recently come to the conclusion that the H60 just isn't cutting it, the performance is rather horrid. So I've decided that I'm going to water cool my rig. I only plan on cooling the CPU as I'm wanting to keep it rather simple and as cheap as possible(I know water cooling isn't cheap). So far the only thing I don't need is a radiator, buying a used one off craigslist. It's a Thermochill 240 for $60 (Is this to much for a used radiator?) and if any of you have any extra water cooling parts i would be happy to take them off your hands. So I'm completely clueless as to what fittings I need, tubing, pump and reservoir. So I'm going to be cooling my 960t, I know, I know it's not worth it but I don't have the spare money to build a Intel rig. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Austin

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a c 138 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 2:06:26 AM

A single water cooling loop consists of a pump , a radiator , a resivoir , tubing and fittings and the liquid. The best liquid that you can use is distilled water or pre water and add some anti microbal fluid. If you want color then you can get color tubing or add some dye to the water. You also want to make sure that you have a fill point and a drain point. In a simple loop the tubing will go from the pump to the cpu block then to the resivoir then to the radiator and then back to the pump. The fill point is usually around the resivoir as it will have several ports in it and the ones you don't use you'll have to put plugs. The drain point can be any place that is accessable, A good place that I get a lot of water cooling parts from is performancePc.com and another place that's a little more expensive is Frozencpu.com.
You will need a fitting for each port that tubing goes to , like there will be two for the cpu block , two for the pump , two for the radiator , two or three for the resivoir. Then you have to measure the tubing footage that you need. The fittings will either be compression or standard barb fittings and since your trying to save monet you may want to go with standard barb fittings. The size of the tubing is also to be determined and the fittings have to match. The tubing is 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD for the big size and 3/8" ID and 5/8"OD. For the next size lower.
ID is Inside Diameter
OD is Outside Diameter
The good/better tubing has a 1/8" thickness tubing wall and the avarage tubing has a 1/16" thicknss tubing wall. With a barb fitting the OD is not important but it is when bending the tubing since the thinner walled tubing will kink on you.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

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If you want to go with a pump/resivoir combo;

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Here is a selection of things that you can look at.
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August 2, 2012 2:54:31 AM

So would it be easier to go with a bay res/pump or a pump and res separate? As for setting up a fill and drain port.
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a c 138 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 4:35:46 PM

It might be easier for the first time to have a res/pump combo to keep the loop simple and managable. You wil have to get used to the filling process because air is the biggest obstruction you will face. As you fill liquid you have to let the air out or it will block the liquid from filling and you could have air pockets which will stop the flow of liquid.
A combo also cuts down on expense since you don't need tubing or fittings to go between the resivoir andd pump.
The bay reivoir usually has a port on the top and you would use that for filling because tat would be the best option to get the res. filled and don't forget that water seeks its own level so while your filling the fill point wants to be the highest point so a good thing to do is to put a fitting on the top of the resivoir and attach a length of tubing that would be the hight of the top of the case so when your filling you won't have liquid coming to the top of your fill poit. You then should have a stop fitting for the end to seal it.
The drain point will be the opposit and should be the lowest point of the loop so it will drain and to get the loop to drain yopu will have to take the stop fitting off the end of the fill point so there will be air able to enter and the liquid will flow out.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

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These are some of the parts needed for fill point and drain point.
There is a good amount of a learning curve to get to a point where you will be comfortable with the water cooling setup and kno what to use and how to use it. It does take a while and the thing is to learn from what you do and not be afriad to try things.
There is one other thing and that is to test the loop without turning on the computer so you can see if there are any leaks . This is so that if there are the computer won't be on and power running through the MB and liquid getting on live power parts causing shorts.
You take the main MB power connector and remove it from the MB and you insert a jumper into the holes of the green and black wires , that will start the power supply without pushing the on button on the case. It's actually called the " paper clip test".

http://dodji.seketeli.com/downloads/shuttle-psu-paper-c...
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a c 324 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 5:05:17 PM

There is another example for jumpering a PSU in the watercooling sticky with 20 and 24 pin ATX plugs.
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August 2, 2012 6:50:42 PM

Alright so I make this http://gyazo.com/4846d324318f9b77d9ebcdfcda0c1430 very professional looking :D  also I'm assuming this is the order that will look the cleanest and be the simplest. And so far I'm pretty sure I need 2 90 degree fittings one for the cpu out and rad. in and I assume 3 45 degree fittings for res. out, cpu in, and rad. in. But I plan on waiting to buy fittings until i have all of the big parts and have them test fitted. And that's for the tip on jumping your psu but i already knew that :p 
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a c 138 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 7:17:12 PM

That's ok , I don't know what you know so it's better to say it then not to.
The good thing about the fittings is that there are a lot of different combinations that you can come up with to get the tubing to look neat and profesional.




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August 2, 2012 8:18:25 PM

Alright so this it what I have so far.

Res/pump: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Now I'm not sure about the res/pump because it's on $50 and doesn't mention what pump it includes, so do I still need to get a pump?

CPU block: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Completely open to other blocks, just don't want to spend over $70 on it. And it's a am3+ board.

Rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Most likely getting this unless I can find a used one in the classifieds or craigslist.

Tubing: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Have heard people talk about primochill so I'm assuming it's good. If you suggest any other tubing just make sure it's clear.

And for fittings I'm going to wait on those until have big parts. But if you can suggest a fill port and drain port I would appreciate it.
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a c 138 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 8:50:00 PM

It most likely has a generic pump inside and it does mention that there is a pump there and gives the specifications of it. The thing is that usually it costs $50 or more for a pump so in this case I would question the quality of the pump. I'm sure it's not a very strong one and it would be good for a single loop with jst the cpu block
The cpu block os the one I had suggested so as long as the socket type matches what you have then it will be good.
Thge radiator is a good choice and you really can't get a new radiator for less then $50 and I wouldn't want it if there was.
Tygon tubing is most likely the best that you can get and it comes in clear and black.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
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a c 324 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 8:53:47 PM

austinwillis81 said:
Alright so this it what I have so far.

Res/pump: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Now I'm not sure about the res/pump because it's on $50 and doesn't mention what pump it includes, so do I still need to get a pump?

CPU block: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Completely open to other blocks, just don't want to spend over $70 on it. And it's a am3+ board.

Rad: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Most likely getting this unless I can find a used one in the classifieds or craigslist.

Tubing: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Have heard people talk about primochill so I'm assuming it's good. If you suggest any other tubing just make sure it's clear.

And for fittings I'm going to wait on those until have big parts. But if you can suggest a fill port and drain port I would appreciate it.


You essentially just pieced together an XSPC Raystorm kit. Why not just buy that instead? It has everything you need if this is your current list.


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August 2, 2012 8:57:28 PM

Alright so I will go with the Tygon tubing, any particular preference on ID?
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August 2, 2012 8:59:34 PM

rubix_1011 said:
You essentially just pieced together an XSPC Raystorm kit. Why not just buy that instead? It has everything you need if this is your current list.

I did. LOL I'll take a look at it.
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a c 324 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 9:02:20 PM

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Alright so I will go with the Tygon tubing, any particular preference on ID?

I like Primochill LRT over Tygon or Feser- same performance/flexibility, cheaper price. I've used all 3. All are great, so all things considered, I go with cost. Primochill also seems to have more color options.

XSPC kits usually run 7/16"ID tubing with the kit fittings. You can always change those and tubing size if you'd like.
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August 2, 2012 9:31:56 PM

Ok so one last question what it your opinion on using 7/16 ID tubing in 1/2 barb fittings without using clamps?
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a c 324 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 9:41:29 PM

It works if that's what you want to do. You might want to dip the tubing ends in hot water before you pushing over the barb to make it a bit easier.
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a c 138 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 10:14:18 PM

I'm not sure that I wouldwant to use a barb fitting without clamps , that's just asking for trouble , the inside of the case gets warm or hot for some reason and bam there's fluid all over the place.
If you want to use a fitting without clamps then you can try one that's made for that.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

These fittings also loo pretty cool and they ar compression fittings.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
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August 2, 2012 10:17:59 PM

inzone said:
I'm not sure that I wouldwant to use a barb fitting without clamps , that's just asking for trouble , the inside of the case gets warm or hot for some reason and bam there's fluid all over the place.
If you want to use a fitting without clamps then you can try one that's made for that.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

These fittings also loo pretty cool and they ar compression fittings.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...


Thanks for the info I think I will stick to barbs with clamps for safety.

Thank you to everyone that helped me it was really helpful. Wish I could select multiple best answers:/
But there should be a build log sometime this month hopefully.:) 
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August 2, 2012 10:18:22 PM

Best answer selected by austinwillis81.
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a c 138 K Overclocking
August 2, 2012 10:20:39 PM

If you run into any issues don't hesitate to come back , we're always here to help.
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