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First system build - $750 Budget

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January 22, 2010 2:50:29 AM

Greetings all - As the title states, this is my first time buying a PC. I've spent the past few days reading about the process and hunting for bargain prices to complete my quasi-gaming machine. I was wondering if 1.) the pieces I have put together will operate properly/efficiently, 2.) If I am missing any required cables, components, etc., 3.) Will this system need more cooling?

Item List:

1 x ($47.99) HD 320G|WD 7K 8M SATA2 WD3200AAJS % - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($99.99) MEM 2Gx2|CRUC BL2KIT25664TB1337 R - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($6.99) CPU THERMPASTE|AS5-3.5G % - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($1.99) CABLE OKGEAR|GC18ABM SATA RTL - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($124.99) VGA SAPPHIRE | 100258-1GHDMI HD4850 - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($27.99) DVD BURN SONY|AD-7240S-0B % - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($112.99) CPU AMD|ATH II X4 630 AM3 RT - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($79.99) CASE ANTEC| SIX HUNDRED RT - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($84.99) PSU OCZ|OCZ700SXS 700W RT - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($99.99) MB ASUS|M4A785TD-V EVO 785G RT - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1 x ($104.99) WIN HOME PREM 7 64-BIT ENG 1PK DSP - OEM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am also curious about the OEM items. As I understand now, I wouldn't be able to replace my motherboard if I install the Windows 7 OEM, but would I be able to replace other items, like adding more ram, new video cards, etc. I appreciate the help in advance, and I look forward to posting pics once the rig is complete! (Also, before I forget - I have a monitor, speakers, mouse, and keyboard)


January 22, 2010 2:58:24 AM

OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. In other words it's not going through a 3rd party for repackaging. You don't normally get shiny boxes, or the little extra add-ins, normally they ship with just nominal software.

That being said it's no different than non-OEM parts, just cheaper. Warranties still apply, it doesn't change RMA procedures.

Short of taking a blowtorch to it, you can normally always RMA a motherboard. If by replace you mean upgrade, then your OS has nothing to do with it. That's not to say that by the time you get ready to upgrade again the other parts will still be compatible.

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Duh.. you're worried about Windows DRM (or whatever it's considered) policy... hmm let's see. Good question. I honestly have no idea and couldn't quickly and easily find it via google. Dunno honestly...

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Ok... after a little looking around (a little mind you) I did come across this:

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/3856-upgrading-motherboard-windows-7-a-3.html

There were mixed resuls, some people ran into problems after swapping mobos, others didn't have a problem at all. Even those that did have issues could do a fresh install just fine. So worst case scenerio is wiping hd, swapping mobo, reinstalling from scratch.
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January 22, 2010 1:34:50 PM

Much thanks, I don't anticipate changing the CPU or Motherboard anytime soon, so I should be okay for now. Did you happen to notice if I was missing any components, like a CPU cooling unit? more fans for the tower? Am I missing any cables?

Thanks again!
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January 22, 2010 2:02:38 PM

If you don't plan on overclocking you don't need an aftermarket HSF, the stock cooler will be fine. All the cables you need should be shipped with the motherboard. Looks like you've done your homework here. Good luck and have fun!
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January 22, 2010 2:32:30 PM

Thanks for the prompt response! I've looked into overclocking, and will probably juice the system up a bit once everything appears to be working. Down the road I'll be looking into a HSF and upping the RAM to 8gb total; for now though, I just planned on seeing how the default set-up runs.
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January 22, 2010 2:42:58 PM

One thing I forgot to mention. The stock HSF will have thermal paste already attached to the HSF, so you won't need that thermal paste until you get an aftermarket HSF.
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January 22, 2010 2:48:39 PM

If your planning on Over clocking spend the 30 bucks on the HSF now instead of having to take everything out of your case later to get the cooler in. I just think it makes more sense to put the cooler on durring the initial build.

Also might want to get this HD rather then the WD. This one is faster then the WD. Also the Samsung F3 500 Gig is only 10 dollars more and is even a better Drive then the Seagate.

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3320418AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
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January 22, 2010 2:56:41 PM

You don't want to use that old, slow hard drive. You can get a much faster Samsung F3 500GB drive for only a few dollars more.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $54.99

What resolution does your monitor run at? What games are you planning on playing? The 4850 isn't really a great option. Your motherboard doesn't support Crossfire, so you don't need anywhere near a 700W PSU. Here's a combo deal for a modular 600W PSU and the HD I suggested above:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $109.98 - $25 MIR

Like was mentioned above, you don't need the thermal paste or SATA cables. I highly suggest taking the money saved by the above suggestions and putting it into at least a 5770.

XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 1GB $164.99
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January 22, 2010 3:30:29 PM

Thanks for the advice. My monitor is this: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/pr... ... and has a max resolution of 1920 x 1080. I mostly play everquest 2, but will likely play Mass Effect 2. I got the 700w PSU because it came combo'd with another component I needed with a $25 MIR, $30 combo savings, and an instant $15 off. Is too much power a bad thing?

As far as the HD, I just purchased the Samsung 500gb and plan on returning the WD one once it arrives -- much thanks. The video card is also easily returned, but I was really hoping to keep it in the $130 range. I'm not opposed to returning it, but I assumed it would be more than enough to run eq2 at top end graphics and a high frame rate. If I am wrong, or if there are significantly better options for under $150, I would be more than thankful for additional advice.
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January 22, 2010 6:44:37 PM

New Question: I just added 4 more gigs of ram and now plan to overclock the motherboard -- My CPU has a heatsink and fan included, will I still have room for another? If so, how do I know which would work best with my CPU/MOBO?
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January 22, 2010 6:50:11 PM

Ok Are you saying you have a total of 4 Gigs of ram or a total of 8 gigs? Total of 4 gigs is plenty.


As far as over clocking goes The Stock HSF probably wont be sufficient From what I have read so far this is probably the best Cooler (BASED on PRICE) that you can get.

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
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January 22, 2010 6:51:36 PM

Typically adding additional ram only causes more headaches. For gaming it'll have 0 benefit. If you do enterprise work (rdbms, video editing, rendering, compiling ect) it can have benefits, otherwise not only are you spending money that could be saved, but you're asking for complications in overclocking and general stability.

You replace the stock hsf with the aftermarket one.
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January 22, 2010 7:07:31 PM

osu43130 said:
Ok Are you saying you have a total of 4 Gigs of ram or a total of 8 gigs? Total of 4 gigs is plenty.


As far as over clocking goes The Stock HSF probably wont be sufficient From what I have read so far this is probably the best Cooler (BASED on PRICE) that you can get.

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212


Much thanks! I will return the extra 4gb of ram, and gladly take $100 of the tab. As far as the HSF goes, I picked up this unit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ... and now plan on spending the next few hours learning how I am actually going to solve this puzzle when it arrives :wahoo: 
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