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ATi 4870 / 5770

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January 16, 2010 8:14:35 AM

Hello guys,

I need your opinion..

I want to build a PC and I have chosen like all the components I need now to pick the VIDEO CARD.

Ok guys,

I need to get a nice video card in a 250$ price range and also I want it to be made by MSI.

I have checked out the Radeon HD 5770.

RAMDAC (MHz): 400
Processor frequency (MHz):850
Memory(MB):1024
Memory Type:GDDR5
BUS memory (bytes):128
Memory Frequency (MHz):4800
DirectX Support (version) : 11
OpenGL Support (version) : 3.2


And the Radeon HD 4870.


RAMDAC (MHz):400
Pixel Shader:4.1
Processor Frequency (MHz):750
Memory (MB):1024
Memory Type:GDDR5
Bytes:256
Memory Frequency (MHz):3600
DirectX :10
OpenGL :2.1


Both of them in my country are like 230$.
I want to ask you guys is it better to spend my moneys on BYTES ? or on the DirectX 11.00 ?

I know it should be DX11 and Bytes but ... I can't afford that ... I have already crossed the line with the budget and I dont want to cross it even more :|

Waiting your replies


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a b U Graphics card
January 16, 2010 8:43:24 AM

go for a 5770...Although a 4870 performs a little better than 5770 but the dx11 capabilities on its side certainly makes 5770 a smarter choice...
January 16, 2010 8:44:07 AM

I just switched from two Radeon HD 4870 1gb cards to two Radeon HD 5770's, and I prefer the newer 5770's. More power effecient, and perform about the same and sometimes better than the 4870's. Plus someday if you decide to go with Crossfire and throw another in, the 5xxx series cards scale better.
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January 16, 2010 8:51:04 AM

sayantan said:
go for a 5770...Although a 4870 performs a little better than 5770 but the dx11 capabilities on its side certainly makes 5770 a smarter choice...




http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html



look at this benchmarking list... it seems 4870 > 5770

also i need to tell u i have the RAM Memory clocked at 1800, 2gb in dual channel
a b U Graphics card
January 16, 2010 9:22:05 AM

Vlad_2 said:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html



look at this benchmarking list... it seems 4870 > 5770

also i need to tell u i have the RAM Memory clocked at 1800, 2gb in dual channel


I know 4870 performs better than 5770 but in game difference are not so high as with those synthetic benchmarks...
http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/p...
So in majority of games 5770 is at par with 4870....It also beats 5770 in quite number of games....

January 16, 2010 9:29:44 AM

sayantan said:
I know 4870 performs better than 5770 but in game difference are not so high as with those synthetic benchmarks...
http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/p...
So in majority of games 5770 is at par with 4870....It also beats 5770 in quite number of games....



in that benchmarking the 4870 it has 512 MB... I'm talking about the one with 1GB :bounce: 
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January 16, 2010 12:56:25 PM

Those BEnches were also run with the first drivers released for the 5xxx series and there is already a new driver out that improves the performance of the 5770 and more driver issues will be fixed as the cards are out for awhile (remember most card drivers when the cards are released do not perform that well) so the difference is already less than it was and since the 4870 has reached its end of Life cycle it is going to be hard to find them in awhile so if you do ever decide to go crossfire it will be more expensive for older tech. (as cards become hard to find they increase a bit in price while the newer 5770 will be dropping in price at the same time !!) - Also within a few years DX11 will become the standard and many games will no longer play on older DX10 cards so you will wind up having to buy again to be able to play the newest games.

IF you look at the release notes for the newest driver it mentions :

"The following performance gains are noticed with this release of catalyst 9.12:

3dMark Vantage - overall performance improves as much as 9% on ATI RadeonHD 5800 and Radeon HD 5700 series products. GT1 - Jane Nash performance improves as much as 15% and FT4 - GPU cloth improves up to 15% "
a b U Graphics card
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January 16, 2010 4:32:55 PM

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HD 4870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... THATS WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU NEED!!! Trust me! It is... HD 5770 is just an overrated piece of garbage.


don't listen to him he has been spouting crap all over this forum for a while now

like JDFan said those benches were done with older drivers, the 5770 is probably at 4870 levels now
keep in mind the power efficiency is better than the 4870 and supports dx11 for future games
a b U Graphics card
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January 16, 2010 4:40:59 PM

Quote:
HD 4870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... THATS WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU NEED!!! Trust me! It is... HD 5770 is just an overrated piece of garbage.


This from a guy that buys a new system and doesn't want to spend more than $20 on a PSU to run the thing and wonders why he is having troubles !!
a b U Graphics card
January 16, 2010 4:43:21 PM

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The 5770 is faster than the 4870, do not anyone tell you different.

The 4870 ranges from being equal to a 5770 in some games to being up to 10% faster than the 5770.
January 16, 2010 10:19:42 PM

Guys I think I have decided to get a 4890 sorry for getting you in to fog but I rly think 4890 > 4870 > 5770

:bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 
a b U Graphics card
January 17, 2010 5:03:20 AM

nice choice!!!!performance wise 4890 is much better than 5770.....also dont forget that you just lost dx11 support....
January 17, 2010 5:24:10 AM

The 4870 isn't worth buying when the price difference between that and the 4890 is a very small margin. The 4890 destroys almost every game at full settings.
January 17, 2010 5:44:58 AM

5770 - has more overclocking headroom.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 17, 2010 7:29:00 AM

What is the native resolution of your monitor, what cpu is in your system and what are the specifications of your power supply?
These are all more important questions as to what card you should buy than a pure performance comparison.
January 17, 2010 11:29:19 AM

Guys : i overclocked my dad's wallet and I will have the FULL 5850HD :)  THanks for your time offered here
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 17, 2010 7:08:40 PM

Yeah, 4 gigs of ram and a better brand of PSU.
Also are you really spending almost as much on a cooler as your CPU? That's just... odd. Get an Athlon II x4. Cheaping out on the CPU while spending that much on a video card and a motherboard with 4 PCIx16 slots makes no sense at all. If you insist on MSI the 790X-G45 should be much more reasonably priced.
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