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March 29, 2010 2:14:56 AM

hai everybody,
i want to ask everybody wthat advantage using 6 core AMD for gaming and intel i7.

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March 29, 2010 2:16:23 AM

Don't know yet. I'm content with my 965BE until I see some actual tests with the 1090T
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March 29, 2010 2:25:05 AM

Advantage. "Price", other then that it is a disadvantage in performance.
March 29, 2010 2:39:39 AM

yes maybe the price is the major problem people who dont have deep pocket...can u tell me the performance ?
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March 29, 2010 2:47:04 AM

mezal1981 said:
yes maybe the price is the major problem people who dont have deep pocket...can u tell me the performance ?

Have you read the 980X review on Anandtech? I wouldn't expect the 6-core AMD to be faster, but it probably will be less expensive. If you have deep pockets, go for the 980X.
March 29, 2010 3:03:30 AM

thank for your answer.......one thing can i oc the 6 core AMD
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March 29, 2010 3:19:14 AM

For gaming? Neither. Save your money for something that will provide benefit. Unless you're planning to play FSX that is.
March 29, 2010 3:37:23 AM

so for gaming it would help a bit better i just select the i7 or i5, one more thing can u give me suggestion about the best cpu of AMD for gaming, i likely want to swicth to AMD platform
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March 29, 2010 3:58:17 AM

What is your budget? I also think you should consider a video card upgrade. You'll get more benefit from that than a new CPU.
March 29, 2010 4:09:47 AM

3000-4000, if i use ATI gpu will it benifit for me,
March 29, 2010 5:21:06 AM

get a 965 be and crossfire ati 5870, if you want amd all the way =)
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March 29, 2010 6:25:46 AM

Don't even consider the X6 for a strickly gaming rig unless you want to waste money to brag about having more cores. The 2 extra cores won't help in gaming, look at the gulftown reviews, that should prove how uselss the addition cores are. Or you could look at I5 vs I7 8XX series, the additional threads there offer no performance gains with games. Spend the extra $100 you save on a better video card.
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March 29, 2010 7:20:14 AM

6 cores is not even worth looking at most games barely can use four cores yet most only use 2.

If you looking to build a sick gaming rig and you want to spend 3000-4000 and want the best you can get then you want an I7 rig. Get an I7 950 or if your handy at overclocking just get the 920 and overclock it. And go from there a good crossfire motherboard a couple HD 5870's and you will be on the best gaming rig you can get. If you looking to spend a little less then an AMD Phenom II 965BE would be your choice instead either route you go with the processor you will be set for gaming for a few years.
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March 29, 2010 7:29:57 AM

What games do you intend to play?
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March 29, 2010 4:59:57 PM

mezal1981 said:
3000-4000, if i use ATI gpu will it benifit for me,

Is that USD?
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March 29, 2010 8:55:07 PM

mezal1981 said:
thank for your answer.......one thing can i oc the 6 core AMD

Probably, but it's difficult to test a CPU that isn't available. If you're looking for maximum performance and the cost is not important, then why would you go with an AMD solution?
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March 29, 2010 10:50:02 PM

The 6-core AMD CPUs have not been officially launched yet. So far though, it looks like their will be a black edition and the cores will be tweaked to offer a little more performance per core compared to the cores in current Phenom IIs. Even so, the extra two cores themselves will generally not help in gaming and that likely won't change for a while. After all, it took some time before games demonstrated a significant benefit with 4 cores as opposed to just two. For a gaming rig, overclocking a Phenom II 955 or 965 (C3 versions of course) is a better option. If you can budget for more then you may want to start looking at a decent X58 board and an Intel i7 920 to overclock.
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March 29, 2010 10:54:06 PM

Why would anybody buy an i7 920 now with Thuban 2-3 weeks from release?

Thuban will be faster in most things, and will cost less, and will have a good upgrade option.
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March 30, 2010 1:28:36 AM

I would not buy a 920 now or before. It's simply out the range I like to spend to build a machine.

Thuban will be faster in most things? What are most things now jenny? Programs that are going to fully load 6 cores? I think thubans turbo will help it improve its performance more for "most things" than the actual two extra cores.
March 30, 2010 4:21:08 AM

my bugget about 2000-3000 usd ,the game i want to plys is crysis warhead ultra setting,and mayn more modern games.and also adobe cs4.
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March 30, 2010 8:50:21 AM

Crysis will run fine on just about any modern CPU as long as you have a dual core, it really needs a beefy video card though. There are a few games that need more CPU power, such as Microsoft Flight Simulator X and GTA IV (I think?), but if you're not playing those then you don't need to aim for a high end quad or anything. If you do a fair amount of photoshop with very large PSDs and CPU-intensive filters you might want to go for a quad though. But I'd be looking at making sure you have plenty of RAM first, because PS will chew that up faster than it will CPU time.

I wouldn't bother going with an i7, stick with an i5 or Phenom II X4 955/965. Of course if you aren't interested in saving money then by all means go for something more powerful (not really worth it), but avoid the i7 980X unless you really just want to burn up cash because it simply won't benefit you in the slightest over CPUs that are a fraction of the price.

I have an i7 920, but if it wasn't for the fact that I do rendering I would not have a use for a CPU with this amount of processing power (I also got it half price :) )
March 31, 2010 11:57:23 AM

can u give me opinion about buying on the net is the best or my local store,same people say it will be good buying in the net . another thing is some people say many games are not yet using quad core rather than dual core.and can u tell me what benefit i choose quad core when some application only need low requirement.
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March 31, 2010 12:05:21 PM

The majority of existing games will show little benefit moving from a dual core to a quad. A few of the more recent ones will show some benefit, and a small handful will take whatever processing power you can throw at them. Other non-gaming software that you run may be able to use that extra processing power though. I can't be sure without knowing exactly what you do.

As for online vs in-store purchasing: I prefer online and most people do for the convenience, but occasionally the brick-and-mortar stores have good deals. Microcenter (if you live in the US and near one of their stores) seem to have good prices on Core i7 quite often.
March 31, 2010 12:14:29 PM

the new 6 core phenoms are being re fesigned from the ground up, maybe we will see a core i7 killer?
March 31, 2010 1:35:28 PM

the program i mention before like sc4,autocad, video converter .....i hope with 6 core i can get the benefit from it.
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March 31, 2010 1:53:32 PM

lashton said:
the new 6 core phenoms are being re fesigned from the ground up, maybe we will see a core i7 killer?
After reading about the new 12 core Opterons, I wouldn't expect the new AMD 6 core desktop CPU to be faster than an Intel i7-980X, but its performance might be close to it at a lower cost. Unlike servers where the CPU cost is not that important, cost often is a decision factor for desktops.
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March 31, 2010 4:01:18 PM

They won't be faster than the i7 980X, but they will be faster than the i7 920 and 930 *for sure* and there is a good chance the top binned 1090T at $300 will beat the 3x more expensive i7 975 EE.
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March 31, 2010 4:19:42 PM

If the 1090T sells for $300, then Intel will quickly drop the price of the i7-975 EE to stay competitive. This is good news as the i7-930 will have to cost less as well, etc. On the other hand, I'm not sure that a price war with Intel is good for AMD, but it sure is good for customers in the short term.
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March 31, 2010 7:12:44 PM

Aren't we talking about games?

Thuban isn't going to help much in gaming compared to Phenom II x4. I7 quad is going to be the winner there. At least until games become more multi-core optimized.
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March 31, 2010 8:19:20 PM

With 2-3k to spend you can build a very powerful rig. I would go with a PII 965, a good AM3 motherboard, 4-8gb of DDR3, a pair of HD 5870, and a good cooling system. You could also get 2 HD 5970 but I don’t think you need all that (I don’t think anyone needs all that) and it would cost half your max budget. If you think you need a better chip after a few weeks, grab a Thuban when they come out.
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March 31, 2010 9:30:21 PM

860 + 5890 xfire + 4 gigs of ram + SSD. Done deal. Avoid the 920 for gaming.
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March 31, 2010 11:17:29 PM

werxen said:
860 + 5890 xfire + 4 gigs of ram + SSD. Done deal. Avoid the 920 for gaming.


Avoid the 920 for gaming?
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March 31, 2010 11:22:15 PM

Pro Llama said:
With 2-3k to spend you can build a very powerful rig. I would go with a PII 965, a good AM3 motherboard, 4-8gb of DDR3, a pair of HD 5870, and a good cooling system. You could also get 2 HD 5970 but I don’t think you need all that (I don’t think anyone needs all that) and it would cost half your max budget. If you think you need a better chip after a few weeks, grab a Thuban when they come out.


Phenom II is going to bottleneck 5870 crossfire, even at 4ghz. (Unless you play at 30" resolution of 26x15) :/ 
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March 31, 2010 11:56:49 PM

Raidur said:
Phenom II is going to bottleneck 5870 crossfire, even at 4ghz. (Unless you play at 30" resolution of 26x15) :/ 


Or three 1080p monitors with eyefinity :D 
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April 1, 2010 12:12:16 AM

megamanx00 said:
Or three 1080p monitors with eyefinity :D 


Ah yes, or eyefinity. :) 
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April 1, 2010 12:49:47 AM

Raidur said:
Avoid the 920 for gaming?


Yeah. Won't get any performance increase with 16x pc lanes. Hyperthreading sometimes hurts FPS. 1156 socket is cheaper, runs cooler, lighter on power and best of all you will not notice a difference between the two. The 920, however, comes with an amazing deal: your soul for the next upgrade.
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April 1, 2010 1:01:33 AM

jennyh said:
They won't be faster than the i7 980X, but they will be faster than the i7 920 and 930 *for sure* and there is a good chance the top binned 1090T at $300 will beat the 3x more expensive i7 975 EE.


PROOF that jennyh has lost her mind.
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April 1, 2010 1:16:54 AM

werxen said:
Yeah. Won't get any performance increase with 16x pc lanes. Hyperthreading sometimes hurts FPS. 1156 socket is cheaper, runs cooler, lighter on power and best of all you will not notice a difference between the two. The 920, however, comes with an amazing deal: your soul for the next upgrade.


16x will make at least a 5% difference and the 860 has hyper threading. You'd be silly not to go 1366 with that kind of budget. Especially with the 930 out.
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April 1, 2010 1:17:09 AM

lashton said:
the new 6 core phenoms are being re fesigned from the ground up, maybe we will see a core i7 killer?


No they're not, it's the same base architecture just more cores and a couple minor tweaks. Clock for clock performance wont' go up much if any over Phenom II X4 on a "per core" basis.
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April 1, 2010 1:53:44 AM

loneninja said:
No they're not, it's the same base architecture just more cores and a couple minor tweaks. Clock for clock performance wont' go up much if any over Phenom II X4 on a "per core" basis.


What people fail to realize, with the lower clock speeds they are really gonna suck N*ts!!
April 1, 2010 3:46:13 AM

yeh! but right now my point pin like to choose the AMD platform,not intel,yes, is true the I7 core realy on the top of the maoutain.becouse im using the ATI gpu and i like to squeze the AMD chipset.....to the limits......i know about intel,im intel user the performance 5 star i can give.but right now i like to swicth to AMD the intel i like to use as server and AMD as game rig....
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April 1, 2010 4:15:40 AM

mezal1981 said:
yeh! but right now my point pin like to choose the AMD platform,not intel,yes, is true the I7 core realy on the top of the maoutain.becouse im using the ATI gpu and i like to squeze the AMD chipset.....to the limits......i know about intel,im intel user the performance 5 star i can give.but right now i like to swicth to AMD the intel i like to use as server and AMD as game rig....


The point is, a $160 Phenom II X4 955 will get you just as far as a Phenom II X6 will in gaming when clocked the same.
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April 1, 2010 4:17:24 AM

BadTrip said:
What people fail to realize, with the lower clock speeds they are really gonna suck N*ts!!


I doubt that since they have turbo, even the 2.8Ghz Phenom II X6 scales up to 3.3Ghz which will match all but the 965 in single threaded situations. I just wonder if they'll be capable of 4.0Ghz overclocks, but the real point is single threaded performance won't be up over current Phenom II X4.
April 2, 2010 2:01:34 AM


(I doubt that since they have turbo, even the 2.8Ghz Phenom II X6 scales up to 3.3Ghz which will match all but the 965 in single threaded situations.)



maybe, but right now we wait and see,how far the 6 core in the real world. every can say until the 6 core out on the market. but i wonder in the future maybe the 6 core can be minimum requement for computer.....
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April 5, 2010 2:03:25 PM

Raidur said:
Phenom II is going to bottleneck 5870 crossfire, even at 4ghz. (Unless you play at 30" resolution of 26x15) :/ 


I don’t know where you get this bs from. Look back to the i5 vs 965 posts; there is plenty of information post to disprove your statement. Unless you actually have any information to support yourself stop reposting the same thing in every thread about crossfire; repeated post of a lie doesn’t make it true.
June 1, 2010 6:05:52 AM

mezal1981 said:
3000-4000, if i use ATI gpu will it benifit for me,

if you honestly have 2000-3000 spending amount you could practically get anything with Intel the i7's are going to cost you a pretty penny especially if you go over the 930(2.8 ghz), not to mention the cost of a good motherboard. but even at its highest an i7 960 wouldn't even scar you much especially if you combo up on things. However do not forget the accessories your going to need while doing this, a real good monitor that can keep up with the speed of the crossfire 5870"s(if you choose to go with these), Good Memory(which if you have that much money, I would go with 1600 AT least), and get good hdd's too, thats a part alot of people tend to forget, when they say just go with a tb and your good, personally I would go with a tb@7200 rpm(gb/s depends on what your mother boards has) and then get a 160 gb intel ssd, its 550(more or less) but you will notice a load of difference on boot times. Also a very very VERY good case, check your mobo size, and make sure everything will fit, and always check the specs from the manufacturer.
All said from that I hope you enjoy your new system
June 6, 2010 11:04:10 AM

men get 3 screens while your at it with that price and a g19, etc etc lol jk but crysis aint that demanding, i5 750 will do, and 5870 or 5890
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June 6, 2010 2:54:50 PM

BadTrip said:
PROOF that jennyh has lost her mind.


Since somebody already revived this thread :p : http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=99

The 1090T beats the i7-975 in exactly one benchmark - lower power consumption fully loaded. It loses in every other bench, bar none, at stock speeds. Sometimes as much as by 30 - 40%. In fact, it seems most comparable to the i7-920, winning in the heavily threaded benches but losing in the 3dsmax benches.

Haven't seen her post here in well over a month now - she get perma-banned or something? Or just give up on prosetilyzing the great unwashed masses here on THG?? :p 
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