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January 12, 2010 5:09:10 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week to next week.
BUDGET RANGE: 800-1000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (most of the time FPS, like MW2, upcoming BFBC2, Valve Games), Ripping and transcoding media files, download nzb (including raring and paring), Hackintosh

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
* DVD
* Keyboard
* Mouse
* Monitor
* HD

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, zipzoomfly.com, and amazon.com.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: Netural.

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Not right now but may do in the future. I just have hard time justify doing SLI when single better video card come out that can beat SLI's benchmark in long run.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050 (currently), future: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I am pretty much flexible with this.


Here is what I am planning on ordering, kind of mixed between Gaming and Enthusiast. Heres the parts that I am comfortable in getting, however if someone have feedback on this, im more than happy to hear them:

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GPU: XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PS: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Heres some information that I have not yet made. This is where I need your feedback in.

CPU: Right now I am leaning toward Intel platform due to hackistosh- so i really have two CPU choice, help me narrow this down- Is it worth the money going for 860? or should i play "money-saver" and go for 750?
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Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOBO: this is where I am pulling hairs out. there are zillion different mobos now than before. (I have been building computer for 10+ years). Right now I prefer Asus or Gigabyte. Max is $200 here. I am pretty much torn between those-
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GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD4 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard w/ USB 3.0 & SATA 6 Gb/s - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Whats the difference between those two other than the size (mATX vs ATX)? the comparsion didnt really show except that the latter have USB 3.0/SATA 3.0, are they worth having it?

My second thought goes to Asus P7P55D. Like Gigabyte, theres dozen different model.


EDIT: Forgot the case! heres what I have in mind so far

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COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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January 12, 2010 5:49:22 AM

A few comments:
* Do you need an OS?? If so, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit at the least!
* Did you settle on an Intel i5 750/i7 860?? Would you consider an AMD build??
* The Corsair 750tx is a great PSU, but with only on a single GPU solution, your better off with a PSU in the 450-550w range. This will allow you to fit within the 50% power band that most PSU's run efficiently at.
* As far as the RAM, I prefer RAM that runs on tight timings (Cas 7 for DDR3) and at the stock voltage (1.5v). This allows the best of both worlds, if you ask me. You get fast RAM at stock voltages and will allow for a possible better OC, if you decide to do that later.
* Any of the cases that you selected are good ones. I have built a system around the CM 690 case ($90 shipped!!) and I really like it. The HAF 922 looks good too, but is $110 shipped and has the same amount of fans as the CM 690 does. So to me the CM 690 case wins between the 2 cases, IMHO. The Antec case comes w/4 120mm fans, but is currently at $120 shipped. Personally I'd rather save the $ (CM 690) and use if for upgrades on other parts (GPU mainly). It's up to you, because cases are a very personal thing. Anyone of the cases will do a good job, but I thought I'd let you know where I'm coming from.
* For a "Gaming" rig around $800-1k, I'd seriously consider getting a 5850/5870 (~$300-$400). These cards will take advantage of the higher resolutions and will play anything out there very well.

Let me break down how I think this build will work out:

CPU - ~$200 Intel i5 750 (Nice CPU)
or
CPU - ~$170 AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition (Easily OC's to 3.6-3.8 gHz!!)

Mobo (Intel) - ~$120 - $150 depending on options
or
Mobo (AMD) - ~$80 - $120 depending on options

GPU/RAM/HD/Case/PSU/DVD all can be used for either options (AMD/Intel).

That's about $320-350 for an Intel setup or about $250-290 for the AMD one. Obviously depending on the options that you select, you can come up with other numbers.

Add:
GPU - $300 (5850)
Mobo - $120 - 150 (Intel based mobo)
Mobo - $80-120 (AMD based mobo)
RAM - $100 (Cas7 @ 1.5v)
HD - $55-75 (depending on needs)
Case - $90-120 (depending on Case you select, there are cheaper solutions too)
PSU - $70-100 (also depending on which one, I like Antec/Corsair/PCP&C/Seasonic/BFG)
DVD - $30-40

Total (Intel) - ~$760 (core parts) + $200 (i5 750) = ~$960 or so.
Total (AMD) - ~$720 (core parts) + $170 (x4 955) = ~$890 or so.

This shows that you'd pay about $70 difference for an Intel build, not that it is a bad thing.

Pro's w/Intel build:
* Generally consumes less power.
* Auto OC's the CPU when needed (small percentage 5-10%, IIRC).

Con's:
* Costs more, including the CPU & Mobo.
* No CPU upgrade path at this point (s1156), unless you upgrade to i7 860.

Pro's for AMD build:
* Costs less to build.
* OC's easily, 1 minute to adjust multiplier in BIOS will get you to 3.6-3.8 gHz w/no voltage changes!
* Generally more options/ports on the AMD mobo's/$.
* With less cost to CPU/Mobo, you can use the extra $ to upgrade your GPU, which is better for gaming needs!
* Future upgrades on AM3 sockets look promising.

Con's:
* Consumes a bit more power than the i5 750 CPU, overall.
* Is generally about 95% or greater performance to the i5 750, depending on which benchmark you look at. This might change with a CPU upgrade later, but for now that is where it's at.


There ya go! Let us know some more details and we can suggest a build for you.

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January 12, 2010 5:30:00 PM

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A few comments:
* Do you need an OS?? If so, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit at the least!

yeah. I am getting windows 7 Pro via MSDNAA. :) 
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* Did you settle on an Intel i5 750/i7 860?? Would you consider an AMD build??
I am more settling into intel due to hackistosh. its easier for me to do that imo.
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* The Corsair 750tx is a great PSU, but with only on a single GPU solution, your better off with a PSU in the 450-550w range. This will allow you to fit within the 50% power band that most PSU's run efficiently at.
so should I get 650w instead? or go for 550w? I am sticking to cosair brand because i have had experiecne with other brands and cosair turned to be the best so far. less problem.
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* As far as the RAM, I prefer RAM that runs on tight timings (Cas 7 for DDR3) and at the stock voltage (1.5v). This allows the best of both worlds, if you ask me. You get fast RAM at stock voltages and will allow for a possible better OC, if you decide to do that later.
Which would you suggest? I pulled the RAM out from the recommendation list. in this forum
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* Any of the cases that you selected are good ones. I have built a system around the CM 690 case ($90 shipped!!) and I really like it. The HAF 922 looks good too, but is $110 shipped and has the same amount of fans as the CM 690 does. So to me the CM 690 case wins between the 2 cases, IMHO. The Antec case comes w/4 120mm fans, but is currently at $120 shipped. Personally I'd rather save the $ (CM 690) and use if for upgrades on other parts (GPU mainly). It's up to you, because cases are a very personal thing. Anyone of the cases will do a good job, but I thought I'd let you know where I'm coming from.
I am thinking the same. that helps!
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* For a "Gaming" rig around $800-1k, I'd seriously consider getting a 5850/5870 (~$300-$400). These cards will take advantage of the higher resolutions and will play anything out there very well.
so are you telling me its better to spend more $$$ on GPU rather than on the processor?
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Let me break down how I think this build will work out:

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thanks for your feedback. What bout the mobos?
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January 13, 2010 1:44:28 AM

So here's your build:
CPU - i5 750 (good buy here on a good CPU)
Mobo - $143 shipped! I like this board for the upgrades (USB 3.0/SATA 3) and price!
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - 4890/5770 Both are about the same performance. The 5770 has Dx11, which the 4890 doesn't have. I'm not sure this is a big deal, but thought I'd mention this. The 5770 does consume less power than the 4890 too, so something to consider. Also the 5770 is a bit cheaper too, so consider that in your decision making. I'd probably go with a 5850 (~$300), if your going for more of a gaming system. And yes it's better to have a good CPU and a GREAT GPU than a GREAT CPU and a an OK GPU, when considering a gaming system.

Case - $90 CM 690 case, I'm guessing by your responses??

PSU - The Corsair 550vx is plenty for a single GPU solution. It's going for $76 after the $10 MIRc. The 650tx is also plenty for your system and is $80 after the MIRc. So either will do the job well. The 750tx is a beast too, so it's a good buy also, but just seems a bit overkill for the single GPU solution, IMHO.

I didnt' see any notes about the monitor resolution that your using. Could you tell what it is??
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