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1st build in a looong time

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January 9, 2010 6:49:30 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week

BUDGET RANGE: 1500$ MAX, including some rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, watching movies (from HD), Photoshop/Illustrator, Itunes...

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor (LG 204WT, 1680x1050 max res.), sound card (SB Audigy 2 ZS), speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.ca

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Canada, eh! (so remember this is in Can. currency) ;) 

PARTS PREFERENCES: best bang for the buck

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, but in the future (I'm still a noob and need to read up on this)

CROSSFIRE: Yes, but in the future

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
One thing i might ad is that i change rigs every 4-5 years, so an important point is longevity,
and of course price, plus i want my build to still be 'in it' in 5 years


since one of my criteria is longevity I hesitate between a i5 or i7 build, but one thing I have
in mind is getting a 5870 vid. card and adding another in CrossFire in the future (either on a
P55 or X58 MoBo), now from what i can see the price of a i7 will be about 3-400$ more, depending
on parts selected and the best bang for my $$ would be a i5 build that i could OC, ad another 5870
and some RAM if needed

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so here is my i5 build:

CD/DVD burner: Samsung
Case: CoolerMaster Storm Scout
HD: WD Black 640gig
Vid. Card Asus 5870
PSU: Antec 750w for future CrossFire
RAM: G.Skill 4gb (2x2) lots of good reviews about G.Skill, but i can try another brand
MoBo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro Asus and Gigabyte are the only 2 brand i would buy, ASRock, Biostar, DFI and other more 'recent' are brands i know nothing about
Cpu: Intel i5-750

Total: 1305$ (Canadian) before taxes, with rebates and promos



as for a i7 build i would switch with these parts:

RAM: no idea what i would take for 6gb Triple Channel memory
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R cheapest Gigabyte X58 MoBo, i wont spend 300$ on a MoBo unless its essential and that this board is not worth it
Cpu: Intel i7-920

total: ad ~50$ for the RAM
10$ for the Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R 1366/X58 MoBo
90$ for the Intel i7-920 processor

1455$ or more depending on parts, rebates and promos

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now is this 150$ (or more) debatable or should i go for it, or will the i5 build suffice and still be nice in 5 years by simply adding
some RAM and another 5870 (even though the P55 MoBo is only x8 x8 compared to x16 x16 for the X58) and OC it a bit?!?

let me know what you guys think!

EDIT: ...forgot to ad, I'll be using Windows 7, 64bit version, if that helps in anything

tanx!

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January 9, 2010 7:04:16 PM

You'll never know the difference between x8/x8 and x16/x16 with 2 5870's. i5 750 oc's just as well if not better than i7 920, and yes that is saying something.

The only advantage the x58 has in regards to 'futureproof' is the fact that it supports the Gulftown. That being said it 95pct of people are going to upgrade their mobo when they do a new cpu anyways. As far as we know the only hexacore available for the next 12 months is the 980x which is an extreme edition and will have a pricetag to match.

With that being said... P55 is at a dead end. It was a limited chipset to start with and now that the new i3/i5 are shipping they're supporting the H55 chipset to take advantage of on-package GPU.

If you only buy once every 4 or 5 years, then you really might consider waiting one more month for your purchase. By the end of January Intel will have rolled out their entire line of new 32nm cores. I haven't researched them much, and I don't know how they'll fare against the quadcore i5/i7 especially with the on-package gpu, but if nothing else at least you'll have an informed decision.
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February 26, 2010 12:14:01 AM

well its time to pull the trigger on a new system, after some time and lots of reading i'm still at the same point, but with more knowledge in my hands

here are 3 builds i'm looking into, all 3 builds have the share some parts:

XFX Radeon HD 5870 vid. card
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
SAMSUNG Bla 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 PSU


the rest are cpu specific; MOBO, RAM and processor and i will keep my current monitor, LG 204WT, 1680x1050 max res. and my curent sound card, SB Audigy 2 ZS
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Intel i7-920 build
Intel i-920 proc.
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
or
MSI X58 Pro-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
6GB of G.Skill RAM

total: 1449.92$ before taxes depending on MOBO
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Intel i-860 build
Intel i-860 proc.
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard w/ USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s
or any good 1156/P55 MOBO under 200$
4GB of G.Skill RAM

total: 1376.92$ before taxes
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AMD 965 build
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD 790FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
or
ASUS Crosshair III Formula AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
or
MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
4GB of G.Skill RAM

total: 1277.42$ before taxes, with ASUS MOBO





what i want out of this new system is
- to be able to play the latest games at hi-res. (Battlefield Bad Comp. 2, Starcraft 2...) and to be able to play the latest games 4-5 years from now
- do some Photoshop without any hickups on large files
- watch movies/burning dvd's
- mp3 listening
- doing any of the above simultaniously
- and lastly, keep it for 4-5 years and still be 'in it'

witch one would you guys choose and wy?
(price wise i'd go with the AMD, get some cooling system along the way and OC it, and ad some RAM)
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