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January 11, 2010 3:59:47 AM

^ Just read the open box policy carefully before you buy one...
And as for the components, some suggestions...

1. RAM - Better options for nearly the same price...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

2. CPU cooler - Definetly a different one...
CM Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. SSD - That Kingston drive is fine but the performance will degrade after usage because of the absence of TRIM...
I would suggest you get a config like this...
40GB SSD - OS + Main Apps - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or maybe even a bigger drive like this one -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

500GB for rest of the data - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 11, 2010 4:06:29 AM

Looks pretty good just a couple things :

1. Instead of that Case\CPU combo I'd instead do this Combo ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... ) - Same case but a 700W OCZ PSU vs the 700W Cooler master for $30 less and an extra $30 MIR !!

2.) Be careful of the OPen Box items - many times they will be missing things like the SATA cables - case faceplate etc. and the open box return policy doesn't cover replacing them !!

EDIT : and I'd agree with G-kay about the CPU cooler - not up to date on the SD drives so can't comment on them
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January 11, 2010 4:27:07 AM

JDFan said:
Looks pretty good just a couple things :

1. Instead of that Case\CPU combo I'd instead do this Combo ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... ) - Same case but a 700W OCZ PSU vs the 700W Cooler master for $30 less and an extra $30 MIR !!

2.) Be careful of the OPen Box items - many times they will be missing things like the SATA cables - case faceplate etc. and the open box return policy doesn't cover replacing them !!

EDIT : and I'd agree with G-kay about the CPU cooler - not up to date on the SD drives so can't comment on them


you see i was going for that combo and then read the reviews and it seems like so many people have said that it just goes and starts smoking and spilling goo. also how about this combo then is it on par with the other one Lancool dragon lord + ocz 700w fatal1y power supply
January 11, 2010 4:28:39 AM

gkay09 said:
^ Just read the open box policy carefully before you buy one...
And as for the components, some suggestions...

1. RAM - Better options for nearly the same price...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

2. CPU cooler - Definetly a different one...
CM Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. SSD - That Kingston drive is fine but the performance will degrade after usage because of the absence of TRIM...
I would suggest you get a config like this...
40GB SSD - OS + Main Apps - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or maybe even a bigger drive like this one -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

500GB for rest of the data - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


and the choice for the 1333 ram was that reviews have shown little to no difference in choosing 1333 over 1600 but if you know otherwise then i will definite go with one of the choices u have mentioned
January 11, 2010 4:35:04 AM

syxxnyne69 said:
and the choice for the 1333 ram was that reviews have shown little to no difference in choosing 1333 over 1600 but if you know otherwise then i will definite go with one of the choices u have mentioned


It's more than just that; the RAM gkay09 posted has better timings and/or better prices.
I also agree with the 212+ suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, I agree with gkay09's entire post. Didn't overlook anything. :o 
January 11, 2010 5:06:20 AM

^ Good changes...but I would suggest you stick with the initial PSU + CASE combo...
Reason - The CM PSU had the required power and power connectors for 2x HD 5870 crossfire - 4x 6 PIN unlike the other PSUs that has been linked, which have the required power but not enough power connectors...

You can check out this case - NZXT M59 - Looks radical and also has good features and interiors...IT was used in TOM's $1300 build and it turned out pretty good...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-own-pc,2503.h...

RAM - Like blackjellognomes said, the one I had linked has better speed and timings for less...

CPU cooler - That Corsair H50 is also good but it is a low-end water-cooling setup...So dont expect it to offer very good performance(4+ GHz) but upto 3.8GHz should be doable...
January 11, 2010 5:35:37 AM

also i can go up to $1500 but i want best performance and does have to be too cosmetic as the haf 922 seems awesome
January 11, 2010 5:44:22 AM

^ You wont need that Mushkin RAM...If you are an extreme overclocker, then it would benefit...else it wont be any better than that Corsair...
If you wont be going crossfire, then you should check out the i7 860/ P55 - At stocke speeds, the 860 is faster than the 920 and also the 860 has better Turbo mode(Overclocks itself)...

And for a single HD 5870, any of these PSUs would suffice...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 11, 2010 5:49:06 AM

i thought on p55 mobo that high end gpu's like the 5870 that im getting do not perform to their full potential if im incorrect me asap so i can adjust my build properly. also i was under the impression that a 5870 needed at least 600w or 650w psu
January 11, 2010 5:56:33 AM

gkay, the 860 maybe faster, but 920 supports triple channel. Turbo mode, it's joke if your just going to OC, which pretty much renders most of the p55 perks moot.
Turbo has to stay in the thermal envelope.
syxx, no, it's fine for a single card, i'm personally a little iffy on my knowledge about the 2 x8 lanes vs full x16 lanes, but from what i've seen/heard, there isn't much of a difference, even on quad sli/quadfire.

I'd check your case size, but a v8 works great for me, but scythe and xigmatek both make great coolers. Whatever you do, don't waste money on a v10, it's a waste of money, RAM cooler, you don't really need it.
January 11, 2010 6:08:03 AM

ok so im not planning on overclocking would my best bet be to go with an 860 and since im not overclocking i wouldnt need that water cooler correct.

also is there a huge difference between the core i5 750 and core i7 860 because i was looking at that $1300 system marathon here on tomshardware and that rig looks sweet

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January 11, 2010 6:24:57 AM
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@Flying Sq, you are correct that the 920 offers those features...but do you think that it would benefit the OP ? For his usage, I dont think so...
And also about the Turbo, yes you are correct that it has to stay in the thermal envelope, and also in turbo mode, the 860 again beats the 920...So for a 95W TDP CPU to beat at 130W TDP CPU is pretty nice...

And @syxxnyne69 the TOM's $1300 build is very good...and is more than enough for gaming(Can play nearly all the games maxed out at 1080p...you would have seen in that article too)

For gaming, there is only a marginal increase in performance between an i7 860 and i5 750...The i5 shines even better when overclocked...And at stock speeds, the 750 is faster than the AMD 965...

Cooling - Yes you wont need that cooler, instead get the CM Hyper 212+...Will keep the CPU cooler at stock speeds...
January 11, 2010 6:40:59 AM

gkay09 said:
@Flying Sq, you are correct that the 920 offers those features...but do you think that it would benefit the OP ? For his usage, I dont think so...
And also about the Turbo, yes you are correct that it has to stay in the thermal envelope, and also in turbo mode, the 860 again beats the 920...So for a 95W TDP CPU to beat at 130W TDP CPU is pretty nice...

And @syxxnyne69 the TOM's $1300 build is very good...and is more than enough for gaming(Can play nearly all the games maxed out at 1080p...you would have seen in that article too)

For gaming, there is only a marginal increase in performance between an i7 860 and i5 750...The i5 shines even better when overclocked...And at stock speeds, the 750 is faster than the AMD 965...

Cooling - Yes you wont need that cooler, instead get the CM Hyper 212+...Will keep the CPU cooler at stock speeds...



would you mind suggesting a core i5 750 build similar to tom's 1300$ build
January 11, 2010 6:59:01 AM

^ Why not stick with the same config ? Except for the RAM - get this one...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Rest of the components are very good...
You can stick wtih the CM HAF 922 + CM 700W for the CASE + PSU...If you have any other doubts, feel free to ask...
January 11, 2010 7:16:43 AM

will that crossfire run better than 1 5870
January 11, 2010 7:22:51 AM

that board is no longer avail.
January 11, 2010 9:05:42 AM

I didn't know he wasn't going to be OCing, so, yea, i'd hit up an 860 then, and you really don't need to buy an after market cooler at that point, intel's cooler for the 920 is great, and i'd suspect the same for the 1156 socket.
But yea, i'm running 4.2 on my 920, so turbo mode is just sort of there to sit on its hands.
I'm against 1156 because it doesn't offer much in the future, 6, 8 cores, 1366 might even be out of the picture by 8, but still. The 860 is a good chip for people who don't plan on going more than quad core in the foreseeable future.
January 11, 2010 9:32:07 AM

Go with tom's RIG
It will out perform a 5870 and will play more than most of the titles

Good Luck
January 11, 2010 9:38:52 AM

EDIT: Dint refresh...

^ You are right about the P55 will not get an 8-core CPU and all...but I dont see the need for it say in 2-3 years time frame for a mainstream user...
Apps and games are yet to take full advantage of the Quads...
And also the 860 like 920, has hyper-threading - 4 cores/ 8 logical threads...So the 860 will also last longer...And by the time the 860's performance feels inadequate, the OP might buy a new PC (3+ years)...
January 12, 2010 2:25:08 AM

^ Yes that PSU is good enough for HD 5870 and will still have some headroom left for other add-in components too...
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