GEFORCE ...... ATI

[LAITHKHRESHEH]

Greatings everyone here .........\m/

I HAVE A PC AND IT'S SPECIFICATIONS : { INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.14 GHz , 3 GB OF DDR2 RAM }, {MSI GEFORCE 7300 LE 512 MB
PLAYING RANDOMLY ON 1024x1280 RESOLUTION

I want to buy a newer graphic card and i only have 2 options ..

1) XFX GEFORCE 9600 GSO 1.5 DDR2 FAR CRY 2 EDITION .

2) ATI RADEON HD 4670 512 MB DDR2 ..

So plz i need your help immediatly ..

 

[rolli59]

They perform about the same. Get the cheaper one unless you just want the ease of swapping a geforce for a geforce.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Yep, it's a crippled GSO so they're similar; the older model was better, but those two you have are about equal +/- in different apps.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

As you can see, they rate out about the same in the THG December roundup ....the GT would be a nice step up, but that doesn't appear to be an option. An important consideration is the following:

"While the GeForce requires a dedicated PCIe power connector to supply more juice than the Radeon, it does offer better performance in some situations." So if ya don't have a PCI-E power connector, it's really only one choice. If ya do have the connector, then get the faster card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-310-5970,2491.html

Here's the "winners" from THG's latest (December) GFX Roundup
Best Graphics Cards For The Money: December '09

$50 - HD 4650
$65 - HD 4670 / 9600 GSO
$85 - 9600 GT
$95 - 9600 GT / HD 4830
$110 - GTS 250 512 MB
$120 - GTS 250 1 GB
$155 - HD 5770 / GTX 260
$200 - HD 4890
$240 - 2 x GTS 250
$310 - No winner (HD 5850 Honorable Mention)
$330 - 2 x GTX 260 / 2 x HD 5770
$400 - 2 x HD 4890
$410 - No winner (HD 5870 Honorable Mention)
$465 - No winner (GTX 295 Honorable Mention)
$625 - No winner (HD 5970 Honorable Mention)

 

[sabot00]

Actually they trade blows too much to have a better card, I'd say get the 4670, since the times I've checked they are usually cheaper.
If you don't know the make/model of your PSU, it'll probably run a 4670 but not the 9600GSO, as the 9600GSO is a 8800GS.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

as the 9600GSO is a 8800GS.

Not always it's not, they are no longer based on the G92 the GSO is a crippled GF9600 (G94) and the performance is significantly slower than it used to be. The G92 GSO is slightly better than the HD4670, the G94 based GSO is slightly worse, so even the statement in the THG charts no longer applies and is a left over of the perception from when they were the G92s.

The one way to know for sure is if it doesn't have a power connector then it can only be the G94 version, and if that's the case, and it's stuck with DDR2, then it's going to be slower than the HD4670 DDR2. I would recommend with either get one with GDDR3 if you can, but if you're stuck then make sure the GSO is the G92 model (with power connector).

 

[jyjjy]

Actually the version of the 9600GSO you'll find these days seems to be random. The one the OP mentions in particular is the older version with 96 stream processors not the newer gimped version. However the ram is DDR2 not DDR3 which kinda sucks.
I'd get the HD4670 but not that one. Get one with DDR3 ram.

 

[LAITHKHRESHEH]

Thanks for all of you people ;-)

the GSO that i saw it have a power connectess

so ,would i go with the GSO ?

 

[jyjjy]

Either of those cards with DDR3 ram would be a much better choice. If those are really your only two options I guess the GSO as at least it has a wider bus to help mitigate the slow ram.

 

[makotech222]

Lol get the nvidia. All i hear about lately on game forums is the large amount of bugs that ATI cards get. Nvidia also has a habit of releasing driver updates (beta mostly) quicker than ati's once in a few month updates.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Nvidia also has a habit of releasing driver updates (beta mostly) quicker than ati's once in a few month updates.

Actually that's the other way around, ATi release a driver update every month but Nv have no such schedule (as far as I'm aware).

 

[sabot00]

I think the 4670 would be better, if the 9600GSO is the 8800GS then it is better but uses more power.
If the 9600GSO doesn't need a 6-pin then it is a G94 then it will be slower than the 4670 at the same power usage.

 

[jyjjy]

I think the 4670 would be better

DDR2 and an 128 bit bus sounds ugly imo.

 

[sabot00]

OP can you not find a DDR3 4670?
You said the 9600GSO had a power connector, thus it is a 8800GS, which would perform better than a 4670. Make sure your PSU can supply it though.

 

[LAITHKHRESHEH]

Ok tnx guys for help

today i bought SAPPHIRE RADEON HD 4670 1 GB DDR3 ;-)

I Want to ask if it good for medium gaming , resolution at 1280x1024 ?

 

[rolli59]

Ok tnx guys for help

today i bought SAPPHIRE RADEON HD 4670 1 GB DDR3 ;-)

I Want to ask if it good for medium gaming , resolution at 1280x1024 ?

Yes it is enjoy!

 

[LAITHKHRESHEH]

tnx for all of you ....

But i want to ask if it's good for overclocking and what's the best values for core , memory , and shaders FREQ , and the best programme for overclocking the graphic card ???

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

They are equal but 1 is much much better? Lay off the tea leaves, as Im sure theyre green

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

And a single warning Oki, if you spam REAL threads like this with your Fanboi crap, you're Outta Here !! [:thegreatgrapeape:4]

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

To the OP, you should be fine at that resolution, but for either of those cards as they age you would need to get used to the idea of moving the sliders to the left. You will need a little more power for harder games, but near term you should be fine with the HD4670, with it at righter side of the slider scale for now at gamer/high settings with the occasional bump into enthusiast/ultra settings. But expect in a year or so to need to put things closer to medium settings and maybe turn down or even off some effects that may just clobber those older mid-range cards.

 

[jyjjy]

Overclocking that processor would be a very good idea as well. It should be able to go much higher than 2.14 ghz even with the stock fan/heatsink.

 

[LAITHKHRESHEH]

No i meant overclocking the graphic card using RIVATUNER ?

 

[jyjjy]

You don't need any separate software as the card can be overclocked using the catalyst control center.
OCing the CPU is best done through the bios. It's a very good idea as your stock clock speed is quite low and it can easily be set much higher.

 

[LAITHKHRESHEH]

I can't overclock my CPU because the MOTHERBOARD is INTEL so i can't overclock it :-(

 

[jyjjy]

That's a shame.