9800 GTS vs GTX 260

livelykyle

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I have a question to why my GTX 260 is getting pooped on by a 9800 gts a friend of mine has, our systems are nearly the same. Given that I have more ram then he, and he has a 1200watt PSU over my 530 watt PSU. The stats are the same, different hardware of course. Useing Resident Evil 6 Benchmark he recives about 45-50 fps, with the same settings (Full Everything) I am getting only 25-30fps. Any sugesions?

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EVGA GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 / CORSAIR XMS2 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core / ASUS M3A78-EM AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard / RAIDMAX HYBRID 530W 12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready PSU
 

kylelively

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The CPU runs at about 60-70%, like I said my friend has the same CPU. His isnt bottlenecking. Now like in wow I get like 14fps in one of the citys because my CPU is at 98-100. Thats bottlenecking.
 

tuesday0180

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He's not talking about bottle necks. He wants to know why he is getting slower performance than his friend who has similar system settings.

Anyways, I also have a GTX 260 216shader. I'm running a E5200 dual core 2.5gig 4gigs of ram. In resident evil 5 1680x1050 max settings I reach 40-50 FPS on the tests. There must be something wrong with your system. I don't know what though.


Is that AMD of yours a dual core? If it is, then you should get better performance than me because I'm only 2.5gig dual core.
 

The two chips you are comparing have an entirely different architecture and cannot meaningfully be compared by clock speed. Your 2.5 ghz processor is actually better than his 3 ghz.
BTW you should overclock that E5200. It overclocks very well and should easily get up to 3.3-3.5ghz just on the stock cooler. Close to 4 ghz with a good fan/heatsink.
 

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Aww i see. I would love to overclock, but my elite group motherboard doesn't allow it.

Anyways I still think he should get better frames in his resident evil game. My FPS jumped significantly when I went from a 9500gt to a 260gtx 216shader. I think the game is very graphic card intensive.
 

wh3resmycar

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an x2 6000+ would be a pain to overclock, although i see no reason how a 3.0ghz am2 would bottleneck a gtx260.

i would assume you failed to install (this happens all the time) "AMD DUAL CORE OPTIMIZER", which is pretty much essential to having an old athlon x2.

check your heat levels as well as the old x2 6000+ was still based on a 90nm process (if i remember correctly).





you shouldve went with a similarly priced msi. 3.5ghz in a snap.
 
From Tomshardware's Building a Balanced PC part 1, it showed that Nvidia cards are more CPU dependent than ATI cards, and that even a P2D E6300 @ 2.8GHz bottlenecked a GTX260 in some games.

A PentiumDualCore E6300 is far superior to a E5300,
A stock P2D E5300 equals a X2 7850,
and a x2 7850 @ 2.8GHz is much better than a x2 6000 @ 3.0GHz

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=28&p2=90


But overall, your bottleneck shouldn't be that bad. So there must be something else involved...

Did you have an ATI card before? Driver conflicts?
 

kylelively

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No I did not.
 

It isn't. The two processors are about equal. In fact all of the processors he mentioned are pretty close together in terms of gaming performance.
 




That was bad wording on my part. I was saying the E6300 is better than either of the AMD cpus, and even the E6300 is somewhat bottlenecking the GTX260.
 

SPQR

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well as people said before:
Make sure onboard graphics are disabled and install AMD's dual core optimizer
If nothing changes, try switching Graphics Cards with your friend, maybe its a faulty card afterall

Btw there is no 9800GTS its either a GT or a GTX, or maybe even a GTX+ (aka GTS 250) :pt1cable:
 

kylelively

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I have not yet turned off the on board graphics. Im not sure how to for that matter. I will also have to install AMD's Dual-core optimizer. I will get back when I have done so.

"Btw there is no 9800GTS its either a GT or a GTX, or maybe even a GTX+ (aka GTS 250)" In his nvida, and system information ,and along with the program Sandra adress his card as a 9800 gts. Maybe there is a glitch or something?, but three different resources wouldent be wrong I would assume.

There is a 8800gts, but his resources still rep a 9800gts.
 

kylelively

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Ehh, your right. In any matter im going to try and DL AMD's Dual-core optimizer, along with disableing the on board graphics first before buying a new processor. Thanks for all the help!
 

kylelively

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Vertical Sync is off.
I do have Windows 7 installed.

I have three GB of ram because back when I wasent very computer savy I bought a 2GB stick from best buy to boost my old computers performance. Then about a year later I bought 2x2GB sticks from newegg.com and put those in the dual channel and then threw the old one in there aswell.
 

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Instead of testing with other CPUs, you should try another GPU (your friends 9800GT) to eliminate the possibility of your GTX260 being faulty

Also, ok this might seem stupid, but i assume your Pci-e is set to X16 right ?
 

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