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January 7, 2010 10:58:03 PM

looking at the 720 BE and the 925 for a gaming/multimedia rig mostly gaming. will buy when nvidia releases GTX 300 series cards in hopes of 5850 prices falling. will be for a ddr3 system. haven't been able to find benchmarks for 925. current games include Bioshock, Warhammer DoW 2, looki at AvP when it comes out, Bioshock 2 as well, maybe crysis. price difference is $40.
i do not edit video, most i do w/ music is move it it onto computers then onto mp3 player. will not be using auto cad pro E or Softworks on this computer.
any links to 925 benchmarks would be greatly appreciated

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January 8, 2010 3:26:10 PM

What's your budget?

Where do you shop for parts?
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January 9, 2010 9:24:39 PM

budget for board, memory, processor,cooler, and video card is 550, maybe 600 to 650, but i'm really aiming for 550 or under. i'm looking at newegg compusa/tigerdirect, and frys electronics. not sure if the fourth core is worth the extra 40 for most games and apps as the 720 has an unlocked multiplier for a high core clock and a lot of games don't fully utilize multiple threads.
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January 10, 2010 2:06:59 PM

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AVP System Requirements

Pentium 3 or Athlon 450 MHz or higher
Windows 95/98/2000/Me/XP
128MB RAM or higher
1.3 GB hard disk space
4X CD-ROM drive or greater
16 Bit DirectX 8 compatible sound card
16MB DirectX 8 compatible D3D video card


http://www.neoseeker.com/Games/Products/PC/AvPgold/

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Bioshock Recommended System Requirements:

# CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo processor
# System RAM: 2GB
# Video card:
DX9: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT or better)
DX10: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 or better
# Sound Card: Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ series (Optimized for use with Creative Labs EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0 or EAX ADVANCED HD 5.0 compatible sound cards)


http://www.2kgames.com/bioshock/support/general_5.htm

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Bioshock 2 Recommended Requirements

CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo processor / AMD Athlon X2
System RAM - 3GB/4GB
Video card - DX9 - Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT or better) / DX10 - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 or better
Sound Card - Sound Blaster X-Fi series (Optimized for use with Creative Labs EAX ADVANCED HD 4.0 or EAX ADVANCED HD 5.0 compatible sound cards)


http://www.bioshock2forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18&...

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Crysis Recommended System Requirements

OS - Windows XP / Vista
Processor - Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
Memory - 2.0 GB RAM
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar


http://www.crysisdemo.com/crysis-system-requirements.ht...

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W40KDOW2 Recommended

Windows XP SP2 or Windows Vista SP1
AMD Athlon 64×2 4400+ or any Intel Core 2 Duo
2 GB RAM (XP and Vista)
A 256MB Video Card (Shader Model 3) – Nvidia GeForce 7800 GT / ATI X1900, or equivalent
5.5 GB of Hard Drive space


http://www.digitalbattle.com/2009/01/06/warhammer-40000...

All you gotta do is meet or exceed the recommended system requirements of the games you're gonna play.

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Sure the PSU is overkill, but it's a combo deal and you wouldn't have to upgrade it again even if you get the HD 5850(500W) or even HD 5970 (650W). I don't know which specific chipset you want for overclocking the cpu. If you want a better board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 10, 2010 9:41:12 PM

have psu, 750Watt w/ 45 Amp on 12v. hoping for 5850 so i can run a phys x card w/ patch from ngohq with a strong ati card.
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January 10, 2010 11:05:46 PM

i found a phenom 2 x3 720 BE for 110 with free shipping is it worth the extra 40 for the 925 at ~150 ish with free shipping?
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January 11, 2010 12:51:05 PM

Drop the PSU & GPU. Throw in a 5850.

$140 shipped.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Depends, if your usage requires a quad, yep, pay the extra $40.
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January 17, 2010 7:46:11 AM

how well does the 720 BE perform in quad core optimized games?
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January 19, 2010 4:23:46 AM

when they program games do they program so that games scale with the number of available cores or do they optimize the programing for a certain number of cores?
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January 19, 2010 1:07:02 PM

Gen-speak, the OS will optimize available cores. If the software is optimized for quads, it'll run better than those that's not. Only a handful of games are. And the majority of the software is video/audio encoding/decoding & 3D rendering.
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January 19, 2010 5:55:08 PM

These are both the same price on Newegg:

Phenom II X3 2.8GHz 720 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Phenom II X4 3.2GHz 955 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Given that, the 720BE doesn't seem to be a good value. It's not quite apples to apples because the X4 is 125W TDP vs. the 95W TDP of the X3 but is that a concern? If it is, then I think the X4 925 or 945 is still a better value. I guess it depends on your OC requirements and your power requirements.

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January 20, 2010 2:36:17 AM

i found an oem part 110 with free shipping, since i ordered a better cooler i have no need for stock cooler that comes with the $165 model
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January 20, 2010 9:43:59 PM

Best answer selected by rockinthepe.
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January 20, 2010 9:46:03 PM

ordered parts today. phenom II x4 925 was the winner, mobo will be a MSI 770-G45
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