[Help] 200mm Radiator for BitFenix Raider

[UVB076]

As far as I know, there are 2 200mm radiators on the market, the Antec and the Phobya. Which one is better? What other parts would be recommended? I am running a i5-3570K with an Asus P8Z77-V Lk and Vengeance RAM inside a BitFenix Spectre Pro. Which 200mm fans are the best? Would Bitfenix Spectre Pros to the job well?

 

[toolmaker_03]

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14953/duc-54/FrozenCPU_200mm_to_120140mm_Fan_Adapter.html?tl=g47c121s262

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11639/fan-747/Aerocool_Shark_Black_Edition_140mm_x_25mm_High_Air_Pressure_Fan.html?tl=g36c15s775





this kind of setup will preform as well as a push/pull setup but i like shrouds.

the 200's chosen will do the job fine though

i have used phobya's rads before and they worked fine i have never had an antec rad so i do not know.

 

[UVB076]

What pump, resevoirs, tubes or blocks are good?

 

[toolmaker_03]

well i can tell you what i like and what i have used here is a link to my build remember this is after 15 years of doing this, i did not start out this way.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274855-29-experimental-radiator-build

i like the 655 series of pumps

i like the tube style res

i like thick wall tubing 3/8ID 5/8OD i did not get it because all of my fittings are 3/8ID 1/2OD and i did not want to buy all new ones

i like copper blocks thay seem to work well

but this is me, you may have different tastes then me. The bits power res is what I own, chemical resistant tubing lasts longer than other types, I am currently using norprene tubing to see if it lasts longer than the chemical resistant, and the 655 series pumps give me a solid 5 years at 24/7 operation.

 

[UVB076]

What parts would you suggest if i want to keep the price down. What is the cheapest i could get with decent quality?

 

[toolmaker_03]

https://us-dc2-order.store.yahoo.net/sidewindercomputers/cgi-bin/wg-order?ysco_key_event_id=&ysco_key_store_id=sidewindercomputers&sectionId=ysco.cart

sidewinder has some pretty cheep stuff but i would also suggest a shroud for the fans

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9131/cpa-281/Tecnofront_AirBox_360_-_Acrylic_.html?tl=g30c429s1074

and that would be a good startup system

 

[UVB076]

The thing is, the BitFenix Raider only has a 200mm fan mount on top and the 120mm on the back. How about the Koolance RP-985 for a resevoir/pump?

 

[toolmaker_03]

it is a smaller pump but it should handle the loop as far as radiators are you wanting to use 1 2x200mm and 1 2x120mm rads?

 

[toolmaker_03]

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12480/ex-res-254/Koolance_RP-452X2_Dual_525_Reservoir_Rev_20_Serial_or_Parallel_for_1_or_2_Pumps_RP-450_Laing_D5_MCP655-B_MCP655.html?tl=c107s152b4&id=wf4UUi83

i like this one better and you can install only one pump

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13147/ex-pmp-131/Alphacool_VPP655_Variable_Speed_Pump_w_RPM_Monitoring_-_Single_Edition.html?tl=g30c107s153

 

[UVB076]

That seems pretty expensive.

 

[UVB076]

By the way, my case literally can't mount a dual 120mm rad.

 

[toolmaker_03]

Well I do call myself toolmaker if I wanted it all in the case or on it in this matter. I would remove the lower half of the HHD cage and mount the 2X120mm there, with cut out’s for the exhaust you may need to put larger feet on the case for proper air flow and the 2x200mm I would mount on the top of the case on the outside of it. It is not hard to cut holes in a case and drill a couple of holes for bolts to hold it all together.
Here have a look at mine and you can get the idea I don’t let the little things stop me.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274855-29-experimental-radiator-build

 

[UVB076]

I have a XFX PSU so the bottom fans are out of the question. Any good 5.25 drive bay res/pump options? I do not hve any optical drives

 

[toolmaker_03]

As far as the 360 setup I was going to suggest a rad box made out of wood they work quite well and the case can be placed on top of it MOTO built one and it came out looking very nice had a bay res with pump mounted in it as well

 

[UVB076]

I would prefer all internal. What is the best single drive bay resevoir/pump combo? I want to use a Mountain Mods Acrylic fan drive bay cover to keep positive airflow.

 

[toolmaker_03]

https://frozenqshop.com/index.php/reservoirs/bay.html

well these look pretty cool

but for a single bay i would go with somthing like this

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16426/ex-res-375/Koolance_RP-401X2_Single_525_Reservoir_w_PWM_Pumps_Installed_Rev_11.html?tl=g30c97s168

 

[UVB076]

By the way I do not care about the looks of it. The front bezel covers would hide it.

 

[UVB076]

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LNyMSBUc
What do you think of these parts?

 

[toolmaker_03]

Ok I get what you’re doing, your asking if a 200mm rad with fan can support a CPU the answer is yes, but when you go to clock it the temps will only be as good as an expensive air cooler, it will get a little hot under load clocked. If I were to guess I would say around 155 F top. I am basing this on my systems that I have built with 2 x 240 rads and fans. The system clocked would heat up after a few hours and I would have to shut down the game for an hour to let it cool down.

 

[UVB076]

Whats a good coolant to run through the system? And will a rear 120mm radiator help?

 

[toolmaker_03]

I have never really worried about whether it was a rear top or bottom mounted if you have good air flow through the case it will work fine you do not want to be pulling or pushing hot air through the rad.
As far as coolant I am currently using water wetter at 3% distilled water at 97% and 3 drops of HTH super extended algae guard added every 2 months flushed and filled every 6 months.
Before this I used water wetter 3% antifreeze 17% and distilled water 80% for years without any issues what I am using now is new for me.

 

[UVB076]

I'll have a 120mm fan on the top 3 optical bays, so there will be fresh air.
So I have all the parts down, just need tubes? Are the parts good?

 

[toolmaker_03]

the parts listed above are good parts and I like the thick wall tubing so 3/8 ID 5/8 OD tubing with fittings to match I like the chemical resistant tubing but the norprene may be a better buy I do not know yet I haven’t had it long enough to know

chemical resistant tubing will give you a solid 6 years before having to be replaced.

 

[UVB076]

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[UVB076]

Thank you man, I'll keep this stuff in mind.