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January 14, 2010 6:36:23 PM

I currently ordered 9800GT this one : http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/?sku=224342&kw=asus%209800
Sadly I ordered all new parts for a new computer but this part is back ordered and i have a choice to just wait, or I'll just pick something else. (from www.bestdirect.ca)
I built a good pc in my eyes for under 800$ (mind you canadian)
I game but not a serious gamer, honestly I play Sims 3 and Aion.
But I'm a design student and I'm on adobe programs a lot. (if that even matters)

POINT being, should I leave it be or get another GPU for under $130(or around)?

thanks
fuufuu

im a lady...not a he.

my specs are:
ASUS P7P55D
Intel Core i5 750
1TB SATA
Corsair XMS3 4GB
Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 600W
ASUS GeForce 9800GT (600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E VGA HDMI DVI Video Card) <-- dont know if that matters

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January 14, 2010 7:05:08 PM

Yea, I researched around everything in my price range even higher, the 9800GT seem like the best deal for me. Thank you :) 
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a c 148 U Graphics card
January 14, 2010 7:20:58 PM

What resolution are you playing at?

Honestly at that price I'd go for a GTS250 or an HD5750. They bot give you a bit more performance than your selection.
These are off the CA newegg site.
EVA GTS250 $130 after $5MIR: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Sapphire 5750 $140: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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a c 148 U Graphics card
January 14, 2010 7:31:36 PM

^ They are simply suggestions. Since he said around $130CAD I am simply offering my input of the cards for that price both of which give a significant performance improvement over a 9800GT. If you are going to spec the money you are going to want all your options on the table.
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January 14, 2010 7:32:35 PM

I know it doesn't take much to run the SIMS, but not sure what AION is. but I'm just offering the best bang you can get for what you are willing to spend.
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January 15, 2010 2:11:03 AM

lol i added my specs. Right now on my pc (old one) is a 7800GT and a P4 3.2ghz it works great with everything... sims mostly everything is at medium and res at 1280x1024 but this comp is wigging out and CS4 is hating me lol
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January 15, 2010 6:00:51 AM

For the price of around $100 to $110, getting a GTS250 (also known as a 9800GTX) or a 4850 would be your best option. Both perform about 20% better than a 9800GT.

Newegg.com has graphics card and is usually cheaper than best buy.
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January 15, 2010 7:38:37 AM

lol if that is all u play id stick to your budget and stay with the 9800 gt but most people here are gamers i think and so its hard for them to pass up a better 1 for a little more money especially to future proof themselves. You should take into account though the changing market in regards to DX it might be worth paying the little bit more for that it all depends how much you like gaming.
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January 15, 2010 7:45:35 AM

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dont listen to them. 9800GT is perfect for you and it does not run @ 95C ROFL!! and! you can play many games max at 1680x1050 wihtout AA though. Not all but sims you can max out with 8xAA 1680x1050 and all that.


I am getting sick of this guy's trolling. How can he say a thing like that to someone with more experience. I know he is a kid and someone said we should give him a break, but there might be people there who will base their purchases on his stupid advice and that is not something to ignore.
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January 15, 2010 9:41:57 AM

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dude, summin most have been wrong with your 9800GT seriously. 95c thats way to high for a card like that. I think. Its not even a high end card and! My HD 4650 could run some games @ 1680x1050 max settings no AA. And I run all games like that with my GT 230 which is a rebranded 9800GT... So 9800GT should handle that.


For 130$ others have way better solutions and you say 'Don't listen to them... listen to me I'm a 15 year old who knows better than these guys with their whole useless experience'
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January 15, 2010 9:44:13 AM

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if your 15 too why do you call me a kid then??


I'm not 15 dude...forget it, I won't bother explaining my post. Google: sarcasm.
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a c 177 U Graphics card
January 15, 2010 10:55:56 AM

If I were the OP I'd go back and read Jay2Talls first post again. If the budget is $130, don't be afraid to spend it. The GTS250/5750/4850 would be better cards then the 9800GT. We still don't know the OPs resolution, but I believe Aion can be a taxing game from what I remember. If you want to max it out at 1680x1050 including AA, I don't think a 9800GT will cut it. And seeing as you play at least one RPG, there might be others coming that you want to play that will be even more demanding.

I doubt the GT 230 is a 9800GT. Assuming the GT 240 is a better card then the GT 230, its not.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 9800GT has 112SP, while the GT 240 has only 96. This puts it more like a 9600GSO, and the GT 230 is probably weaker then that.
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a c 148 U Graphics card
January 15, 2010 11:30:29 AM

4745454b said:
If the budget is $130, don't be afraid to spend it.

EXACTLY. If you spend $20 extra bucks to get 20% better performance, I think that's not such a bad deal.
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January 15, 2010 2:48:13 PM

thank you guys >_< im gonna change it to the 250 GTS and to clear things up i play at 1280x1024, next question is does it make a massive difference, 512mb to a 1gb?
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a c 148 U Graphics card
January 15, 2010 2:56:56 PM

Usually more memory is more of a benefit at higher resolutions. Sometimes AA benefits as well. If it is only a few bucks difference, I'd go for the 1GB version, but if it's a deal breaker, don't worry about it. You might see a frame or two improvement, but it is mostly defendant on the game.
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January 15, 2010 2:58:59 PM

fuufuu said:
thank you guys >_< im gonna change it to the 250 GTS and to clear things up i play at 1280x1024, next question is does it make a massive difference, 512mb to a 1gb?


I have only one thing to say about Okini. He is 15 and is considered a troll.
Now regarding the others that replied to you, you can see from their sound advice their level of expertise.
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January 15, 2010 3:14:58 PM

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what I said was true FFS!


You just need to calm down a little, and then start every one of your posts with:

"I haven't been doing this very long, but its my personal opinion that..."
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January 15, 2010 3:16:37 PM

deadlockedworld said:
You just need to calm down a little, and then start every one of your posts with:

"I haven't been doing this very long, but its my personal opinion that..."


Nice one.
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January 15, 2010 3:17:41 PM

lol the price diff is 12$ gonna get the 1gb anyhow, sims 3 has ALOT of textures and things loading at all times, im sure ill benefit from it

still for a 15 year old he's still pretty bright, but he might learn in the RL, smart talking doesnt take you anywhere >_< none the less, thank you still okini55 and everyone :) 
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January 15, 2010 3:19:18 PM

fuufuu said:
lol the price diff is 12$ gonna get the 1gb anyhow, sims 3 has ALOT of textures and things loading at all times, im sure ill benefit from it

still for a 15 year old he's still pretty bright, but he might learn in the RL, smart talking doesnt take you anywhere >_< none the less, thank you still okini55 and everyone :) 


I hope you get the 250, because if you get the 9800GT you will just waste money.
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January 15, 2010 3:51:23 PM

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dude, summin most have been wrong with your 9800GT seriously. 95c thats way to high for a card like that. I think. Its not even a high end card and! My HD 4650 could run some games @ 1680x1050 max settings no AA. And I run all games like that with my GT 230 which is a rebranded 9800GT... So 9800GT should handle that.


A GT230 is weaker than a 9600GT.

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nope. Go for the cheapest one. 1 GB will only give a LIL bit more diffrence when gaming @ higher than 1680x1050. Cos GTS 250 aint ment to play games at 1920x1080 anyway. So yeah. Go for the cheapest and if they are the same price go for 1GB obviously.


1GB on a 9800GT is a waste of memory. Even a GTS250 or 4850 can't use all that RAM.
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January 15, 2010 3:54:37 PM

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Yeah. But not on GTS 250 or HD 4850. They cant use 1GB. But they can use more than 512mb...


yaw, better 512mb on a GTS250 than 1GB of a 9800GT.
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January 15, 2010 3:56:31 PM

fuufuu said:
lol the price diff is 12$ gonna get the 1gb anyhow, sims 3 has ALOT of textures and things loading at all times, im sure ill benefit from it still for a 15 year old he's still pretty bright, but he might learn in the RL, smart talking doesnt take you anywhere >_< none the less, thank you still okini55 and everyone :) 


aye.

Who's that actress in your avatar? Reminds me of a cross between Zooey Deschanel and that staring-at-camera girl on youtube. :pt1cable:  :D 
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January 15, 2010 4:03:14 PM

@Bluescreendeath... thats me

Well i just got off the phone, i got the 250 GTs @ 1gb, i figured 12$ im not losing anything, if i need the 1gb its there :)  if not... its still there lol

once again THANK YOU everyone :) 

hopefully this thread can be helpful for someone else.
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January 15, 2010 4:57:39 PM

fuufuu said:

Well i just got off the phone, i got the 250 GTs @ 1gb, i figured 12$ im not losing anything, if i need the 1gb its there :)  if not... its still there lol
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You will be happy with it. The gts250 is a shrunken down version of the 9800GTX+ essentially. It will go the distance longer than a 9800GT would


Bluescreendeath said:

Who's that actress in your avatar?

fuufuu said:
@Bluescreendeath... thats me

You may have just made her day. ;) 
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January 15, 2010 5:17:16 PM

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Bluescreendeath wrote : Who's that actress in your avatar?


fuufuu said:
@Bluescreendeath... thats me


LOL, yes-- best answer him.
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a c 148 U Graphics card
January 15, 2010 5:25:26 PM

Haha, no best answer is her. How do you really know it's her :D  you don't. Bluescreendeath can only hope :sarcastic: 
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January 16, 2010 4:08:53 AM

lmao so sad news he called me while i was at work and said the orginal one i ordered left the warehouse in the morning.
heartbroken i am :( 

and it is really me >_< i get compared alot to Leah dizon, ( at anime/game conventions) thou im fully Portuguese, go figure
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January 16, 2010 6:33:27 AM

fuufuu said:
@Bluescreendeath... thats me

:hello: 
jay2tall said:

You may have just made her day. ;) 

:sweat: 
jay2tall said:
Haha, no best answer is her. How do you really know it's her :D  you don't. Bluescreendeath can only hope :sarcastic: 

:cry: 
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January 16, 2010 6:37:04 AM

fuufuu said:

and it is really me >_< i get compared alot to Leah dizon, ( at anime/game conventions)

Aye, your look somewhat...East Asian? or Eurasian...
fuufuu said:

thou im fully Portuguese, go figure

Indeed... :whistle: 
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a c 148 U Graphics card
January 16, 2010 1:26:31 PM

^cute girls make boys use more smileys... apparently. haha
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January 16, 2010 1:30:27 PM

fuufuu said:
lmao so sad news he called me while i was at work and said the orginal one i ordered left the warehouse in the morning.
heartbroken i am :( 

Don't sweat it to much. If you can return it and really want the other go for it. If not, the 9800GT will still work for you fine. I was just trying to "optimize" your spending.
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January 16, 2010 2:42:52 PM

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btw! IF you can find this card. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gCQXjWwMPk&feature=rela.... Go for that one instead. It should cost about the same as 9800GT I think.

One of the first things he says is "It's a little bit slower than the 8800GT". The 9800GT is the 8800GT just a smaller chip. Why would she even entertain that?
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January 16, 2010 2:56:25 PM

OK, I read this whole thread. Since it was never verified, I have a 8600 gt(little brother to original 9800gt) G84 80nm and it does run up to 100c in 3d/ furmark. It idles at 67c. This 2nd rig is in the same room as my new rig with a 4770. It idles at 44c and NEVER goes over 55c.
Its just the nature of those chip/die sizes+technology.
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