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New build gpu at jan 2010 prices ??

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January 13, 2010 4:00:22 AM

Have built a I7-920, P6T,6gig ram, caviar black HD, 850 cosair psu

I will be running 1920x1080 on 23" lcd

might toy with some first person games this year but mostly in past have done online ones.

I am lost as to cost/benefit for cards. The prices seem to be changing daily.

these are cards posts say I should look at for that resolution.

tonights prices
5770 @ $180
4890 @ $210
5850 @ $300
nvidia gxt260 @ $220

at that resolution should i just get the cheapest one the 5770 and when prices come down in summer get a faster card?
reviews rate the 5770 as only good at that resolution and about same or worse as 4870 but can be overclocked close to 4890 I read.

or spend the extra $100 for a 5850 which is rated as excellent for that resolution?

or does this really matter for future online games? I do recall vanguard crashing everyones computer due to graphics.

I am uncertain what to do.

I can not wait on nvidia possible release in 2nd qtr.

any advice?
a c 189 U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 4:07:24 AM

I think if u have the money then take HD5850 right now, and u can add another 5850 later when the price goes down...
The rest of your system is good... :) 
Well, that just me, anyone?
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January 13, 2010 4:15:56 AM

well for online games any one of those cards will do more than fine with that resolution and cpu.

I am using a GTS 250 and a much weaker CPU, and a screen with the same resolution, and it is running fine.

I would not go for the older ATI, 4950, as the new ones all have native support for DX11.

The GTX260 with that cpu will run crysis maxed out with 4x AA and be playable with good framerates, and consider that the most popular online games are games like COD and WoW etc. the true multiplayer games are not as demanding as many singleplayer games. any one of those cards will max out any current multiplayer games and will achieve very good framerates. (50 +)

it all comes down to how much money you wish to spend.

I would reccomend the 5770 or GTX260. both perform about equal in 3dmark vantage, but it 3dmark 06 the GTX260 stands out by about 1000 points

http://www.*****/news/video/ati-radeon-hd-5770-performance-benchmarks-leaked/

dont worry about the games crashing due to graphics, with any card your rig will be more than powerful enough

If you want to spend the extra 40 $ for 1000 more points in 3dmark 06 then go for the GTX260, otherwise just go for the 5770.

that helpful enough?
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January 13, 2010 7:18:10 AM

I agree with wa1 and plan on doing the same thing myself as soon as I get the funds. DX11 is worth it in my opinion and will add longevity to your system. Check out these vids on what it has to offer...



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a c 125 U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 8:22:02 AM

N.Broekhuijsen said:
well for online games any one of those cards will do more than fine with that resolution and cpu.

I am using a GTS 250 and a much weaker CPU, and a screen with the same resolution, and it is running fine.

I would not go for the older ATI, 4950, as the new ones all have native support for DX11.

The GTX260 with that cpu will run crysis maxed out with 4x AA and be playable with good framerates, and consider that the most popular online games are games like COD and WoW etc. the true multiplayer games are not as demanding as many singleplayer games. any one of those cards will max out any current multiplayer games and will achieve very good framerates. (50 +)

it all comes down to how much money you wish to spend.

I would reccomend the 5770 or GTX260. both perform about equal in 3dmark vantage, but it 3dmark 06 the GTX260 stands out by about 1000 points

http://www.*****/news/video/ati-radeon-hd-5770-performance-benchmarks-leaked/

dont worry about the games crashing due to graphics, with any card your rig will be more than powerful enough

If you want to spend the extra 40 $ for 1000 more points in 3dmark 06 then go for the GTX260, otherwise just go for the 5770.

that helpful enough?


What are you smoking?

Crysis on max settings @1920 x 1080 with 4xAA with a GTX260 and Ci7 hahahahaa no chance

@OP if your not bothered about DX11 then go with the HD4890 as it performs better than a GTX260 for $10 less

If you want DX11 then I'd highly recommend the HD5850 for your resolution.
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 8:38:51 AM

Count my vote for the HD5850.
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 11:41:47 AM

crysis or not, either way it's only for multiplayer games, which are never so demanding
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January 13, 2010 11:50:16 AM

Buy the 5770 then buy another one later if needed. Crossfire 5770's are generally quicker than a 5870 by a small amount.
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 3:34:00 PM

Quote:
Buy the 5770 then buy another one later if needed. Crossfire 5770's are generally quicker than a 5870 by a small amount.


thank you!!!

somebody understands my point of view!
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a c 147 U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 4:44:24 PM

+1 more for the 5850. It really gives you the all around best performance for your money $300 gets you alot of GPU power to run that display. If you want to try your hand at overclocking you can get the 5850 to run at 5870 speeds as well.
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January 13, 2010 4:53:13 PM

Me Too, Count my vote for the HD5850
PS:Look for XFX 5850 For Doublelife Warranty
Good luck..
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a c 217 U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 5:28:12 PM

Seeing as you have a i7 system. I find it hard to recommend lower than a 5850. Even a 5870 with an i7 is almost always GPU bound, but you probably will end up using it's power down the road by adding a 2nd one in the future.

If you start out with a 5770, then add one later, it really feels like you've wasted all that i7's power. Even if you start with them in CF.

But if you start with the 5850, and later add a 2nd one later, now the system can really spread it's wings and perform to it's true potential.

Going the cheap route just feels wrong, because it then means you wasted money on the i7, unless you have other purposes it's being used for.
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a c 230 U Graphics card
January 13, 2010 5:45:31 PM

The 5770, 4870 and GTX 260 are all in the same category but the 260 and 4870 outperform the 5770 by about 10%. None of those cards can do DX11. Since the 5770 was introduced, it has pushe dup the price of the 4870 and 260 pushing both outta the price / performance category they once shared. Yes, I know what the label says and all but, if ya read the Dirt 2 article on the THG Home page, you will see that the min. frame rate of the 5770 at your resolution is below 30 fps. And that's w/ a game with minimal incorporation of DX11 technology and which the authors state is barely distinguishable from DX11 to DX9.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dirt-2-performance-...

Once we see heavy incorporation of DX11 features in games, the load is going to be more than the 5770 can handle. At your stated resolution, the entry point for DX11 must be considered as the 58xx series.

Check the RoundUp article here, see what fits ya budget and go with it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,...
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January 13, 2010 7:26:39 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
The 5770, 4870 and GTX 260 are all in the same category but the 260 and 4870 outperform the 5770 by about 10%. None of those cards can do DX11. Since the 5770 was introduced, it has pushe dup the price of the 4870 and 260 pushing both outta the price / performance category they once shared. Yes, I know what the label says and all but, if ya read the Dirt 2 article on the THG Home page, you will see that the min. frame rate of the 5770 at your resolution is below 30 fps. And that's w/ a game with minimal incorporation of DX11 technology and which the authors state is barely distinguishable from DX11 to DX9.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dirt-2-performance-...

Once we see heavy incorporation of DX11 features in games, the load is going to be more than the 5770 can handle. At your stated resolution, the entry point for DX11 must be considered as the 58xx series.

Check the RoundUp article here, see what fits ya budget and go with it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,...


Actually, from what I've gathered, and seen in another game that added DX11 features, most of the new directX 11 features are performance increases. Tessellation, is the exception, which happens to be one of the few features Dirt 2 added.

Mostly, directX 11 will improve performance, unless the dev's go crazy with tessellation.

Check out these comparisons: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articles.php?articleid=14...
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January 13, 2010 9:36:12 PM

I will get the 5850

its only $70 to $80 more then the 5770 right now on sale.

Thats not alot more.


thx for the advice. I see the point, why have an i7 system and get a low end gpu.

I do other then play games, so needed the power of an i7. nice for what games i will do thou.

thx again.

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