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Anonymous
October 27, 2004 5:11:48 PM

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Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
anybody been able to do this successfully?
Thanks
Anonymous
October 27, 2004 8:58:21 PM

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On 27 Oct 2004 13:11:48 -0700, redgem@mlode.com (Jeannine) wrote:

>Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
>looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
>features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
>to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
>good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
>in/out because they seem to degrade the picture.

It's about as good as you can get from satellite. You can use S-video
if you want (it's associated with Replay input 2). RF connections are
worse (and audio is not stereo).

> And we also have a
>really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
>the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality.

ANYTHING will degrade it somewhat. I guess you mean you don't want to
degrade it any more than necessary. Does your sound system support
digital audio input? That sounds like the best choice.

> Has
>anybody been able to do this successfully?
>Thanks

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Anonymous
October 28, 2004 3:32:47 AM

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I think the best the Replay will display is 480P output. You need to have
that on your TV. I assume you would if you have an HD receiver. Otherwise,
the Replay won't record HD programming.


"Jeannine" <redgem@mlode.com> wrote in message
news:2cf2eca2.0410271211.4779c2bf@posting.google.com...
> Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
> looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
> features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
> to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
> good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
> in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
> really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
> the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
> anybody been able to do this successfully?
> Thanks
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Anonymous
October 28, 2004 6:45:52 AM

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Jeannine wrote:

> Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
> looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
> features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
> to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
> good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
> in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
> really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
> the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
> anybody been able to do this successfully?
> Thanks

First, Condgradulations on making the best choice in DVR (Replay is much
more versitle than Tivo)

Second... You have choices in your inputs with the Replay

1: RF (Antenna) in
2: RCA (Video, audio left, audio right)
3: S-Video (Seperated chroma and luma/sync info, far superior to
composit) This can be used with RCA audio cables (left/right)

This is for the video

For audio you have RF, RCA and S/Pdif (Either coax of Tosslink-optical)

This is superior as well, though my ears are not that good

In short, you have options, RF is the worst, S-Video with digital audio
is the best, You may mix and match.

One caravat though.. Default settings are RF and RCA (line 1 or line 2)

Line 2 can be re-set to use S-Video and/or Digital audio

The unit has selections in out puts too but generally all are active so
you plug in what you wish to use

1: RF (Chan 3 here I think you can change it)
2: S-Video with your choice of Analog or digital (optical or coax) audio

And there are two Analog video/audio out lines as well if memory serves.

A very versitle machine
Anonymous
October 28, 2004 12:23:55 PM

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Thanks everybody for all your help. I was researching a bit more last
night, and what Dish or Direct want for their HD/DVR combo is just
outrageous. I'm definatley going to go with Replay. I'm not to
worried about it recording the HD channels, currently there are only 4
or 5, not to many. One more question for everybody, which model is
the best to get at the best price? On replays site, I saw they had
the 5504 for around 100.00 after rebate, is that a good one?
Anonymous
October 28, 2004 2:51:56 PM

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On 28 Oct 2004 08:23:55 -0700, redgem@mlode.com (Jeannine) wrote:

>Thanks everybody for all your help. I was researching a bit more last
>night, and what Dish or Direct want for their HD/DVR combo is just
>outrageous. I'm definatley going to go with Replay. I'm not to
>worried about it recording the HD channels, currently there are only 4
>or 5, not to many. One more question for everybody, which model is
>the best to get at the best price? On replays site, I saw they had
>the 5504 for around 100.00 after rebate, is that a good one?

It's good. You can always replace the disk if you want more recording
time.

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http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
Anonymous
October 28, 2004 3:11:14 PM

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:45:52 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Jeannine wrote:
>
>> Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
>> looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
>> features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
>> to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
>> good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
>> in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
>> really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
>> the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
>> anybody been able to do this successfully?
>> Thanks
>
>First, Condgradulations on making the best choice in DVR (Replay is much
>more versitle than Tivo)
>

Yes, it is.

>Second... You have choices in your inputs with the Replay
>
>1: RF (Antenna) in
>2: RCA (Video, audio left, audio right)

RCA is not a signal type, like the others you listed. This jack type
is used for composite video and analog audio, as well as coaxial
optical (NOT found on Replay) and component video (Replay output
only).

>3: S-Video (Seperated chroma and luma/sync info, far superior to
>composit)

It's "far superior" only if you have an unusually high quality
source. Usually it's no netter than composite.

I tried S-video (Replay input) but went back to composite because of
the poor physical reliability (the connectors fall out much more
easily). That really messes up automatic recordings. Actually getting
the recording was more important than a slight improvement in video
quality.

> This can be used with RCA audio cables (left/right)
>
>This is for the video
>
>For audio you have RF, RCA and S/Pdif (Either coax of Tosslink-optical)
>
>This is superior as well, though my ears are not that good
>

Looks like you're confusing inputs and outputs.

S/Pdif (optical only, NO coaxial) is available for OUTPUT only.

>In short, you have options, RF is the worst, S-Video with digital audio
>is the best, You may mix and match.
>
>One caravat though.. Default settings are RF and RCA (line 1 or line 2)
>
>Line 2 can be re-set to use S-Video and/or Digital audio
>
>The unit has selections in out puts too but generally all are active so
>you plug in what you wish to use
>

Except you have to enable the component video output, which you left
out.

>1: RF (Chan 3 here I think you can change it)
>2: S-Video with your choice of Analog or digital (optical or coax) audio
>
>And there are two Analog video/audio out lines as well if memory serves.
>

You can't look? Even in the manual?

>A very versitle machine

Somewhat better arranged:

Replay input options:

1. RF (built-in tuner)
2. composite video (2 inputs available)
3. analog audio (stereo) (2 inputs available)
4. s-video (uses input 2 only)

Total 3 inputs available (includes RF):

1. composite video/analog audio
2. composite video or s-video/analog audio
3. RF (ANT/CATV)

Replay output options:

1. RF (ch 3/4, WORST QUALITY)
2. composite video (2 outputs)
3. analog audio (stereo) (2 outputs)
4. s-video
5. component video (RGB on 4xxx, YPbPr on 5xxx)
6. digital audio (optical)

All outputs available all the time, except #5 which has to be enabled.

#5 and #6 would have the best quality, but will be limited because
there are no comparable INPUTS.

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Anonymous
October 28, 2004 3:32:52 PM

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If your looking for cheap, the best priced one I found so far is on
AMAZON.com for $104.00 with Free shipping
plus you get a $50 rebate if you buy before 12/31/04 (around $54 for a
5504)

"Jeannine" <redgem@mlode.com> wrote in message
news:2cf2eca2.0410280723.762dc023@posting.google.com...
> Thanks everybody for all your help. I was researching a bit more last
> night, and what Dish or Direct want for their HD/DVR combo is just
> outrageous. I'm definatley going to go with Replay. I'm not to
> worried about it recording the HD channels, currently there are only 4
> or 5, not to many. One more question for everybody, which model is
> the best to get at the best price? On replays site, I saw they had
> the 5504 for around 100.00 after rebate, is that a good one?
Anonymous
October 29, 2004 9:17:18 AM

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Jeannine wrote:
> Thanks everybody for all your help. I was researching a bit more last
> night, and what Dish or Direct want for their HD/DVR combo is just
> outrageous. I'm definatley going to go with Replay. I'm not to
> worried about it recording the HD channels, currently there are only 4
> or 5, not to many. One more question for everybody, which model is
> the best to get at the best price? On replays site, I saw they had
> the 5504 for around 100.00 after rebate, is that a good one?

5040 are better, but you won't find them on DNNA's site anymore, so the
5504 is your best value now. You can get a refurb 5504 for $50 after
rebate.
October 29, 2004 4:49:57 PM

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I have a ReplayTV5508 and a dish 811. works fine - not sure about the sound
system. Make sure you upgrade to the latest software version (Build 144) or
the channels won't change correctly. Use the S-video connection, if
possible. I haven't used it to record any of the HD channels but I'm pretty
sure the picture quality won't be as good because ReplayTV is not yet
designed for HD.
Jimbo
"Jeannine" <redgem@mlode.com> wrote in message
news:2cf2eca2.0410271211.4779c2bf@posting.google.com...
> Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
> looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
> features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
> to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
> good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
> in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
> really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
> the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
> anybody been able to do this successfully?
> Thanks
Anonymous
October 29, 2004 5:27:51 PM

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"Jimbo" <imbojay@att.net> wrote in message news:<V%qgd.41235$OD2.37104@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> I have a ReplayTV5508 and a dish 811. works fine - not sure about the sound
> system. Make sure you upgrade to the latest software version (Build 144) or
> the channels won't change correctly. Use the S-video connection, if
> possible. I haven't used it to record any of the HD channels but I'm pretty
> sure the picture quality won't be as good because ReplayTV is not yet
> designed for HD.
> Jimbo
> "Jeannine" <redgem@mlode.com> wrote in message
> news:2cf2eca2.0410271211.4779c2bf@posting.google.com...
> > Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
> > looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
> > features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
> > to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
> > good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
> > in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
> > really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
> > the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
> > anybody been able to do this successfully?
> > Thanks

I currently am looking to do the same thing. whatIR codes did you use
to control your Dish811 receiver??
Anonymous
October 30, 2004 3:17:49 AM

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Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:45:52 GMT, John in Detroit
>>First, Condgradulations on making the best choice in DVR (Replay is much
>>more versitle than Tivo)
>Yes, it is.

That depends largely on context, they both do things the other unit
doesn't.

I like burning DVDs in the unit, without having to mess with my PC at
all - TiVo offers that (on 5 different models), RTV doesn't.

With the 5500 RTV's main advantage is DVArchive. And I wish TiVo
would get around to delivering cooperative scheduling, which they've
mentioned in the past. That is a nice feature on RTV.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
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October 30, 2004 3:17:50 AM

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:17:49 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
(MegaZone) wrote:

>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
>>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:45:52 GMT, John in Detroit
>>>First, Condgradulations on making the best choice in DVR (Replay is much
>>>more versitle than Tivo)
>>Yes, it is.
>
>That depends largely on context, they both do things the other unit
>doesn't.
>
>I like burning DVDs in the unit, without having to mess with my PC at
>all -

I'd change "have to" to "get to" and use a good editing program. PCs
are much more versatile.

> TiVo offers that (on 5 different models), RTV doesn't.
>
>With the 5500 RTV's main advantage is DVArchive. And I wish TiVo
>would get around to delivering cooperative scheduling, which they've
>mentioned in the past. That is a nice feature on RTV.
>
>-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
Anonymous
October 30, 2004 5:32:45 AM

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Joel <joel@noemail.here> shaped the electrons to say:
>I'd change "have to" to "get to" and use a good editing program. PCs
>are much more versatile.

Yes, but it is convenience - I burned 13 copies of Farscape: The
Peacekeeper Wars (26 DVD-Rs) the week it aired. I could just pop a
blank into the machine and start it off - while I used my laptop for
other things, including the drive. And I could watch other programs
while it burned the disc.

I also have a co-worker who is into Columbo, but she can't get Bravo.
So I record it daily and when I get home I toss in a DVD-RW and kick
off the burn while I go about my business. When she's done she gives
them back and I recycle them. If I had to wait for a transfer to my
PC and mess with the burning there it wouldn't be worth doing.

If I want to do that, I will have TiVoToGo soon enough. Right now I
can also dump things to DVD-RW and then edit the contents on a PC if I
need to.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
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Anonymous
October 30, 2004 5:32:46 AM

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:32:45 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
(MegaZone) wrote:

>Joel <joel@noemail.here> shaped the electrons to say:
>>I'd change "have to" to "get to" and use a good editing program. PCs
>>are much more versatile.
>
>Yes, but it is convenience - I burned 13 copies of Farscape: The
>Peacekeeper Wars (26 DVD-Rs) the week it aired.

There is no more extra work for multiple copies from a PC than from
that machine. You just5 select the number of copies.

> I could just pop a
>blank into the machine and start it off - while I used my laptop for
>other things, including the drive.

The video editing and DVD authoring can be very CPU-intensive, but you
can still do other things.

Also, consider the big difference between "easier" and "better". I
tend to prefer "better".

> And I could watch other programs
>while it burned the disc.
>

Of course, you could do this either way.

>I also have a co-worker who is into Columbo, but she can't get Bravo.
>So I record it daily and when I get home I toss in a DVD-RW and kick
>off the burn while I go about my business. When she's done she gives
>them back and I recycle them. If I had to wait for a transfer to my
>PC and mess with the burning there it wouldn't be worth doing.
>
>If I want to do that, I will have TiVoToGo soon enough. Right now I
>can also dump things to DVD-RW and then edit the contents on a PC if I
>need to.
>
>-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762

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Anonymous
October 30, 2004 10:41:17 AM

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Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
>Also, consider the big difference between "easier" and "better". I
>tend to prefer "better".

People asked me for copies because they missed the show, or it wasn't
aired where they are - I was nice enough to use my blanks, cases, and
pay the postage to get them the discs. I didn't feel like doing any
editing, I have better things to do.

Frankly I never bother editing shows I archive, even for myself - I
never have. It is easy enough to skip the ads on playback, and it
just doesn't matter enough for me to bother editing them all out. And
media is so cheap that I don't really care if I use another disc.

My PC is more that up to it - Athlon64 with 512MB (I'll probably bump
it to 1GB at some point), and it even came with video editing software
(it is an HP laptop), it just isn't something I care enough about to
bother with. On the rare occaision where I might, I can do it - today
I use DVD-RW to ferry the data, shortly I'll use my LAN and TiVoToGo.

For me moving content to a PC is just no big deal, I can't be arsed.
Most of the stuff I burn is for someone else so I just toss in a
blank, hit a few buttons, and it is done in minutes. No fuss, no
waiting for a transfer, no editing. And the burning is easier than
with PC software. If you really like editing things and optimizing
the burn you'd want to do it on a PC.

Now, if it were a transparent, bidirectional system I might setup a TB
media server just because.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
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Anonymous
October 30, 2004 3:12:22 PM

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 06:41:17 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
(MegaZone) wrote:

>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> shaped the electrons to say:
>>Also, consider the big difference between "easier" and "better". I
>>tend to prefer "better".
>
>People asked me for copies because they missed the show, or it wasn't
>aired where they are - I was nice enough to use my blanks, cases, and
>pay the postage to get them the discs.

Of course, I would need about half that many of each.

> I didn't feel like doing any
>editing, I have better things to do.
>

OK. People are different.

>Frankly I never bother editing shows I archive, even for myself - I
>never have.

I didn't with a VCR, since it was too stressfun watching those
commercials carefully and hoping to press pause (to resume recording)
at exactly the right moment.

> It is easy enough to skip the ads on playback,

Yes. I suppose the difference is just that doing it on recording means
doing it once (and more efficient use of media, effeciency makjes
sense).

> and it
>just doesn't matter enough for me to bother editing them all out. And
>media is so cheap that I don't really care if I use another disc.
>

As someone once said, no matter how little it's still money.

>My PC is more that up to it - Athlon64 with 512MB (I'll probably bump
>it to 1GB at some point), and it even came with video editing software

Sounds good. I'd consider speed (FSB speed is important, maybe more
than CPU speed).

>(it is an HP laptop), it just isn't something I care enough about to
>bother with.

Hopefully, there are other things (maybe not video-related) you care
about.

> On the rare occaision where I might, I can do it - today
>I use DVD-RW to ferry the data, shortly I'll use my LAN and TiVoToGo.
>

A feature (TiVoToGo) that attempts to duplicate something the Replays
can do anyway. That makes TiVo something like AOL. These "new"
features that incompletely duplicate things others have already had.

BTW, I recently heard of a new TiVo unfeature, the software will
delete recordings of PPV events.

>For me moving content to a PC is just no big deal,

Have you done it? It could be like remote controls used to be.
Seemingly unimportant to people who've never used one.

>I can't be arsed.

??

>Most of the stuff I burn is for someone else so I just toss in a
>blank, hit a few buttons, and it is done in minutes.

I'd still like to do a good job.

> No fuss, no
>waiting for a transfer, no editing.

I do edit the video to remove commercials (and PBS does have
commercials now, although fewer and I haven't seen any offensive ones
yet other than maybe those "pledge breaks").

BTW, an hour show (on commercial TV) is about 45 minutes long. A DVD-R
can hold about 7 "hours" of these.

> And the burning is easier than
>with PC software. If you really like editing things and optimizing
>the burn you'd want to do it on a PC.
>

You have more control over the result. As I said, people are
different.

>Now, if it were a transparent, bidirectional system I might setup a TB
>media server just because.
>

1 Terabyte would hold about 1177 hours of video from the Replay.

>-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762

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Anonymous
October 31, 2004 4:15:57 AM

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MegaZone wrote:


> I also have a co-worker who is into Columbo, but she can't get Bravo.
> So I record it daily and when I get home I toss in a DVD-RW and kick
> off the burn while I go about my business. When she's done she gives
> them back and I recycle them. If I had to wait for a transfer to my
> PC and mess with the burning there it wouldn't be worth doing.

Humm, wait for transfer to the PC... I don't know.... Shows routinely
transfer here at odd times like 3am when I'm sound asleep

One thing folks forget is DVArchive, in fact many programs, can do their
things while you sleep...... I have a program running (Well had, it's
finished now, for this week) pre-scheduled on one of my other computers
this very evening,,, What's more I was using the computer when the
program popped up, did not affect anything I was doing
Anonymous
October 31, 2004 4:15:58 AM

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:15:57 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>MegaZone wrote:
>
>
>> I also have a co-worker who is into Columbo, but she can't get Bravo.
>> So I record it daily and when I get home I toss in a DVD-RW and kick
>> off the burn while I go about my business. When she's done she gives
>> them back and I recycle them. If I had to wait for a transfer to my
>> PC and mess with the burning there it wouldn't be worth doing.
>
>Humm, wait for transfer to the PC... I don't know.... Shows routinely
>transfer here at odd times like 3am when I'm sound asleep
>
>One thing folks forget is DVArchive, in fact many programs, can do their
>things while you sleep...... I have a program running (Well had, it's
>finished now, for this week) pre-scheduled on one of my other computers
>this very evening,,, What's more I was using the computer when the
>program popped up, did not affect anything I was doing

I have DVArchive set up to automatically transfer all shows from all
Replays "export" category. where the Replay is programmed to store the
shows I want to put on DVD. I keep a window to that directory open all
the time on my computer. Whenever I go to use the computer, I can find
several shows there ready to work on. It was all automatic up to
there.

--
56 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
November 3, 2004 4:21:36 PM

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I used Code 775, without any modifications, from software build 144. works
fine on the 811.

Jimbo

"rweav" <rweavis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4cd030e.0410291227.1cb1b615@posting.google.com...
> "Jimbo" <imbojay@att.net> wrote in message
news:<V%qgd.41235$OD2.37104@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> > I have a ReplayTV5508 and a dish 811. works fine - not sure about the
sound
> > system. Make sure you upgrade to the latest software version (Build
144) or
> > the channels won't change correctly. Use the S-video connection, if
> > possible. I haven't used it to record any of the HD channels but I'm
pretty
> > sure the picture quality won't be as good because ReplayTV is not yet
> > designed for HD.
> > Jimbo
> > "Jeannine" <redgem@mlode.com> wrote in message
> > news:2cf2eca2.0410271211.4779c2bf@posting.google.com...
> > > Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
> > > looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
> > > features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
> > > to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
> > > good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
> > > in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
> > > really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
> > > the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
> > > anybody been able to do this successfully?
> > > Thanks
>
> I currently am looking to do the same thing. whatIR codes did you use
> to control your Dish811 receiver??
Anonymous
January 19, 2005 6:41:22 PM

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:45:52 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Jeannine wrote:
>
>> Currently at home we have Dish Networks 811 HD receiver. We've been
>> looking at buying a DVR, and I came across replay. I liked the replay
>> features a lot better than Tivos. My question is this, will I be able
>> to hook my satellite reciver up through the replay unit, and still get
>> good quality pictures on my tv? I really don't want to use the RCA
>> in/out because they seem to degrade the picture. And we also have a
>> really nice sound system at home, so I would like to be able to hook
>> the replay up to my hd receiver without degrading the quality. Has
>> anybody been able to do this successfully?
>> Thanks
>
>First, Condgradulations on making the best choice in DVR (Replay is much
>more versitle than Tivo)
>

Yes, it is.

>Second... You have choices in your inputs with the Replay
>
>1: RF (Antenna) in
>2: RCA (Video, audio left, audio right)
>3: S-Video (Seperated chroma and luma/sync info, far superior to
>composit) This can be
(is)
> used with RCA audio cables (left/right)
>

POTENTIALLY far superior. In most cases will give you very little
improvement over composite, considering that this is often derived
from composite (or even RF). The superiority of S-video is often like
an 8-inch pipe fed from a half-inch hose.

>This is for the video
>
>For audio you have RF, RCA and S/Pdif (Either coax of Tosslink-optical)
>

There is no S/Pdif input (one would be useful, if the Replay could
actually record digital audio). That connector is only for output.

>This is superior as well, though my ears are not that good
>
>In short, you have options, RF is the worst, S-Video with digital audio
>is the best, You may mix and match.
>
>One caravat though.. Default settings are RF and RCA (line 1 or line 2)
>
>Line 2 can be re-set to use S-Video and/or Digital audio
>
>The unit has selections in out puts too but generally all are active so
>you plug in what you wish to use
>

The 5xxx units have component video (of limited use, since there's no
component video input), which has to be enabled. This is not to be
confused with composite video, which is always working.

>1: RF (Chan 3 here I think you can change it)

3 or 4. I never use the RF output (again, worst quality), but do
explore the menu system. If you really want RF (such as for
distribution to multiple TVs) use a good external modulator.

>2: S-Video with your choice of Analog or digital (optical or coax) audio
>

There is no coax digital jack on the Replay (only optical). I have a
DVD player that has one. The Replay does not.

>And there are two Analog video/audio out lines as well if memory serves.
>

Really 3. 2 composite & 1 S-video.

>A very versitle machine

Yes.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
January 20, 2005 2:33:49 PM

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Mark Lloyd wrote:

> There is no coax digital jack on the Replay (only optical). I have a
> DVD player that has one. The Replay does not.

If you want coax digital I can get it for you for under $75.00, Or
rather I can tell you where to get it. (See link below)

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-...

Note, if you reverse the OPTICAL-COAX to COAX-OPTICAL you get the other
way Fifty bucks or less, the other 25 was shipping and an optical
cable (Since all my audio stuff has S/Pdif Optical in, And one device I
have has only coax out, I have the Coax-Optical version, works perfectly)

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/MM-...

This one has SCMS management... Useful in my situtation, However I have
another device to kill SCMS, which is the one with coax out
Anonymous
January 20, 2005 2:33:50 PM

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:49 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>> There is no coax digital jack on the Replay (only optical). I have a
>> DVD player that has one. The Replay does not.
>
>If you want coax digital I can get it for you for under $75.00, Or
>rather I can tell you where to get it. (See link below)
>
>http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-...
>

I'm not using optical at this time, but will keep this information for
possible later use.

>Note, if you reverse the OPTICAL-COAX to COAX-OPTICAL you get the other
>way

That page seems to say the device works only one way. Would you be
referring to another device?

> Fifty bucks or less, the other 25 was shipping and an optical
>cable (Since all my audio stuff has S/Pdif Optical in, And one device I
>have has only coax out, I have the Coax-Optical version, works perfectly)
>
>http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/MM-...
>
>This one has SCMS management... Useful in my situtation, However I have
>another device to kill SCMS, which is the one with coax out

SCMS, like other such "protection" systems are undesirable. Like I
said before, I do support copyright restrictions. However, what's
wrong is hardware/software trying to enforce them without the
appropriate intelligence.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
Anonymous
January 21, 2005 1:30:55 AM

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Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:49 GMT, John in Detroit
> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There is no coax digital jack on the Replay (only optical). I have a
>>>DVD player that has one. The Replay does not.
>>
>>If you want coax digital I can get it for you for under $75.00, Or
>>rather I can tell you where to get it. (See link below)
>>
>>http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-...
>>
>
>
> I'm not using optical at this time, but will keep this information for
> possible later use.
>
>
>>Note, if you reverse the OPTICAL-COAX to COAX-OPTICAL you get the other
>>way
>
>
> That page seems to say the device works only one way. Would you be
> referring to another device?

Yes, there are two devices, the URL's are nearly identical, Just reverse
the "COAX" and "OPTICAL" elements of the URL to get the other unit.

Chris has a lot of other simular devices some of which are 2 way with
multiple inputs and outputs by the way... I have the coax->optical
converter here

>
>
>> Fifty bucks or less, the other 25 was shipping and an optical
>>cable (Since all my audio stuff has S/Pdif Optical in, And one device I
>>have has only coax out, I have the Coax-Optical version, works perfectly)
>>
>>http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/MM-...
>>
>>This one has SCMS management... Useful in my situtation, However I have
>>another device to kill SCMS, which is the one with coax out
>
>
> SCMS, like other such "protection" systems are undesirable. Like I
> said before, I do support copyright restrictions. However, what's
> wrong is hardware/software trying to enforce them without the
> appropriate intelligence.
>
Anonymous
January 21, 2005 1:30:56 AM

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:30:55 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:49 GMT, John in Detroit
>> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>There is no coax digital jack on the Replay (only optical). I have a
>>>>DVD player that has one. The Replay does not.
>>>
>>>If you want coax digital I can get it for you for under $75.00, Or
>>>rather I can tell you where to get it. (See link below)
>>>
>>>http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-...
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not using optical at this time, but will keep this information for
>> possible later use.
>>
>>
>>>Note, if you reverse the OPTICAL-COAX to COAX-OPTICAL you get the other
>>>way
>>
>>
>> That page seems to say the device works only one way. Would you be
>> referring to another device?
>
>Yes, there are two devices, the URL's are nearly identical, Just reverse
>the "COAX" and "OPTICAL" elements of the URL to get the other unit.
>

Reversing the words in the URL does work. The way you said it just
made it look like you reversed the connections on the device itself.

>Chris has a lot of other simular devices some of which are 2 way with
>multiple inputs and outputs by the way... I have the coax->optical
>converter here
>

I have seen a composite video -- S-video adapter that was itself
reversible.

>>
>>
>>> Fifty bucks or less, the other 25 was shipping and an optical
>>>cable (Since all my audio stuff has S/Pdif Optical in, And one device I
>>>have has only coax out, I have the Coax-Optical version, works perfectly)
>>>
>>>http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/MM-...
>>>
>>>This one has SCMS management... Useful in my situtation, However I have
>>>another device to kill SCMS, which is the one with coax out
>>
>>
>> SCMS, like other such "protection" systems are undesirable. Like I
>> said before, I do support copyright restrictions. However, what's
>> wrong is hardware/software trying to enforce them without the
>> appropriate intelligence.
>>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh
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