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January 8, 2010 6:39:26 AM

max out WoW at 1920x1080? I listed my system and display info. I'm not trying to get the highest end graphic's card or cpu because I would probably need to buy extra stuff like a liquid cooling thing or a larger tower. Basically, I want to be able to play World of Warcraft at 1920x1080 with maximum settings. I want it to be able to handle 30-50 players on the screen inside a town without having any framerate issues. I have verizon Fios, so I don't have any internet connection issues. My bandwith is like 25 mb. Anyways, I hope to get some input from any of you hardware gurus.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/8/2010, 03:30:59
Machine name: LEE-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.090803-2339)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dell XPS430
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A00
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 6078MB RAM
Page File: 2812MB used, 9544MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3650
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9598)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9598&SUBSYS_22421028&REV_00
Display Memory: 3032 MB
Dedicated Memory: 249 MB
Shared Memory: 2782 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: atidxx32,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atiumdva,atiumd64.dll,atiumd6a.dat,atitmm64.dll
Driver Version: 7.15.0010.0119 (English)
DDI Version: 10.1
BGRA Supported: No
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/3/2008 02:25:16, 1563648 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6D8-11CF-D671-4802A1C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9598
SubSys ID: 0x22421028
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
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DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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January 8, 2010 8:26:36 AM

I was thinking of a GTX 260, 275, or 285. I know that WotLK is more graphics intensive due to shadow rendering and stuff like that.
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January 8, 2010 8:49:17 AM

2 threads for the same thing...
As I said in the other thread: ATI 5850/5870. nVidia doesn't compete at the moment. These cards are newer, consume less and can run DX11. If you are an nVidiot then please ignore everything I just said and go get your overpriced nVidia 285.
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January 8, 2010 9:02:45 AM

Well does it have problems at all? I do like hardware that doesn't break down on me for no good reason.
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January 8, 2010 9:05:48 AM

Whoops
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January 8, 2010 9:06:42 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
2 threads for the same thing...
As I said in the other thread: ATI 5850/5870. nVidia doesn't compete at the moment. These cards are newer, consume less and can run DX11. If you are an nVidiot then please ignore everything I just said and go get your overpriced nVidia 285.


Oh yeah. I want a very strong single videocard as WoW doesn't currently run on sli. And with my current cpu and hardware, will an ati 5870 have issues? I might have to change my power thingy to work with it. I have the dell xps430. Is it large enough to fit a card like that into it?
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January 8, 2010 9:09:51 AM

soknar said:
Well does it have problems at all? I do like hardware that doesn't break down on me for no good reason.


Stop ignoring rumors created by stupid idiots 10 years ago. ATI and nVidia have the same amount of problems. Both create GPU that malfunction for no good reason. #### happens.

Check some benchmarks. If you want good performance for acceptable price go for the 5850.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3650&p=7

If you want even more for more $$ go for the 5870.
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January 8, 2010 9:14:05 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
Stop ignoring rumors created by stupid idiots 10 years ago. ATI and nVidia have the same amount of problems. Both create GPU that malfunction for no good reason. #### happens.

Check some benchmarks. If you want good performance for acceptable price go for the 5850.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3650&p=7

If you want even more for more $$ go for the 5870.


I don't mind spending extra money, but it'd be nice to have 2 different links to the 5850 or 5870 for me to decide on. And I have no idea what i'm looking at when shopping for videocards. I don't have watercooling in my tower or anything. I don't need anything fancy. I noticed that some have higher clock speeds or whatever. I don't understand that stuff. I just want something that works with WoW perfectly under any conditions.
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January 8, 2010 9:16:40 AM

soknar said:
Oh yeah. I want a very strong single videocard as WoW doesn't currently run on sli. And with my current cpu and hardware, will an ati 5870 have issues? I might have to change my power thingy to work with it. I have the dell xps430. Is it large enough to fit a card like that into it?


You have a 425W Dell PSU, which is pretty reliable. You might not need to change it for the 5850. The 5870 I don't think it will fit inside that mATX case. So I suggest going for the 5850 card. To be on the safe side you can buy a Corsair 550W PSU. That will surely run the card with no problems.
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January 8, 2010 9:17:10 AM

I think that I might purchase this from circuit city. I just saw the link. I'm afraid to do anything with the videocard by myself. haha
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January 8, 2010 9:19:11 AM

soknar said:
I don't mind spending extra money, but it'd be nice to have 2 different links to the 5850 or 5870 for me to decide on. And I have no idea what i'm looking at when shopping for videocards. I don't have watercooling in my tower or anything. I don't need anything fancy. I noticed that some have higher clock speeds or whatever. I don't understand that stuff. I just want something that works with WoW perfectly under any conditions.


I will give you another link to a review, but they don't test WOW, they test more challenging games, so it is ok.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_5850_PCS_Plus/29.html
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January 8, 2010 9:20:11 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
You have a 425W Dell PSU, which is pretty reliable. You might not need to change it for the 5850. The 5870 I don't think it will fit inside that mATX case. So I suggest going for the 5850 card. To be on the safe side you can buy a Corsair 550W PSU. That will surely run the card with no problems.


mmm... Does circuit city actually let you try and fit the videocards into your case before buying it?
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January 8, 2010 9:24:46 AM

I'm sold on buying either the 5850 or 5870, but I really want to see if i can fit the 5870 into this tower.
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January 8, 2010 9:28:41 AM

soknar said:
I'm sold on buying either the 5850 or 5870, but I really want to see if i can fit the 5870 into this tower.


I don't think it will fit. It is a pretty long video card. You can open the case and measure the distance between the end of the case and the hard drive enclosure to see. The 5870 is 11.5 inches if I am not mistaken.
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January 8, 2010 9:35:40 AM

hallowed_dragon said:
I don't think it will fit. It is a pretty long video card. You can open the case and measure the distance between the end of the case and the hard drive enclosure to see. The 5870 is 11.5 inches if I am not mistaken.


Wow. 11.5 inches is pretty long.
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January 8, 2010 9:36:49 AM

Is the 5850 more than enough? I don't mind settling for that, but can you help me to find a good one to buy? I don't know if a standard or overclocked one is better. I don't really understand that stuff.
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January 8, 2010 9:41:36 AM

soknar said:
Is the 5850 more than enough? I don't mind settling for that, but can you help me to find a good one to buy? I don't know if a standard or overclocked one is better. I don't really understand that stuff.


Get a standard one. Don't spend money on overpriced factory overclocked cards. You can achieve those overclocks yourself with little knowledge. Get an XFX, Sapphire, HIS brand. I suggest going for the 5850, because the 5870 is a gamble with your case. The 5850 will satisfy all your needs.
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January 8, 2010 9:42:22 AM

Alright thank you so much!
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January 8, 2010 1:24:02 PM

A 5850 won't fit in all cases... most? Yes. All? No. And that's even more true for a 5870.
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January 8, 2010 3:16:24 PM

rodney_ws said:
A 5850 won't fit in all cases... most? Yes. All? No. And that's even more true for a 5870.


Are you saying that it won't fit in my case?
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January 8, 2010 3:22:16 PM

soknar said:
Are you saying that it won't fit in my case?


He is saying that you should still measure the case like I told you in another post.
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