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January 10, 2010 5:20:30 PM

Hy guys, i was gonna buy an i5 6gb 1333mhz ram and an gtx 260 1.8gb but the company i was gonna buy it with had a delay on my deliver and i think im gonna cancel it... i just saw an i7 with 4gb ram 1060htz and a ATI 5870 1GB but is 400 dollars more expensive and im thinking about buying it do you guys think its whorth it or should i save my 400 dollars ?

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a b U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 5:28:30 PM

A GTX260 doesn't need more than 896mb.
Is the i7 a i7 920 or i7 860?
It's not worth the price increase because you can buy a 5870 for $400

You should get the cheapest option in terms of graphics cards, and then upgrade the GPU yourself.
January 10, 2010 5:56:45 PM

let me check
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January 10, 2010 5:58:17 PM

ati hd 5870 is much better than the gtx 260 right ?
January 10, 2010 7:39:39 PM

Bluescreendeath said:
A GTX260 doesn't need more than 896mb.
Is the i7 a i7 920 or i7 860?
It's not worth the price increase because you can buy a 5870 for $400

You should get the cheapest option in terms of graphics cards, and then upgrade the GPU yourself.




i7 920 8mb 2.66 ati HD 5870 owns gtx 260 right ?
a c 1408 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 7:40:46 PM

Yes it does!
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 7:44:57 PM

You would almost definitely be best off buying a system without a video card and then purchasing it separately. This is a great deal on an HD5850;
deadlockedworld said:
Dell has the 5850 on sale: -- $251 after coupon code 1SC0KPSK$BN10J

http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/192833
a c 231 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 7:51:00 PM

lexrg said:
ati hd 5870 is much better than the gtx 260 right ?


This article provides a great breakdown and the conclusions are summarized below

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-310-5970,24...

Here's the "winners" from THG's latest (December) GFX Roundup
Best Graphics Cards For The Money: December '09

$50 - HD 4650
$65 - HD 4670 / 9600 GSO
$85 - 9600 GT
$95 - 9800 GT / HD 4830
$110 - GTS 250 512 MB
$120 - GTS 250 1 GB
$155 - HD 5770 / GTX 260
$200 - HD 4890
$240 - 2 x GTS 250
$310 - No winner (HD 5850 Honorable Mention)
$330 - 2 x GTX 260 / 2 x HD 5770
$400 - 2 x HD 4890
$410 - No winner (HD 5870 Honorable Mention)
$465 - No winner (GTX 295 Honorable Mention)
$625 - No winner (HD 5970 Honorable Mention)

However, the $150 - $190 category is very popular and all the cards are ridiculously overpriced. To my mind, the 5770 belongs at $130, 4870 at $150 and 260 at $155. I wouldn't buy any of them at today's prices,
January 10, 2010 8:33:49 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
This article provides a great breakdown and the conclusions are summarized below

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-310-5970,24...

Here's the "winners" from THG's latest (December) GFX Roundup
Best Graphics Cards For The Money: December '09

$50 - HD 4650
$65 - HD 4670 / 9600 GSO
$85 - 9600 GT
$95 - 9800 GT / HD 4830
$110 - GTS 250 512 MB
$120 - GTS 250 1 GB
$155 - HD 5770 / GTX 260
$200 - HD 4890
$240 - 2 x GTS 250
$310 - No winner (HD 5850 Honorable Mention)
$330 - 2 x GTX 260 / 2 x HD 5770
$400 - 2 x HD 4890
$410 - No winner (HD 5870 Honorable Mention)
$465 - No winner (GTX 295 Honorable Mention)
$625 - No winner (HD 5970 Honorable Mention)

However, the $150 - $190 category is very popular and all the cards are ridiculously overpriced. To my mind, the 5770 belongs at $130, 4870 at $150 and 260 at $155. I wouldn't buy any of them at today's prices,




Exelent , i im gonna buy one this ones 1.- i7 920 8mb @ 2.66, ati 5870, 4gb 1060hz (100 bucks more expensive) cus i have a discount
2.- i5 gtx 260 1.8gb and 6gb ram 1333mhz

i think option number 1 is better for gamming am i right ??????
a c 217 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 8:38:26 PM

The i7/5870 option does add about $400 worth of parts to it, but do you want the i7 over an i5? If not, it definately would be worth looking an i5/5870 option or one without a card.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 8:40:39 PM

An i5 system with no video card + the HD5850 I linked will definitely give you the best gaming performance for the money. If money isn't an issue at all then sure, get the i7/HD5870.
a c 217 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 8:41:57 PM

lexrg said:
Exelent , i im gonna buy one this ones 1.- i7 920 8mb @ 2.66, ati 5870, 4gb 1060hz (100 bucks more expensive) cus i have a discount
2.- i5 gtx 260 1.8gb and 6gb ram 1333mhz

i think option number 1 is better for gamming am i right ??????


Could you post a link? Something doesn't look right on those spec's. The i7 920 uses the x58 board, which uses tripple channel memory, so the memory should be 3gb, 6gb or 12gb most likely. Did you get 1 and 2 a little mixed up on the memory?
January 10, 2010 8:44:25 PM

nope its 4gb i swear
January 10, 2010 8:45:03 PM

its a dell xps 9000
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 8:47:54 PM

Yeah, that's mixed up. The i7 should have 3 or 6 gigs of ram for triple channel and the i5 system should have 4 as it is dual channel.
January 10, 2010 8:51:57 PM

jyjjy said:
Yeah, that's mixed up. The i7 should have 3 or 6 gigs of ram for triple channel and the i5 system should have 4 as it is dual channel.



First one : 6GB DDR3 SDRAM AT 1333MHz, i5-750(2.66GHz)
Second one : as i said whit 4gb ram


I dont now if its a dell problem or wthll
a c 106 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 8:55:23 PM

2053617,2,381770 said:
A GTX260 doesn't need more than 896mb.


Ummmmm, yes it does. It depends on the game you are playing and the resolution and settings you are playing it at. There are quite a few games that will use more than 1gig of memory......... no, I won't post links. Do your own homework.

To original poster. If installing W7 or Vista...... and you can't wait for nvidia to release it's DX11 version card, I would look into the 5850/5870. Me, I do have use for more than 1gig of memory on occasion and am holding out for a 2gig card for myself when they come.. ( if ).. I do have a 5850 and find no real problems with it 95% of the time.

In the DX11 benchmark demo ...... when enabled the tesselation does hit cards pretty good. I'd go right for the top end product.
January 10, 2010 9:45:24 PM

swifty_morgan said:
2053617,2,381770 said:
A GTX260 doesn't need more than 896mb.


Ummmmm, yes it does. It depends on the game you are playing and the resolution and settings you are playing it at. There are quite a few games that will use more than 1gig of memory......... no, I won't post links. Do your own homework.

To original poster. If installing W7 or Vista...... and you can't wait for nvidia to release it's DX11 version card, I would look into the 5850/5870. Me, I do have use for more than 1gig of memory on occasion and am holding out for a 2gig card for myself when they come.. ( if ).. I do have a 5850 and find no real problems with it 95% of the time.

In the DX11 benchmark demo ...... when enabled the tesselation does hit cards pretty good. I'd go right for the top end product.
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Thanks man, im gonna play Crysis, COD6 WOW and NFS, the new one. nothing else i think perhaps age of conan or aion so, i will take as a better option the i7 with the ati card, both of them have Windows 7 the only bad point in the i7 one is the ram but i think is ok cus i will only be runnung 1 game at a time and nothing else what do u think
a c 106 U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 10:23:10 PM

Is it worth the money....... I build my own machines so it's tough for me to answer. Is it worth it to you. I'd go for the i7 over the i5 any day.

I happen to like NFS Shift. if you run that make sure you get the patch or you'll have idiotic problems..... even with the glitches here and there it's the best racer going.

Crysis, on the 5850 plays very smooth but haven't tried it in the snowy/icy section of the game. Really tired of it by now if you know what I mean. This is one of those games I was talking about needing the extra memory. 1792 vs 896.... the game smoothed out and could play with higher settings and it was still smooth.

Go with the DX11 card/set up......... and if you choose the i7 build make sure you contact the first company and have them confirm by e-mail that you canceled your order before ordering the other one.
a b U Graphics card
January 10, 2010 10:30:01 PM

lexrg said:
i7 920 8mb 2.66 ati HD 5870 owns gtx 260 right ?


A 5870 is roughly equal to two 4870s, making it roughly equal to two GTX260s.
January 15, 2010 4:17:13 AM

I'd say if cost is an issue, going to a 1156 based core i5 750 is probably a good deal over the difference going to a 1366 based i7 (920), which is only about 20% faster in typical use. Where the $100 from the 5850 to a 5870 is a better boost for the cash. Building my son an i5 with a 5870 now. Had to drop the SSD from the plan, since the video card doesn't fit in his old case :( 

Here's the specs:
Case: COOLER MASTER ATCS 840
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA750
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3
CPU: Intel Core i5 750
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100281SR Radeon HD 5870
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB
DVDR: HP 1260i (SATA)

I had wanted to put a Corsair SSD in there with the HDD, but only have about $900 left budgeted (already bought the vidcard) and needed a bigger case than the one he had, 1/2" too small, and I don't want to cut the drive cage out.

Worth mentioning, if you plan on going crossfire, you will want to spring for the i7 on a 1366 based socket, that will raise your price about $300 (about 200 more for a good motherboard and about 100 more for the cpu). Any P55 board is unsuited to crossfire. Personally, I think that the 5870 is pretty well suited as-is, and if you *REALLY* want a boost, you can do a 5970 for $200 more, that will run about the level of 2x 5850's, and lower cost, with less issues. I've run multi-gpu setups in the past, and will generally have varying issues. With multi-gpu single slot boards, better to spend the money there. Also, I honestly don't feel it's worth nearly twice the price for 1366, if you run single slot video.

Doing the rest of the order from newegg in the morning when my check hits the bank. The vidcard is about $409, and the rest will be about $900 with shipping. so < $1350 total, and another $120 or so for an oem Win7 Home Prem x64.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 15, 2010 8:28:02 AM

tracker1 said:
I'd say if cost is an issue, going to a 1156 based core i5 750 is probably a good deal over the difference going to a 1366 based i7 (920), which is only about 20% faster in typical use.

More like 0 to 20% depending on the task.
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