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Would a 9400 gt increase my pc's performance ?

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January 5, 2010 5:03:09 PM

My spec :

BIOSTAR :: G31-M7 TE
Core 2 duo 2.93 ghz
3 gb ram
Geforce 210
power supply 450 watt

I set the settings in the nvidia control panel to performance intead of quality and crysis becomes playable at medium at a 800 x 600 resolution ( 23 fps avg ) . Recently , I tried playing the demo of nfs shift and it sucks coz while using 800 x 600 resolution ( 15 fps avg ) , I can't go full screen . So , this is why I need a better graphic card . Will a 9400 gt be enough ? If not , please direct me to a good card graphics with the same price tag . I don't mind ati radeon ..............
a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 5:30:33 PM

Hey TRG,

The 9400GT is not much better than the card you have. If you are very poor I would encourage you to go with the ATI 4650(~$50)-as it offers a little more power.

However--if you are serious about gaming you should at the very least go with a ATI 4670 (~65) This card is an extremely very good value.

You have a pretty decent processor for gaming--it wont bottleneck any graphic card--so if you wanted you could get something much more powerful and have very good gaming performance.

To help with the big picture of cards you can check out Tom's guide to best cards for the money December 09--some prices have shifted a little but its still helpful.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-310-5970,24...
January 5, 2010 5:34:36 PM

Hey deadlockedworld


THX 4 the link .... helped a lot ............................

Note : I'm not that poor. Just a teenager who needs to use his pocket money to buy a graphic card
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a c 169 U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 5:35:44 PM

No 9400GT isn't a good card for gaming,take a look at ATI HD 5770,it would be a good upgrade from your G210
a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 5:44:44 PM

Maziar said:
No 9400GT isn't a good card for gaming,take a look at ATI HD 5770,it would be a good upgrade from your G210


Yea the 5770 would be awesome if you can spend $170. Thats what im hoping to get when I have the money.
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The replacement for the 4670-- the 5670 should be released very soon--but we cant really predict if it will be $70 or $100... New cards often have higher prices. There is a possibility it will put downward pressure on other cards though.
a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 5:48:55 PM

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nah its not good at all. They are pretty much equal. GO for the 9600GT if you want gaming improvments. It can even run crysis @ very high no AA on a decent resolution.


The price difference between 9800GTs and 9600GTs is very small right now-- so if you are going to bump up past the 4670 mark you should go all the way to 9800gt at like $85 for the best value.
a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 6:29:54 PM

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well actually ^^ Why not just a 8800GT since its better than the 9800GT and equal price


The 8800GT and 9800GT are the same card--the newer ones are just rebranded :-) I havent seen 8800s for sale in a long time.
a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 6:33:17 PM

I can't find any 8800GT's on newegg, if he can find ones on ebay, etc then that's great, but he can probably get a lot of cheap 4850/4870's that way.
a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 6:58:52 PM

jyjjy said:
This is not a good card.


Oh crap I didn't notice the weird ram thing it has-- I was just linking a 9600gso that would be price competitive.


I still think your best values for the money in this price range are either a 4670 or 9800GT.
January 5, 2010 7:11:02 PM

As I live in Mauritius , buying on sites like newegg is not an option for me. So I will check with my local retailers and post back in about 1-2 days ................................................
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 7:35:50 PM

deadlockedworld said:
Oh crap I didn't notice the weird ram thing it has-- I was just linking a 9600gso that would be price competitive.
It's also the weak 48 stream processor/smaller bus version.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 5, 2010 7:36:54 PM

TRG said:
As I live in Mauritius , buying on sites like newegg is not an option for me. So I will check with my local retailers and post back in about 1-2 days ................................................

Ebay is probably a good idea.
January 6, 2010 3:51:39 AM

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January 6, 2010 12:12:57 PM

I was wondering that if I take a 4350 , by how much will my crysis fps increase and will I be able to run nfs : shift ? I was also wondering if for ati cards if there is a way to make it concentrate more on performance than quality just lke we can do in the nvidia control panel ?
a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2010 1:25:25 PM

TRG said:
I was wondering that if I take a 4350 , by how much will my crysis fps increase and will I be able to run nfs : shift ? I was also wondering if for ati cards if there is a way to make it concentrate more on performance than quality just lke we can do in the nvidia control panel ?



While the 4350 is a newer card--it was designed to be a video-watching card and will not be great for gaming. It is the bottom of the line for the 4xxx series.

In the ATI lineup models with higher numbers are typically higher performance, while those with lower numbers are intended for watching video.
(For instance I suggested the 4650 as the floor, which is 300 higher than the 4350)
January 6, 2010 1:29:22 PM

Thx 4 the reply .... i'm thinking of taking a 9500 gt
a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2010 3:03:17 PM

If the 9500 is the best you can get at your retailer...

What kind of price markup and card availability do you have in Mauritius? Can't you find somewhere to purchase online?
a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2010 3:34:42 PM

If 9500GT is the best you can get at a retailer, you might as well not upgrade.

Try ebay or amazon and see if they ship internationally.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 6, 2010 5:28:04 PM

Yeah, don't settle for less than an HD4670/9600GT
January 7, 2010 5:42:54 AM

The problem is that they're out of stock ........................ guess I'll wait for some time .............. thanks for your help though

Note : When I buy online ............. because of my location , the price is often nearly doubled
January 8, 2010 6:29:33 AM

Finally , they have the 9600 gt in stock , but to my great disapointment , I've just noticed that I don't have a pci express 6 pin connector in my power supply ; so I was wondering if the 9600 gt came with a 2 4-pin power connector to 6-pin power connector.
a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 7:46:07 AM

TRG said:
Finally , they have the 9600 gt in stock , but to my great disapointment , I've just noticed that I don't have a pci express 6 pin connector in my power supply ; so I was wondering if the 9600 gt came with a 2 4-pin power connector to 6-pin power connector.


Some do, some don't ... does it say on the outside of the box? Or, if you know the exact model in the box look it up online to find out--sites like newegg will show what the contents of the box include.
January 8, 2010 9:17:45 AM

I'll look into it ..... thx
a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 9:37:41 AM

Wat is ur max budget?
a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 5:01:06 PM

TRG said:
I'll look into it ..... thx


If you dont find one you can get 6-pin adapters for 2.99 on newegg. The shipping kind of screws you though since its $5. Maybe you can find one in a store nearby?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Maybe if you got it with something else on amazon you could get free shipping?
January 8, 2010 5:49:23 PM

I recently came across what seems to be an alternative the gt 240 ... what do you think ?
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 5:56:25 PM

It performs similarly to the 9600GT(slightly weaker) and here at least it is overpriced. Only consider it if it is the same price and also has DDR5 ram. As for the 9600GT most of the new ones do NOT actually need or have a slot for an extra power connector. If you can find out the brand and model of the 9600GT that is available to you then we can tell you if it needs one or if it does have a converter. This is also a reasonable question to ask the retailer.
a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 5:59:09 PM

^+1 The GT 240 with ddr5 is similar to a 9600GT, the one with ddr3 is slower. The GT 240 card does not need a 6-pin connector, however--so that might simplify things a little. I think its an ok buy if its within $10-15 of the 9600GT, but otherwise no.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 6:08:37 PM

I've not heard that about the 9600GT and the GTS 240 is a rebadged 9800GT, not 9600GT. It hasn't been mentioned anyway, just the GT 240 which isn't a rebadged anything.
a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 6:21:23 PM

Quote:
Ignore the 9600 GT, they have been known to have compatibility problems with certain motherboard chipsets. Even today on the TH forum I've diagnosed about 3 or 4 people with a dodgy 9600 GT, its so sad telling them that there is no fix. I worry that the GTS 240 will have the same issue as its a rebadged 9600 GT. These compatibility issue usually causes random lock ups, blue screens of deaths and black screens of deaths.



I find this statement highly questionable. The GT 240 is based on nvidias GT200 architecture, not the older G92/94. It is not a rebadge of anything--it is a replacement. (albeit a slightly slower one) Also.. that 9600gt has been around for a while, has mature drivers, and is nearing the end of its lifespan. I have trouble believing it would have compatibility issues that other cards would not...

The 9600GT or 9800GT would be excellent choices for his price range/international availability.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 6:44:53 PM

Well which chipsets in that case? I haven't heard of this before to be honest and you shouldn't "diagnose" that it is the problem unless you know specifically that it is so.
January 8, 2010 6:45:38 PM

TRG said:
My spec :

BIOSTAR :: G31-M7 TE
Core 2 duo 2.93 ghz
3 gb ram
Geforce 210
power supply 450 watt

I set the settings in the nvidia control panel to performance intead of quality and crysis becomes playable at medium at a 800 x 600 resolution ( 23 fps avg ) . Recently , I tried playing the demo of nfs shift and it sucks coz while using 800 x 600 resolution ( 15 fps avg ) , I can't go full screen . So , this is why I need a better graphic card . Will a 9400 gt be enough ? If not , please direct me to a good card graphics with the same price tag . I don't mind ati radeon ..............


The 9400 is no where near enough. I have a 9800gt and thats not enough sometimes for certain games. I can't use max settings never. I don't know how much money you have to spend? It sounds to me like you have at least X16 PCI express or 2.0. So you you have a lot of choices. You need a 9800 GTX 1G, 9800 GT OC 1G, 250 GTS, 250 GTS OC, ATI 5770, 260 GTX or the 275 GTX. To tell you the truth the ATI 5750 for around 140.00 would be a better card than the 9800's. it sounds like your working with a limitted funds, so you can pick up a 9800 GT OC with stock overclock for around 100.00 at best buy. You could get a 9800 GTX with faster speeds than the 9800GT for just about the same price, and you could get the 250 GTS for barely more as well, and they will all deliver a big difference from that old 9400 series. Marcmd34
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 8:02:23 PM

Are you sure this applies to the newer cards? I mean the card came out years ago and I haven't notice above average complaints about it around here or newegg review, ect.
January 8, 2010 8:26:57 PM

This is the first time I've heard of those problems.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 8, 2010 9:01:27 PM

Actually I think most people go out of their way to give negative reviews when the encounter a problem and probably wouldn't have bothered to review it if not.
September 21, 2010 12:58:14 PM

:pt1cable:  IT WORKS & WOULD ALSO SYNC WITH UR PC SPEC :hello: 
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