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August 7, 2012 11:23:01 PM

Hello I am getting the Maximus V Formula motherboard and I am looking for information on how to go around doing so. Like I want to know how to use the water cooling system built in and the parts I need.

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August 7, 2012 11:24:55 PM

Also Links would be helpful!
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a c 180 V Motherboard
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August 8, 2012 12:10:58 AM

First of all you can look at the stickeys at the top of this forum page as they have a lot of info in there if your up to reading them.
Next you have to decide what parts you want to water cool and most people will cool thier cpu and then some will go further and include the video cards. In your case the MB comes with a cooling solution for the chipsets that is water cooling and the thing is you can choose to use that feature or not , it's up to you.
If you want to set up a water cooling loop you will need to figure out what you can spend because water cooling is not cheap and it can get very expensive with the more parts you add to be cooled. There are some kits that you can look at and see what you think for starters.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
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August 8, 2012 12:17:38 AM

inzone said:
First of all you can look at the stickeys at the top of this forum page as they have a lot of info in there if your up to reading them.
Next you have to decide what parts you want to water cool and most people will cool thier cpu and then some will go further and include the video cards. In your case the MB comes with a cooling solution for the chipsets that is water cooling and the thing is you can choose to use that feature or not , it's up to you.
If you want to set up a water cooling loop you will need to figure out what you can spend because water cooling is not cheap and it can get very expensive with the more parts you add to be cooled. There are some kits that you can look at and see what you think for starters.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Thanks for the answer I think cpu cooling is enough for me. Also I have a couple questions

1. Can I use car coolant/antifreeze to put into the loop
2. If I can't what brands of coolant can i use specifically for computer cooling
3. Can i put food coloring in the coolant/antifreeze to change the color or will I damage anything?
4. I heard bacteria can grow and mess up everything how would I get that out like a way to kill them.
thanks for the response!
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a c 325 K Overclocking
August 8, 2012 12:21:13 AM

1. Yes, but only very thinly mixed, but why? There's no real need.
2. Distilled water, the most trusted coolant for watercooling
3. I guess, but no need as anything you add to distilled water decreases the cooling efficiency of it. Just get colored tubing, but dyes would be a safe alternative. No 'coolants'.
4. Yes. Use biocide.

Please read the sticky in the forum...it's linked in my signature and contains a lot of info, including answers to these questions you've asked.
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August 8, 2012 12:25:36 AM

about the food coloring, it actually breaks down over time in a stagnant glass. Even after being stirred it leaves residues that don't dilute back into a solution. So these chunks of broken coloring will gunk up your block down the road and make you puke...well most of them made people puke.
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August 8, 2012 12:25:42 AM

rubix_1011 said:
1. Yes, but only very thinly mixed, but why? There's no real need.
2. Distilled water, the most trusted coolant for watercooling
3. I guess, but no need as anything you add to distilled water decreases the cooling efficiency of it. Just get colored tubing, but dyes would be a safe alternative. No 'coolants'.
4. Yes. Use biocide.

Please read the sticky in the forum...it's linked in my signature and contains a lot of info, including answers to these questions you've asked.

So just distilled water with a biocide in it and dyes will work fine for coloring the distilled water without harming everything right? Sorry for the newb questions but it's my first time building a comp and water cooling.
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a c 325 K Overclocking
August 8, 2012 12:28:17 AM

I'd suggest against dyes, but I can't control what you decide to do and there are a lot of options out there...some are decent, some are bad for your components.

Again, I'd strongly suggest reading through the sticky (several times, in fact) as this will help you gain some understanding of what you should consider and how to base your next sets of questions on this new understanding.
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August 8, 2012 12:45:42 AM

I'll take a look at the sticky and I'll report if I have any more questions. This forum is so helpful even though I have only been here for a week or less thank you all
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a c 180 V Motherboard
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August 8, 2012 1:13:56 AM

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

This page contains a selection of dyes that can be used to change the color of the water. I would use a clear tubing so that if you decide to change color then all you have to do is change out the liquid and not change all the tubing.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

In this page you have the biocide that you can use to treat the water so no bacteria will grow and be very careful this stuff is poison. The ultra pure water is what can be used and it is clear so a dye can make it any color that you want. Ditilled water is also a good choice and can be found in any supermarket just look in the bottled water isle.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
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a c 325 K Overclocking
August 8, 2012 1:17:13 AM

I'd avoid Feser One...it's been one of the primary offenders when it comes to particulate matter breaking down from the suspended components in the coolant under high load scenarios in a loop and embedding within blocks and radiators.
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August 8, 2012 1:18:49 AM

rubix_1011 said:
I'd suggest against dyes, but I can't control what you decide to do and there are a lot of options out there...some are decent, some are bad for your components.

Again, I'd strongly suggest reading through the sticky (several times, in fact) as this will help you gain some understanding of what you should consider and how to base your next sets of questions on this new understanding.

Alright well I have 2 more questions so um I have been reading through the sticky just skimming through and then I saw the part about maintenance and I was wondering if it's in a loop process how would I be able to drain it with out spilling it? And also I just saw this dye called mahems and have you had any experience with it? Thanks again and sorry for newb questions
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a c 325 K Overclocking
August 8, 2012 1:22:56 AM

You can drain a loop many different ways, it mainly depends on your final loop design. The easiest way for beginners to to incorporate a T-line at the lowest point in the loop, but this can also vary depending on your specific setup.

Mayhems -many people use it, some claim it's great, some claim is bogus and no better than other colorants.

Simple solution, just avoid dyes and coolants- you really don't want or need them. Just use distilled water; you'll thank us later.
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August 8, 2012 1:23:51 AM

inzone said:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

This page contains a selection of dyes that can be used to change the color of the water. I would use a clear tubing so that if you decide to change color then all you have to do is change out the liquid and not change all the tubing.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

In this page you have the biocide that you can use to treat the water so no bacteria will grow and be very careful this stuff is poison. The ultra pure water is what can be used and it is clear so a dye can make it any color that you want. Ditilled water is also a good choice and can be found in any supermarket just look in the bottled water isle.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...
So for the fitting which brand do you recommend?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

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August 8, 2012 1:29:37 AM

rubix_1011 said:
You can drain a loop many different ways, it mainly depends on your final loop design. The easiest way for beginners to to incorporate a T-line at the lowest point in the loop, but this can also vary depending on your specific setup.

Mayhems -many people use it, some claim it's great, some claim is bogus and no better than other colorants.

Simple solution, just avoid dyes and coolants- you really don't want or need them. Just use distilled water; you'll thank us later.

Oh I'll just use your suggestion and I'll stay away from colorants and just stay with colored tubing. Also I'll check out the thing you said about the t line thanks
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August 8, 2012 1:31:58 AM

inzone said:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

This page contains a selection of dyes that can be used to change the color of the water. I would use a clear tubing so that if you decide to change color then all you have to do is change out the liquid and not change all the tubing.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

In this page you have the biocide that you can use to treat the water so no bacteria will grow and be very careful this stuff is poison. The ultra pure water is what can be used and it is clear so a dye can make it any color that you want. Ditilled water is also a good choice and can be found in any supermarket just look in the bottled water isle.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

so about the fitting what brand do you recommend
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a c 180 V Motherboard
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August 8, 2012 1:47:00 AM

As you can see by the previous post I had linked all Bitspower fittings , they are in my opinion the better fittings but they are also more expensive and you can find any other fittings out there and for the most part they are all pretty good. I like Bitspower because they have the largest selection and if you want to stay with one brand then the one with most variety would be a better choice.
It can take some time when you first start out to get used to all the fittings and what you can do with them. With the variety that's out there now you can make pretty much any type of connection that you can think of.
These are some pictures of the inside of my computer and as you can see the different fittings used to make all the different connections.






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August 8, 2012 2:04:32 AM

inzone said:
As you can see by the previous post I had linked all Bitspower fittings , they are in my opinion the better fittings but they are also more expensive and you can find any other fittings out there and for the most part they are all pretty good. I like Bitspower because they have the largest selection and if you want to stay with one brand then the one with most variety would be a better choice.
It can take some time when you first start out to get used to all the fittings and what you can do with them. With the variety that's out there now you can make pretty much any type of connection that you can think of.
These are some pictures of the inside of my computer and as you can see the different fittings used to make all the different connections.

]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9918/001psc.th.jpg

]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5682/003ou.th.jpg



]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/426/004rdf.th.jpg

That's a sick computer and I just looked at the water in your loop and how did you get your water red?
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August 8, 2012 2:25:32 AM

inzone said:
Red dye.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

I use Tygon clear tubing and just add a bit of dye to the water , That way if I want to change color all I have to do is change the water and get the color dye I want.

I also have another question how would you drain it I am having a problem understanding t-line
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a c 180 V Motherboard
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August 8, 2012 2:58:20 AM

I have a drain port set up in the back where I can saftly drain the system , in the post above I had listed several fittings that would be needed for a drain port.
The idea is to have a place in the loop that is convienent to place a dran port and all it is , is a couple of fittings that would allow you to drain the water from the loop. The key issue is to have another place wherre there is a fill port so that when draining you have to let air in so there has to be a place where the loop can have an opening to let the air in and it's usuall the fill port.
The fitting with the handle on it is the place where the water would come out and you connect that to the multi-f block that has a lot of threaded openings for putting fittings. So you would have a in fitting and an out fitting on each end and the in the middle you would connect the mini valve to it with therotery fitting , usinfg the rotary fitting allows you to spin the valve fitting to the position that you want. When you have this connected you basicly have a "T" setup in the loop. The resivoir on the top is where you put the fill port and you have a stop fitting on it that you remove to let air in and make sure it's the highest point in the loop so water wont come out since water sees its own level.
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August 8, 2012 3:07:36 AM

inzone said:
I have a drain port set up in the back where I can saftly drain the system , in the post above I had listed several fittings that would be needed for a drain port.
The idea is to have a place in the loop that is convienent to place a dran port and all it is , is a couple of fittings that would allow you to drain the water from the loop. The key issue is to have another place wherre there is a fill port so that when draining you have to let air in so there has to be a place where the loop can have an opening to let the air in and it's usuall the fill port.
The fitting with the handle on it is the place where the water would come out and you connect that to the multi-f block that has a lot of threaded openings for putting fittings. So you would have a in fitting and an out fitting on each end and the in the middle you would connect the mini valve to it with therotery fitting , usinfg the rotary fitting allows you to spin the valve fitting to the position that you want. When you have this connected you basicly have a "T" setup in the loop. The resivoir on the top is where you put the fill port and you have a stop fitting on it that you remove to let air in and make sure it's the highest point in the loop so water wont come out since water sees its own level.


Is there a way you can possibly simplify this at all? this kind of confused me.
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August 8, 2012 3:15:20 AM

Maybe I can take some pictures tomorrow that show the drain I have setup , but the drain is really a bacic setup and it loks like a "T" and if you look at the multi-f block it looks like a short bar with holes and you have a fitting at each end and the drain valve fitting in the middle hole so if you put it down on the desk it looks like a T shape.
Sorry to be confusing but it is hard to explain when pictures would be better but once you see it you'll understand and not be confused. This is all new and believe me when I say that once you start with it and get it you'll be hooked and you will really like it.
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August 8, 2012 3:23:27 AM

inzone said:
Maybe I can take some pictures tomorrow that show the drain I have setup , but the drain is really a bacic setup and it loks like a "T" and if you look at the multi-f block it looks like a short bar with holes and you have a fitting at each end and the drain valve fitting in the middle hole so if you put it down on the desk it looks like a T shape.
Sorry to be confusing but it is hard to explain when pictures would be better but once you see it you'll understand and not be confused. This is all new and believe me when I say that once you start with it and get it you'll be hooked and you will really like it.

Thanks for understanding you can Either email me the pics or you can just post links here Either way I have to go now see ya thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
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August 8, 2012 3:31:37 AM

inzone said:
Maybe I can take some pictures tomorrow that show the drain I have setup , but the drain is really a bacic setup and it loks like a "T" and if you look at the multi-f block it looks like a short bar with holes and you have a fitting at each end and the drain valve fitting in the middle hole so if you put it down on the desk it looks like a T shape.
Sorry to be confusing but it is hard to explain when pictures would be better but once you see it you'll understand and not be confused. This is all new and believe me when I say that once you start with it and get it you'll be hooked and you will really like it.

[email removed- do not post personal info in the forums, use PM]
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August 8, 2012 8:22:54 AM

that t-line can be like this


that thing Rubix (+ I) was trying to say about dyes and coolants

^part of it was because the block was alu+cu. But the color issue is prevailant regardless of dye/coolant brands. Try scrubbing your block clean with a toothbrush to no avail...:/

mayhems claim that their coolants aren't gunkers but I'm yet following a thread - thanks to Rubix for sharing - on the progress that mayhems has corrosion and plasticizer inhibitors in their coolants/dye concentrates. So far its a 50/50 scenario.

Mayhem still suggests that you drain your loop of the coolants, flush the entire loop with distilled and then refill after every 6 months and don't leave the system running 24/7, they have an issue with stagnation areas and being on the move constantly.

bottom line
want color in your loop?
get colored tubing and distilled.
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August 8, 2012 1:27:46 PM

Lutfij said:
that t-line can be like this
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8105/p3291009.jpg

that thing Rubix (+ I) was trying to say about dyes and coolants
http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/7/7a/7aebbbf0_vbattach203984.png
^part of it was because the block was alu+cu. But the color issue is prevailant regardless of dye/coolant brands. Try scrubbing your block clean with a toothbrush to no avail...:/

mayhems claim that their coolants aren't gunkers but I'm yet following a thread - thanks to Rubix for sharing - on the progress that mayhems has corrosion and plasticizer inhibitors in their coolants/dye concentrates. So far its a 50/50 scenario.

Mayhem still suggests that you drain your loop of the coolants, flush the entire loop with distilled and then refill after every 6 months and don't leave the system running 24/7, they have an issue with stagnation areas and being on Mthe move constantly.

bottom line
want color in your loop?
get colored tubing and distilled.

Alright about the picture it helped it's Like a tap right like you turn that little knob and water flows out? Also that clear block next to the tap looking thing is your reservoir correct? So for you to drain your system you have to turn it on and then turn the knob and let the water out?
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a c 325 K Overclocking
August 8, 2012 2:09:05 PM

You don't have to use a tap or valve like that- it's just one example. This is why I suggested reading through the sticky and the links as you'll see several examples for ideas.
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a c 180 V Motherboard
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August 8, 2012 3:09:19 PM

Pckid, in the picture that Lutfij provided doesn't the drain port resemble a T ?
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a c 325 K Overclocking
August 8, 2012 3:39:46 PM

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August 8, 2012 6:12:37 PM

inzone said:
Pckid, in the picture that Lutfij provided doesn't the drain port resemble a T ?

Ohhhh thanks guys I get it now lol im a noob
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a c 180 V Motherboard
a c 138 K Overclocking
August 9, 2012 12:05:31 AM

We all have to learn sometime and it's hard when you start because you don't know anything except what you read or hear and the best teacher is to do it yourself , but sometimes you do need some help.
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