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I have a 4870 and want to upgrade, I have considered 4870 tri-fire however it is equal performance to a 5870 but £30/$50 cheaper (also if i get the 5870 I will probably get water cooling for my CPU), so I am considering a 5970 however the cost of that is £200/$350 more! So would it be worth getting a 5970 or just stick with a 5870?

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CCowan

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The HD5870 is a wonderful card and would serve you well for the next 2 years or more easily. HD5970 is an overkill for any game except Crysis. Go for it if you have a huge screen. Otherwise HD5870 is good enough.
Also if you get a HD5870 liquid cooling is not required as the card consumes less heat and generates very low heat!


Message edited by hell_storm2004 on 01-13-2010 at 11:37:03 AM
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Well I am only going to have overclocking on the CPU so i can over clock it loads, I am hoping it will go upto 4.5 or so GHz...

My Screen is 24" @ 1920x1080, Is that huge, i have a bad sense of comparison. I think i will stick with the 5870

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CCowan

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I meant 27 inch or a 30 inch. HD5870 would eat up any game at that resolution. HD5970 is too costly and also too big. It may not even fit in your case for all you know!

Which CPU do you have?

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i7 920. although powerful, I can get more out of it. It will fit in my case but it is abit silly to get for now.

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i7 920 can run a HD5870 smoothly without any glitches and you don't need to get OC it any way!

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Yea...
Hd 5870 will suit you better than HD5970.

Hd 4870 tri-fire might be cheaper but think about the power consumption and heat dissipation.

And HD5870 takes much less electricity at idle.


You won't need a 4.5Ghz OC for a i7 920.
Even a 3.5Ghz will be more than enough...

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5870 only gives 35fps at crysis meawhile 5970gives 50!

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For the 4870 tri-fire I need a new PSU which is £120/$160 that is why it is more expensive than the 5870

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Yea, the only two reasons that I bought the 5970 was for crysis ( I know it sounds stu pid 600$US for crysis lol but with 4xAA its amazing) and that it was even 30$ cheaper than 2x5850 in my case. Here, the 5970 was only 230$Can more than the 5870, YES in canada they try to sell the 5870 for 499$ when its in stock!!!! Get the 5870 if you dont need AA in Crysis.


Message edited by Anonymous on 01-15-2010 at 03:56:52 AM
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With the 5870 the OP can get 45 frames at 2xAA (1920x1200)...

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If you're going to play Crysis, make ABSOLUTELY SURE, you download the ULTRA HIGH graphics mod.

Compared to Ultra High settings, the default "very high" settings is worlds apart.

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If you're going to play Crysis, make ABSOLUTELY SURE, you download the ULTRA HIGH graphics mod.

Compared to Ultra High settings, the default "very high" settings is worlds apart.



Out of curiosity how much more stressful is it compared to the default Very High?

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Out of curiosity how much more stressful is it compared to the default Very High?



There are many variations of "Ultra High" - all of them better looking than Very High.

Ultra High "lite" is equal to VH in terms of stressfulness, with little to no additional performance hit

Ultra High "regular" which is what I used to use in my dual 9800GTX SLi rig @ 1280x1024, is a fair bit more stressful,
maybe equal to adding between 2x to 4x AA

"Ultra" Ultra High - which is an insane setting that raped any GPU setting at the time I downloaded it (late 2008, early 2009),
causes a large performance hit, sort of like going from High to Very High, or adding 4x between 6x AA
This setting also made some parts of the game look like pictures rendered from the Cryengine2 - aka holy frekin ballz amazing...

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Bluescreendeath wrote :

There are many variations of "Ultra High" - all of them better looking than Very High.

Ultra High "lite" is equal to VH in terms of stressfulness, with little to no additional performance hit

Ultra High "regular" which is what I used to use in my dual 9800GTX SLi rig @ 1280x1024, is a fair bit more stressful,
maybe equal to adding between 2x to 4x AA

"Ultra" Ultra High - which is an insane setting that raped any GPU setting at the time I downloaded it (late 2008, early 2009),
causes a large performance hit, sort of like going from High to Very High, or adding 4x between 6x AA
This setting also made some parts of the game look like pictures rendered from the Cryengine2 - aka holy frekin ballz amazing...



Are those mods available for Crysis Warhead as well?

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edeawillrule wrote :

Are those mods available for Crysis Warhead as well?



Yep. The people who made it for Crysis tweaked it for Warhead as well.

The UltraHigh gfx mods are mostly at the crymod website, some at moddb, some elsewhere


http://www.google.com/search?ie=UT [...] ultra+high

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And most importantly do any of them fix the fire? Crysis had some of the ugliest fire (and I actually mean fire not explosions) I've ever seen.

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Bluescreendeath wrote :

Yep. The people who made it for Crysis tweaked it for Warhead as well.

The UltraHigh gfx mods are mostly at the crymod website, some at moddb, some elsewhere


http://www.google.com/search?ie=UT [...] ultra+high



Much thanks :]

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http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/medium/2007/11/Crysis_Ultra_neu_03.jpg

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edeawillrule wrote :

WOW! That really is a big difference! :ouch:



Yep. :D When I first downloaded the mod, I spent hours climbing on top of mountains and cliffs just to stare at and admire the scenery...

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Bluescreendeath wrote :

Yep. :D When I first downloaded the mod, I spent hours climbing on top of mountains and cliffs just to stare at and admire the scenery...



I'm gonna do the same thing now :D
Like I said a minute ago though does it get rid of the fugly 2d fire animation and replace it with something better? Just so I don't get my hopes up XD

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lol, not sure about the fire. It mainly tweaks lighting effects and shadows to make everything affected by HDR/light. Also download the advanced AI mod...no more stupid enemy soldiers standing in the open waiting to die. :D

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Well Crysis is a great game (don't get me wrong here but it is a GPU heavy game isn't it) but my 4870 runs it @1920x1080 with textures on minimum no AA at about 60 fps, and I expect the 5870 will be a bit better but I will mainly be playing COD6 and COD7 when it comes out.

It is worth the 5970? or will the 5870 run COD in top settings well?

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i run CoD6 with a GTX260 and i get over 90 frames with 4xAA, so yes the 5870 is more than enough....

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Lmao if you dont play crysis , even one 5870 is overkill.

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ccowan wrote :

Well Crysis is a great game (don't get me wrong here but it is a GPU heavy game isn't it) but my 4870 runs it @1920x1080 with textures on minimum no AA at about 60 fps, and I expect the 5870 will be a bit better but I will mainly be playing COD6 and COD7 when it comes out.

It is worth the 5970? or will the 5870 run COD in top settings well?



60fps? :o Are you running it on low?

If you're not maxing out Crysis' graphics, you're wasting its potential IMO. :lol:

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Yea at least raise all the settings to Enthusiast/Ultra High with no xAA.... Playing on Medium is like playing the game with a crapy video card....

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Enthusiast on CrysisWarhead is Very High. You'll need the UltraHigh mods to unlock settings better than VH. :D

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