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January 21, 2010 2:31:42 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 2 weeks
BUDGET RANGE: 1800-2200
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: (keyboard, speakers, OS)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, ncix.com
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA
PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel CPU, Asus mobo, 22"-24" LCD and full tower case
OVERCLOCKING: No
CROSSFIRE: On the future
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080
ADDITIONAL COMMENT: i build this pc but in not very sure, i would like that you help me guys

-PSU Corsair TX950W
-Chassis (i dont know i need excellent cooling for CPU-GPU-Memory-Motherboard-Hard Drives)
-CPU Intel® Core™ i7 960 (3.2GHz, 8MB Cache)
- Graphics Card SAPPHIRE HD5970 2GB GDDR5 PCIE (OC Edition)
- Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium
-Memory 12GB Triple-channel Corsair Dominator: 6 x 2048MB DDR3 1800Mhz
-1SSD 128GB
-2 HDD 2TB Sata II 32mb cache (Total 4TB)
-Blu-ray reader and cd/dvd burner
-Media card reader
-PCI-E Wlan card with external antenna
-Logitech Performance Mouse MX

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January 21, 2010 2:42:53 PM

Lot's of changes I'd recommend.

Knock Down PSU to something reasonable.
Get an i5-750 instead
Get a cheaper mobo w/ USB 3.0/SATA 6.0
Don't get 2 TB HD's, they're expensive and have reliability issues.

Yea, I'll throw something together in a few.
January 21, 2010 2:56:12 PM

Here's what I'd build (I'm sure banthracis' will be similar):

CPU: i5-750 $200
Mobo: Asus P7P55D-E Pro $190
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $115
HDD: 2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $180. If you really need 2 TB of storage right now.
SSD: No idea on the actual model, 128 GB will be about $400
PSU: Cosair 750W $105 after rebate
GPU: HD 5970 $650
Optical: Lite-On 4x BluRay reader + cheap SATA DVD burner $97
Case: HAF 922 $110

Total: $1,937, without combos (not sure if there are any). Leaves plenty of room for any extras you need (wireless card, mouse, monitor). I would either get a smaller SSD (or leave it out entirely) and then you might be able to get the i7-920, but the i5-750 is just as good.
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January 21, 2010 3:01:12 PM

Another thing to note is that unless you are a very heavy CS4 and Auto Cad user you have no need for 12gb of RAM... For gaming even 6gb is huge overkill but if you go socket 1366 it's best to get 6gb
January 21, 2010 3:37:32 PM

Ok full build

Optical
DVD Burner LG $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Blue Ray Drive $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cheaper to do it this way then to get a blue ray reader burner combo drive.

Case
HAF 922 $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You're gonna need a huge case with good airflow. This'll be it.

Mouse
MX518 $38.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Media Reader
Logisys $10.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wireless Card
Encore $12.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

not sure why you need one, but this will work for a basic home setup. If you're looking to grab internet from the ether, well can't legally help you there sorry! But this card isn't ideal for that.

HD
2x spinpoint F3 1TB $179.98 for 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That'll be enough space for now. Can always add more later.

SSD
OCZ Vertex 120 GB $389.00 w/ $50 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
Corsair 750 TX $114.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
G Skill Ripjaw DDR3 1600 7-8-7-24 $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO
Asus USB 3.0 SATA 6.0$159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Um oddly enough you won't need to xfire w/ that 5970, s a good MOBO with 1 PCIE x16 slot is all you need. I guess you could get the one Mad linked with 2x PCIE x8 xfire lanes, but xfiring 5970's is stupidly excessive.

GPU
5970 $649.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU/HSF
i5-750 and CM Hyper 212 Plus $221.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Hyper threading is useless for gaming. You don't need x58 since you're getting a 5970. Never gonna need to xfire those anyway. Yea, P55 is ideal for you.

No need for anything above a i5-750 or i7-920 as you can easily overclock both to perform better than the $1000 CPU's Intel sells.

Total: $2084.86 before $60 MIR and shipping.

If you need a monitor grab
21.5" Hanns G 1920x1080 $149.99

Will put the total at $2193.83 after MIR and shipping to NYC


You may wanna consider going with an Intel 80gb X25-M instead. That'll give you enough money to get a really nice monitor like this 24" 1920x1200 Samsung
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 21, 2010 3:48:03 PM

I agree with banthracis about the XFired 5970s being stupid, but you never know with future games...
January 21, 2010 3:50:46 PM

I review it and check this (the price range is bad the real is 2800-3200 =) sorry):
-PSU Corsair 850HX $170
-Case HAF 932 $175
-CPU Intel® Core™ i7 960 (3.2GHz, 8MB Cache) $590
- Graphics Card SAPPHIRE HD5970 2GB GDDR5 PCIE (OC Edition) $650
- Motherboard Asus P6X58D Premium $310
-Memory 12GB Triple-channel Corsair Dominator: 6 x 2048MB DDR3 1800Mhz $380
-2TB Sata II 32mb cache $180
-Blu-ray reader and cd/dvd burner $120
Total $2655, guys this is a good setup???? help me!!!!
PD: On the future i would like croosfireX the 5970 and update the pc
January 21, 2010 3:53:36 PM

-No on the I7 960 its a waste of money just get the 920 and overclock it
-No to the 1800mhz dominator you wont need more than a good set of 1600mhz DDR3 like the mushkin redline enhanced CAS 6-7-6 DDR3
- You dont need more than 6gb of RAM with your usages
With those adjustments you'll save some money for future upgrades :) 
January 21, 2010 4:01:26 PM

The price of the memory its for 1600Mhz not 1800Mhz i forgot to change that
January 21, 2010 4:04:40 PM

Oh k but yah I strongly recomend only 6gb you'll save money and there is bassically no performance increase in games by having 12gb because most games dont even barely start to scratch at using 6gb. Have fun with your build man she should be a beast.
January 21, 2010 4:32:24 PM

Well on the idea of xfire 5970's, all major gaming companies are making games for 360/PS3 hardware, 3 generations behind. This isn't gonna change till next gen consoles come, 2014 at the earliest. Heck, even Crysis 2 will run on a 360/PS3.

There is not a single game in existence or development that a 5970 can't run maxed out @1920x1200, simply because no AAA company makes exclusive PC anymore.

The 1 exception, blizzard, makes games that run on 6 yr old hardware.

Now, by the time you'll need something better than a 5970, (you have my guarantee it won't be till 2012 at the earliest), we'll be 2 generations into the future w/ GPU's and will be getting ready for w/e the architecture after Sandy bridge is called. You'll be lucky if you can find a 5970 for sale then.
January 21, 2010 4:34:58 PM

Actually, I'm worried about what GPU companies are gonna do for the next few years. Anything above the 5970 is pointless except for eyefinity + massive resolutions or 3D, and those are even more niche markets than even the 5970's.
January 21, 2010 4:48:17 PM

Resolutions can always go up. So take the resolution Eyefinity gives you at 3 monitors at 1900x, and then use Eyefinity on that.

I think 3D is what's next. Remember, they used to say that HD was a niche market...
January 21, 2010 5:11:53 PM

Yea, but what I meant was that game wise, we aren't gonna go up above 1020p because, well consoles aren't going higher than that till next generation. You can blow up games all you want with eyefinity, but stuff starts to look pretty crappy real fast. There are a few games that can render to w/e resolution (like wow), but those are very few.

Basically, till consoles catch up, mainstream gaming companies won't program for high res or 3d, simply because it's not worth it in cost/return.

HD took off because companies finally built consoles to support it. It'll be the same for 3D if the next gen consoles support it.
January 24, 2010 8:17:49 PM

This was the build for i decided i will buy it next friday guys tell me if i should change anything
-Case CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full Tower Gaming Case-Black
-iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction Advanced - iBUYPOWER Harmony SRS Sound Reduction System-
-iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion [6-Port] NZXT Internal USB Expansion System + Bluetooth Module-
-Case Lighting Cold Cathode Neon Light-Blue
-Processor Intel® Core™ i7 960 Processor (4x 3.20GHz/8MB L3 Cache)-
-iBUYPOWER PowerDrive PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking-
-Processor Cooling CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooling Fan System-
-Memory 12 GB [2 GB X6] DDR3-1600 Triple Memory Module-Corsair Dominator
-Video Card ATI Radeon HD 5970 - 2GB-Single Card
Video Card Brand Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA-
-Motherboard ASUS P6X58D Premium -- Intel X58 Chipset CrossFire and SLI Supported w/8-ch HD Audio, Triple-Channel DDR3, 2 Gb Lan, 3 PCI-E MB-
-Power Supply 850 Watt -- Coolermaster Real Power Pro 850w Power Supply-SLI Ready
-Primary Hard Drive 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s-Single Drive
-Optical Drive 22X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive-[Lightscribe Technology] Black
-Flash Media Reader/Writer 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer-Black
-Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....)-64-Bit
-Keyboard Combo: Multi-Media/Internet Keyboard + Optical Internet Mouse-Black
-Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical Intelli-Mouse Explore -Silver
-Monitor 24" Widescreen LCD 1920x1080 Sceptre X246W-1080P-Built-in Speaker, DVI & HDMI Input
-Wireless Network Adapter Zonet ZEW2545 802.11n 130Mbps Wireless USB Adapter-
-Power Protection Opti-UPS SS1200-AVR Mighty Voltage Regulator + Network 10/100/1000 LAN Surge Protector-
Total $3327
January 24, 2010 10:45:26 PM

Me thinks he totally ignored every post we've made...
January 24, 2010 10:50:36 PM

The i7-960 is overkill. You absolutely don't need more than the 920.

12 GB of RAM is way overkill as well. 6 GB isn't needed for gaming, but is about as low as you should go with the LGA 1366 socket.

Coolermaster is not a quality PSU manufacturer. I highly suggest you stick to Antec Earthwatts, OCZ, Corsair, Seasonic, PC Power & Cooling or FSP.

2 TB single drives aren't very reliable yet. It would be cheaper and better to get two 1 TB drives.

Besides that, you really shouldn't buy it from a builder. High end systems are where you start getting really screwed on the price. For example, excluding the monitor, the price for the tower would be about $2,000 if you built it yourself. You're wasting about $1,000 by getting it from IBuyPower.
January 24, 2010 10:55:24 PM

@banthracis: Yeah, he completely ignored everything.

Here's an example of what you should buy, and how much it would cost from Newegg:

CPU: i7-920 $289
Mobo: Asus P6X58D Premium $310
RAM: G.Skill PI Series 3x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $180
HDD: 2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB $180
GPU: HD 5970 $650
Case: HAF 922 $100
Cooling: Coolermaster Hyper 212 $30
PSU: Corsair 850W $130
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD Burner $25
OS: Windows 7 $100

Total $1,994.
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