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Anonymous
December 1, 2004 5:57:03 PM

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I have an Ati AIW9600xt which I purchased for a home theatre setup.

When I try to record from my Dishnet reciever - a window pops up after
an hour or so telling me I don't own digital rights to the broadcast -
and it shuts down my software.

Help, I understand it doesn't happen that way with Beyond Tv, or Sage
Tv.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Donna

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Anonymous
December 1, 2004 11:36:50 PM

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I would complain to ATI about this. As far as I know, there is no law on
the books preventing you from recording *anything* for personal use.

"Donna" <rahandsome14@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b9449b08.0412011457.18905775@posting.google.com...
>I have an Ati AIW9600xt which I purchased for a home theatre setup.
>
> When I try to record from my Dishnet reciever - a window pops up after
> an hour or so telling me I don't own digital rights to the broadcast -
> and it shuts down my software.
>
> Help, I understand it doesn't happen that way with Beyond Tv, or Sage
> Tv.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Donna
December 2, 2004 2:40:49 AM

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Replay TV doesn't care what you are recording, not so far anyway.
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Anonymous
December 2, 2004 4:59:35 AM

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>I would complain to ATI about this. As far as I know, there is no law on
>the books preventing you from recording *anything* for personal use.

Well, there's no law keeping the broadcasters and hardware designers from
implementing copy protection schemes either. So I doubt this is a point of
law.

- Mark
Anonymous
December 2, 2004 2:40:34 PM

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art@unknownrealm.org wrote:

> I would complain to ATI about this. As far as I know, there is no law on
> the books preventing you from recording *anything* for personal use.

There are a few schemes to prevent recording, THEY ARE NOT LAW however,

I have a Portable DVD player that warns that many DVD's are encoded with
MacroVision and any attempt to copy the DVD will be distorted as a
result... I also have DVD Shrink which says "Macrovision" and then laughs

One of those systems is "Serial Copy Management System", SCMS is
designed to prevent you from making a copy of a copy. SCMS (and it's
successor "Digital Rights Management System" is a way of encoding a
digital stream so that it says "Do not copy"

Many devices, including, it appears, the ATI card you have, are designed
to respect those management systems. This is a "Feature" not a bug, so
complaining won't help

The solution is to record an analog stream, You will loose some detail,
but you will be able to obtain a copy that way.... My ATI card is analog
inputs (RV or NTSC) only so I don't have that problem
Anonymous
December 2, 2004 4:57:36 PM

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John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<SaDrd.27073$Rf1.19427@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>...
> art@unknownrealm.org wrote:
>
> > I would complain to ATI about this. As far as I know, there is no law on
> > the books preventing you from recording *anything* for personal use.
>
> There are a few schemes to prevent recording, THEY ARE NOT LAW however,
>
> I have a Portable DVD player that warns that many DVD's are encoded with
> MacroVision and any attempt to copy the DVD will be distorted as a
> result... I also have DVD Shrink which says "Macrovision" and then laughs
>
> One of those systems is "Serial Copy Management System", SCMS is
> designed to prevent you from making a copy of a copy. SCMS (and it's
> successor "Digital Rights Management System" is a way of encoding a
> digital stream so that it says "Do not copy"
>
> Many devices, including, it appears, the ATI card you have, are designed
> to respect those management systems. This is a "Feature" not a bug, so
> complaining won't help
>
> The solution is to record an analog stream, You will loose some detail,
> but you will be able to obtain a copy that way.... My ATI card is analog
> inputs (RV or NTSC) only so I don't have that problem

My inputs are analog also.. svhs in - that's why I'm complaining.
Anonymous
December 3, 2004 8:40:12 AM

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rahandsome14@yahoo.com (Donna) wrote in news:b9449b08.0412011457.18905775
@posting.google.com:

> I have an Ati AIW9600xt which I purchased for a home theatre setup.
>
> When I try to record from my Dishnet reciever - a window pops up after
> an hour or so telling me I don't own digital rights to the broadcast -
> and it shuts down my software.
>
> Help, I understand it doesn't happen that way with Beyond Tv, or Sage
> Tv.
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Donna

Is it anything at all that you record? Even a public interest channel or a
shopping channel?

--
I wouldn't be caught dead with a necrophiliac.

Tyralak,
Supreme Commander Of The Imperial Romulan Warbird, Psionax

Official ASVS Token Trekkie
Anonymous
December 3, 2004 3:09:04 PM

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Donna wrote:

> My inputs are analog also.. svhs in - that's why I'm complaining.

DRM should not work on an Analog input. Wonder how they encoded it.

Oh well... That should be S-video by the way not S-VHS (Which is a tape
format)

Yes, if it's popping up digital rights warnings on an analog input I
would complain. Or at the very least try uninstalling and re-installing
the software, it should not do that.
December 3, 2004 3:09:05 PM

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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:09:04 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Donna wrote:
>
>> My inputs are analog also.. svhs in - that's why I'm complaining.
>
>DRM should not work on an Analog input. Wonder how they encoded it.
>
>Oh well... That should be S-video by the way not S-VHS (Which is a tape
>format)
>
>Yes, if it's popping up digital rights warnings on an analog input I
>would complain. Or at the very least try uninstalling and re-installing
>the software, it should not do that.

Those "protection" things ARE annoying. It should be illegal to have
equipment try to enforce them. Maybe it would be if we had a
government that cared about people at least much as about
corporations.
Anonymous
December 3, 2004 4:43:43 PM

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Tyralak <tyralak@SecureUndisclosedLocation.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95B3DB7698168tyralakSecureUndiscl@69.28.186.121>...
> rahandsome14@yahoo.com (Donna) wrote in news:b9449b08.0412011457.18905775
> @posting.google.com:
>
> > I have an Ati AIW9600xt which I purchased for a home theatre setup.
> >
> > When I try to record from my Dishnet reciever - a window pops up after
> > an hour or so telling me I don't own digital rights to the broadcast -
> > and it shuts down my software.
> >
> > Help, I understand it doesn't happen that way with Beyond Tv, or Sage
> > Tv.
> >
> > Any help greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Donna
>
> Is it anything at all that you record? Even a public interest channel or a
> shopping channel?


Mainly sports, I'm trying to record Figure Skating from ESPN, ESPN2,
and ABC, NBC!
If I record from my cable tv it's fine, just from my Dishnet which has
a gorgeous picture..
!