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January 18, 2010 4:05:08 AM

This is going to be my first build, I have done alot of research but I want some real opinions from some experienced users. I am upgrading most of my current set up with the exception of the hard drive and DVD drives. I am going to wait to upgrade my drive to sata III SSD drive once they are affordable. I want a system that is as future proof as possible I don't want to upgrade much more then a hard drive or a video card in about five years. I am not a gamer but do play some games. I heavy multi task and do solid modeling but am trying to exceed my needs so the computer will last a long time. My budget is as close 1000 or under as I can get.

CPU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
I like the 920 over the 860 due to its socket type and ability to use triple channel. I don't plan on over clocking till i need more power in 3 or so years.

MOBO
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
I want 6Gb/s headers for a future SSD and USB 3.0 for when it becomes main stream. I think this board will support all my hardware and won't hamper any upgrades or possible OCing.

GPU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
I don't need major power but i like the 3.2 open GL support and DX11. I run two 1920x1080 LG monitors.

RAM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
I don't think i need 6Gb but i want to get low latency triple channel and never have to upgrade.

PSU
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
I am not completely sure this is the best PSU but i want something i won't have to upgrade and won't break. I also want a quite computer.

CASE
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Cheap case but I want quite cool case, thought about the CM HAF932 but not sure the money is justified.

Any advice or comments are appreciated. The current cost is $1161.56 Canadian shipping and taxes in. I want to get this order off within in a week.

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January 18, 2010 4:25:18 AM

Well, to start, the 920 is an excellent choice for "future-proofing." If you ever wanted to, you could throw a high end CPU cooler on it for about 70-80 dollars and overclock it from 2.66, to high 3s. For now though, if you're not planning on overclocking, the stock cooler will do just fine. In addition, socket 1366 is a good choice for future-proofing, as opposed to the dying LGA 775.

Onto the mobo: another good choice. the X58 northbridge chipset is fairly nice and new, and will probably be here to stay for quite a few years. Also, I noticed this board has support for both Nvidia SLI and ATI Crossfire, so should the Fermi cards live up to all the hype Nvidia's giving them, you would be comfortable knowing that you have the option to use whichever brand proves better in the future.

GPU: DX11 is more important right now than Nvidia's PhysX, so an ATI card really is the only choice here. That card will work just fine for powering those two monitors, as long as you're not trying to do any really heavy gaming. If you suddenly get more into gaming, or find you need more graphics processing power in the future, your board DOES support CrossFire, so you could throw another 5770 in there and CrossFire the two cards.

RAM: Triple Channel DDR3, cant really go wrong.

PSU: Looks good, modular is always a plus. Antec is pretty decent PSU brand. If you're going to be moving the case a lot (LANS, idk) or connecting and disconnecting components, you might try looking at a modular PSU with the metal screw connectors, rather than the plastic clip kind. Not a huge deal, but just something to think about.

CASE: Not crazy about this choice. While the money might not be justified for a HAF 932, there are plenty of other better cases that can be had for 100 dollars or less. Looking at reviews of the case you selected, it seems a lot of people were complaining that it was very cramped inside, and installation was difficult because of it. Especially if this is your first build, I would suggest you spend a bit more on a larger, roomier case.

The Lancool K62 is a bargain for the price considering its feature set:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

so is the Antec 902:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and the CoolerMaster 690 is another good choice for a bit less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 18, 2010 4:52:24 AM

Thanks for taking the time to give me some good advice. I will consider the different cases. Are there any compatibility or power issues?
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January 18, 2010 5:11:35 AM

Everything looks good in terms of compatibility. Processor is compatible with motherboard, both of which are compatible with your RAM. Motherboard is standard ATX, so I'd be hard pressed to find a mid-tower that *doesnt* support it. Pretty much any mid-tower is going to support a standard ATX power supply too, which is what you've got. Anyway, your motherboards also got the required PCIe slot for your video card, with an extra PCIe slot for if/when you choose to CrossFire.

You shouldn't have any trouble with power either. The PSU you selected comes with a 6pin PCI connector and another 6+2 PCI conncetor (for cards with 8pin connectors). A Radeon 5770 is only going to require one 6pin PCI connector, and even if you chose to CrossFire it with another one down the raid, you could just use the 6pin part of your 6+2pin PCI connector.
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January 18, 2010 5:37:24 AM

Thanks again. Curious if there is any reason to go to the i7 860 or i5 750 for saving money or will the few hundred dollar difference be a moot issue as those chips become obsolete earlier? I am wondering what anyone has to say about this? Also is there any possible compatibility issues with a sata hard drive and my DVD drives.
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January 18, 2010 5:39:48 AM

Did you need an O/S?
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January 18, 2010 5:43:24 AM

I have a few OS's on me but I plan on getting 7, 64 bit, why?
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January 18, 2010 5:49:55 AM

Good,... first time builders often over look the O/S. Just thought I'd check. Its cheaper to by it as part of a system build than separately.
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January 18, 2010 2:41:13 PM

iHopeItWorks said:
Thanks again. Curious if there is any reason to go to the i7 860 or i5 750 for saving money or will the few hundred dollar difference be a moot issue as those chips become obsolete earlier? I am wondering what anyone has to say about this? Also is there any possible compatibility issues with a sata hard drive and my DVD drives.



The main reason for going with an i7 920 over an i7 860 or an i5 750 is the socket type. The i7 920, 950, and 975 are all socket 1366 processors, whereas the i7 860, all i5s and all i3s are socket 1156. Take a look at section 5 of the CPU Buyers guide sticky thread over in the CPUs and Components forum

CPU Buyer's Guide 2.0

As is said there, while socket 1156 is a good for performance and value now, many people question how long the socket will be around. Building a 1366 system is much more safe in terms of future-proofing, as this socket will likely be here to stay for quite a few years.

Assuming your disc drive and hard drive are both sata, no, there will be no compatibility issues with this. Your power supply will come with the required power connectors (and thensome) for both your hard drive and your disk drive, and your motherboard has more than enough internal sata connectors.

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January 20, 2010 2:41:45 PM

I did a lot of research on cases and psu's... and am very happy with what I chose for my just completed i7-860/LGA1156 build.

case:
Lancool K60. Love it! Fabulous airflow and pretty quiet. Tool-less, great cable mgnt. K60 is same as K62, w/o flashy blue lights, and is steel instead of plastic.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply. This PSU gives 33A on a "single 12v rail" design that is equal to as much power as many higher wattage rated PSU's. I can barely hear it running. "Voted 2009 Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC Magazine".
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

All the best.

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W [stock cooler]
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
(2) WD Caviar Black 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
BFG Tech BFGR79512GTOCE GeForce 7900GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Support Video Card - Retail
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
LIAN LI K60B Black CECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98 - Retail [NEC]
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-09 - Retail [MEDIATEK]
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
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January 20, 2010 3:35:34 PM

Um, if you don't plan on upgrading the CPU anytime soon, no point going x58. Go P55 save yourself some cash and use it towards a better GPU, especially if you wanna game with 2 monitors, a 5770 won't cut it.

Keep in mind next year BOTH 1156 and 1366 will be obsolete with 22nm sockets. Also, it would be highly unlike Intel not to make Sandy bridge CPU's for 1156. They'll probably do 1366 i9 end of this year, 1166 something early next, and 22nm later in the year.


Case
Antec 300 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
G SKill Eco 7-8-7-24 4gb $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're uncomfortable going into bios to adjust voltages use these. If not, save yourself $5 w/ ripjaws.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO
Asus P7P55D-E LGA 1156 $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want to xfire down the road, grab the $189.99 version which supports xfire.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
OCZ 700w $79.99 w/ $25 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
i7-860 $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$30 cheaper than the 920 yet beats it hands down in any benchmark...

GPU
5850 $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $994.94 before $25 MIR and shipping which should cancel out.
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January 22, 2010 3:53:58 AM

Thanks for the input, actually switched to that case before reading your post. I don't game much so i am happy with the GPU. I decided to take the 920 route as i may overclock in the distant future. Will try to post my build once its delivered and final.

Thanks for everyone's input.
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January 22, 2010 3:57:29 AM

duppster said:
I did a lot of research on cases and psu's... and am very happy with what I chose for my just completed i7-860/LGA1156 build.

case:
Lancool K60. Love it! Fabulous airflow and pretty quiet. Tool-less, great cable mgnt. K60 is same as K62, w/o flashy blue lights, and is steel instead of plastic.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply. This PSU gives 33A on a "single 12v rail" design that is equal to as much power as many higher wattage rated PSU's. I can barely hear it running. "Voted 2009 Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC Magazine".
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

All the best.

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W [stock cooler]
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
(2) WD Caviar Black 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
BFG Tech BFGR79512GTOCE GeForce 7900GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Support Video Card - Retail
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
LIAN LI K60B Black CECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98 - Retail [NEC]
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-09 - Retail [MEDIATEK]
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply


Already made my purchase before seeing your post, damn. I like the look of the psu, if i don't like mine I will definetly to your suggestion. Thanks for the advice.
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January 25, 2010 8:10:30 PM

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